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Canada Does Not Want to be a 51st State

To all Americans, I have never met or heard of any Canadian wanting to be American.
Trump is beginning a campaign of lies to undermine Canadian sovereignty. We are not the Rhineland or Austria.
calicuz · 56-60, M
We know, and we also know he's just talking out of the side of his neck again. He successfully insulted everyone in America, including MAGA, and he was still voted into office. He can't invade Poland like Hitler did, so he's decided to Invade Canada with insults intead, because that's the best he can do. 😅
calicuz · 56-60, M
@uikakarotuevegeta

I am the working class. 🙄
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@uikakarotuevegeta Arent you people just tired of blaming MSN? That lame excuse is over
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@uikakarotuevegeta Or a sock puppet for non news like Russian propoganda or conspiracy theory sites . Grow up
Sevendays · M
Canadian pride is strong
I don't take anything he says seriously
Jenny1234 · 51-55, F
@pripyatamusementpark you know Trump is never gonna realize you even exist right
@uikakarotuevegeta I certainly hope he doesn't. I will pretend he doesn't exist for the next 4 years .
Nor should they want to. There are so many ways in which they’re doing better than the U.S. (better healthcare, less gun violence just to name a couple). We should be trying to emulate you.

Reminds me of when Trump was saying only people from countries like Norway should be allowed to emigrate here—why would anyone lucky enough to live in Norway want to come here ? 😳
LunarOrbit · 56-60, M
@bijouxbroussard We don’t pay anything…but its not free. We are taxed heavily.

The money has to come from somewhere right? On average, the cost of healthcare is $5,000 per person per year. If the average person lives to be 80 yrs old…thats $400,000 every canadian will pay in taxes for healthcare thru their lifetime. (Today’s dollars).

How much does the average person from your country pay for healthcare?
@LunarOrbit Depends on the state, but I’ve seen quotes of $9615 annually for young adults, up $25,000 for seniors per person. And btw, this is with coverage, so it depends on the plan now.

I personally have paid $5,000 in a year because of the $2500 deductible that I had to exhaust first on one plan. I saw a bill for a hospital stay that was necessary to save my life in 2008; it was $350,000 but with healthcare coverage I only paid $2,000. People without coverage go to the Emergency Room, they are often turned away or sent to hospitals that serve the indigent.

A National healthcare service would save so many lives here, but some people dismiss it as "socialist". Even the ACA, which allowed many people in my state to afford healthcare coverage for the first time, was disabled because the subsequent administration disliked the president who had signed it into being more than they cared about the health of the American people.

Your system may not work perfectly but you’re the first Canadian I’ve seen who dislikes it. Here, "your money or your life" is real.
LunarOrbit · 56-60, M
@bijouxbroussard I guess neither system is perfect. Personally Im just frustrated cause I cant see a doctor for months. Thats why I dont like our system. It only works in the big cities where the doctors want to live and work
JustNik · 51-55, F
I did see an interesting perspective explored yesterday that part of the impetus for this particular embarrassment could be due to the increasing numbers of Americans looking to Canada as a possible escape route. It is consistent with the authoritarian playbook to aim to quell the hope of the people. If we feel we can’t escape him, maybe we’ll accept our fate with more resignation. I don’t think it’s the only contributor, but I imagine his puppeteers would appreciate that side effect. I find it hard to believe you truly need to worry about this (yet), but I understand completely being offended by the unprofessionalism and disrespect. I’m embarrassed for my country. 🫂
CestManan · 46-50, F
@JimboSaturn Canadians are good people, but I do not know why America would want Canada to be one of our states. It is kind of like when we are good friends with a neighbor, that doesn't mean we want to merge properties and lives.

@JustNik With his "Eating cats and dogs" statement, that along with the "your son goes to school a boy and comes home a girl" BS, he is basically talking like a six year old.

For international travel, hopefully it doesn't get outlawed. Eventually some of us would like to visit other nations.

Scary thing, didn't Hitler also want to take over several nations? We see how that went.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@CestManan Whats this about traveling abroad? Did Trump say something about that?
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Granny · 61-69, F
The entire Canadian government celebrated Nazi yaroslav hunka, maybe Canada doesn’t deserve to be an independent nation
@Granny Woah…that was a misstep.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@bijouxbroussard This guys identity was unknown since WWII everwhere een in Ukraine
I can't see the Republicans (whom are currently in control) wanting to add Canada, it would swing everything to be more liberal.

