Ethnicity, race…and music
But one thing I thought of: in the U.S., this is a picture of a white man and a black man. If you don’t know the individuals, would you be able to tell who was who ?
But one thing I thought of: in the U.S., this is a picture of a white man and a black man. If you don’t know the individuals, would you be able to tell who was who ?
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bijouxbroussard · F
@samueltyler2 The creator of the Green Book got the idea from similar guides that existed for Jewish travelers.
@bijouxbroussard Did you see the movie, Bijoux? If you did, do you think it was fair enough or "white people-oriented"? (I haven't seen it yet).
bijouxbroussard · F
@EarthlingWise I haven’t seen it yet, either. But I’ve seen copies of the genuine article, my father had them.
astrosandorbits · 26-30, M
Ive idolized Duke since i was a child. Always wanted to play piano like him. After years of playing and experience, i have an even deeper understanding of what made/makes him so good... and how far away i am from being as good as he is.
Im also biased, tho. Jazz is special to me. Especially the classics. Grew up with it and have been playing jazz many years of my life. If any of you dont know who these two are... it would do you a great deal to learn.
:) cheers
Im also biased, tho. Jazz is special to me. Especially the