Heck, the Republicans don't even want Puerto Rico to become a state for the same reasons, which ironically it's supposedly the Conservative Republicans in Puerto Rico that have been pushing for the vote to become the 51st state.
Ynotisay · M
@sstronaut You don't think this is actually something serious, do you? It's not.
@Ynotisay No, I don't, as I explained to others in a different post linked below 👇

But these posts seem to be at least semi-serious and I'm a very serious personality (when not on SW), and I'm just simply explain why it wouldn't happen.

https://similarworlds.com/countries/canada/5180269-Isnt-it-unconstitutional-to-make-Canada-the-51st-state?rid=61907254
Adogslife · 61-69, M
I’ve never heard of the US wanting to annex Canada. IF Trump actually said something, he’s a bit of a blowhard. I wouldn’t worry.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@Musicman Of course he did!
DrWatson · 70-79, M
@Musicman He said it directly to Trudeau. You can't blame the "media." Sure, it was meant as a joke. But many of us think it was the kind of joke that is unbecoming of a US President speaking to an ally. Then again, much of the filth spewing out of his mouth is unbecoming of a US President, so what else is new?
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@DrWatson He wanted to but Iceland last year
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Another American.

You might point out to Trump that you still recognize King Charles as sovereign of Canada. 🙃

Yes I know it's powerless yet it's still a fact.

Ask him if wants to take over the UK and Australia as well! 😆
I'm surprised that people still listen to and pay attention to him
swirlie · 31-35, F
@AbsolutelyFabulous
No one actually listens to Trump except those who live here in SW world, but when you turn on the 6 o'clock news and your TV is flooded with Trump propaganda 24/7 for 8 years straight running without ever missing a day, it's pretty hard to not pay attention to the old man with the red tie and orange hair and fat gut who tries to convince the world that he's actually the Leader of the Universe!
@AbsolutelyFabulous Many of us were disappointed by that fact in November. 😳
I agree. Unfortunately Trudeau doesn't seem to have gotten the memo.
Pfuzylogic · M
Contrary to popular belief donnie hardly has a mandate unless he manages to neglect the lives of another 1 million.
Pfuzylogic · M
@CestManan
Fess up!
You just saw this on ebay.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Pfuzylogic Now JUST what is someone going to do with a a $60K penny?🤨
Pfuzylogic · M
@CestManan
You suggested pay for ObamaCare aka Affordable Care Act!
JoyfulSilence · 46-50, M
Trump is not a student of history.

The US tried twice to take Canada by force, in the 1770's and around 1812.

Rejected and ejected!

And even if the English speakers in Canada really wanted to join the US, the Qubecois would declare independence!

antonioioio · 70-79, M
America is a divided country, split down the middle, neatly 50/50 as can see from the election so the rest of the free world needs to band together until America sorts itself
Granny · 61-69, F
@antonioioio haha free world? In Canada you get arrested if you’re a truck driver protesting but if you’re a nazi from the 1940s you get a standing ovation by the entire government
antonioioio · 70-79, M
@Granny you have got that same bug that Putin has got
He says
That all Americans are nazis
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
I stayed in your beautiful country for several years and this is mind boggling to me too...
Yeah, I think this is the least any country ever wanted to be part of America.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Well, then he's just going to turn his attention to Greenland. Then we will see how it feels for him to direct his attention elsewhere.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@swirlie That does seem to fit with a diagnosis of early dementia.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@MarkPaul
The early onset of dementia is slightly different than Attention Deficit Syndrome in it's presentation and subsequent diagnosis. ADS is a mental disorder that one acquires genetically, whereas vascular dementia is a deterioration of the receptors in the brain which transfer information, resembling a broken wire that is short-circuiting and arcing.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@swirlie Yes... the second thing. That's Insurrectionist-Cry-Baby-trump.
Richard65 · M
The UK is already the 51st State, Jimbo. Stay Canadian 👍
Mmiker · 46-50, M
Calm down. Nothing will happen.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@JimboSaturn
😳 ...you didn't eat that plate of dark stuff I left on the kitchen counter, did you?
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You know he was being sarcastic to Trudope right
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
Maifest destiny really does belong in the past.
Pretzel · 61-69, M
And you have way too much class on top of that .
nedkelly · 61-69, M
Why would anyone want Canada 😀
Pfuzylogic · M
@nedkelly You mean Australia isn’t shopping for North American countries?😅
Different · 31-35, M
It was obv a joke bro
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Different Somethings just aren't funny, mate.
DownTheStreet · 56-60, M
I used to be Canadian…

Everything about Trump is posture and part of a bigger game. The tariffs were really about border security and defense spending (your free ride is over).

But yeah I wish he’d stfu about that 51st thing.
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Literally think he says things like that at times just to torque people up a bit. Lol .. mission accomplished!

Honestly .. I know far more Canadians that chose to come to the U.S. and have stayed than the other way around.
Jenny1234 · 51-55, F
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
I remember touring Canada in the 80's and there was an active campaign going on in Alberta to secede and become the 51st state.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@dancingtongue I think they wanted to be their own country like Quebec.
@dancingtongue Well the Alberta separatists exist but they don't want to be Americans either. And the lack of leadership in Ottawa has given them the idea they can create their own border service.
JohnOlinger81 · 41-45, M
im sure some canadians want to be part of America
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@JohnOlinger81 I have never heard of one or met one. Every Canadian is very happy not to be American
@JohnOlinger81 I haven't met one in 42 years. And in fact I have 3 friends who were Americans by birth who decided to become Canadians.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@JohnOlinger81

Some, and only some, want to become American citizens. An average of 50,000 Canadians become US citizens every year, since the turn of the 21st century.
LetsDance · 22-25, F
After several more years of his ruining America even the GOP will support a motion to depose him.
nah you guys joining up we going to share (take) everything

you will like it once you try it
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
You will be the 51st state and you will be happy.
GeorgeTBH · 31-35, M
👀 didn't they already try that in 1812 and failed
HannahSky · F
Of course you don't. We don't want you to either.
🇨🇦
Zonuss · 46-50, M
Good. We dont care. ☺ 🇺🇲
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Zonuss
Number one means 'pee'. You shouldn't speak that way about your homeland, Zonuss. Trump might banish you Canada where wild bush people will hunt you down and eat you for Christmas dinner with cranberry sauce.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@swirlie Dont worry. We have plenty of ammo and other things to. It really is a no brainer.
Noboday said they hated Canada. We just dont get overly emotional about bs like this.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Zonuss
What's this thing you call "ammo"? 🤔 What's that for?
JonnyTesticles · 36-40, M
Is not the USA part of Canada ?
swirlie · 31-35, F
@JonnyTesticles
Yes, our First Nations People call the USA...

"Ma-na-tob-bah", which means "Southern District of The Greatest Whitest Northest" when converted to Canadian English.
swirlie · 31-35, F
We must keep something in mind about Canada. Almost 100% of all wheat that is grown in Canada is sent by ocean freighter to Russia every year, not the USA, which means that despite the war in Ukraine and Canada's Allied relationship with NATO in that region, Canada still maintains Trade relations with Russia every year as a food supplier, which is why Justin Trudeau has got Putin on the speed-dial list of his cellphone.

I should also point out that Canada is the only western Nation who has Landing Rights in Moscow for commercial flights to land which Canada's National Airline has been exercising since 1968 with Russia, not to forget mentioning that Russia's National Airline called 'Aeroflot' lands in Toronto once a week and has since 1968 and the entire crew stays downtown in a Toronto hotel for their 24 hour layover every single week, without armed guards.

That reciprocal landing rights agreement between Canada and Russia has never stopped, though Aeroflot now lands at Montreal's Mirabel International Airport since the war in Ukraine started, to be less visible to passing motorists with it's airplane parked at the gate because Mirabel is located way the hell north of Montreal in the middle of a Quebec lumberjack's bush.

Donald Trump can impose tariffs on Canadian goods entering the USA if he wants to, but I'm here to tell you that the US marketplace is not the only game in town, nor has it ever been.

So, for all of us here who bit*ch from either side of the 49th Parallel, just relax! Trump is pushing 80, yet if he tries to go for a 51st State just for fun, remember that King Charlie would have to agree, the RAF would be put on immediate notice and besides, Putin is still on Justin's speed-dial list if Canada needs a strip club bouncer to get some old, delusional POTUS off our stage! 😂 💃🏼
Ynotisay · M
@swirlie So despite no evidence you're going to stick with your feelings, huh? OK.

This is the breakdown of every country that imports wheat from Canada. Russia is not on the list but don't take my word for it.

Open it, read it and learn. But saying that something is true despite no evidence? I don't get that.

https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/CAN/year/2022/tradeflow/Exports/partner/ALL/product/110100
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Ynotisay
That info you provided was based on data during the global pandemic and everything was shut down globally. If you're going to get stupid on me, then do it right, please?
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tenente · 100+, M
Nature abhors a vacuum. If I was a Canadian right now I would be searching someone, anyone, to lead Canada. Until then, President Trump is filling the void left behind by selfish self centered ego maniac PM Trudeau who has disappeared and his Sec Treasury has resigned DURING AN IMPENDING TRADE WAR WITH USA
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swirlie · 31-35, F
When Trudeau went to Mara Largo for American Thanksgiving, he took his new Minister of Finance with him, Mister LaBlanc and his wife. The cozy photo we've all seen with Trudeau and Trump sitting close together and laughing with each other was a photo taken of the two when apparently Trudeau suggested to Trump that Canada will make the USA it's "Southern Territory" when Canada buys the US for 10 cents on the dollar after the USA goes into Receivership from defaulting on it's $36Trillion National Debt interest payment next month!

You're quite right, Americans have always been fiercely patriotic and take great offense to any criticism or off-handed jokes made about the USA, unlike Canadians who will joke about 25% of our Navy not being battle-ready if 1 of our 4 Frigates in total, are in a Halifax dry dock for some routine maintenance.

Yet there we are with Trump and Trudeau sitting around at Thanksgiving, joking back and forth about the USA annexing Canada ..or Canada buying the USA when it goes up for auction at 10 cents on the dollar in Canadian funds!

We do not know if there was a backroom deal done that evening between Trump and Trudeau, where it was agreed in principle that NO tariffs would be levied against Canada, in exchange for Trump being able to lie to the world that he's charging Canada 25% in tariffs to make himself look like a hero.
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@tenente tell me you don't understand proper context without telling me
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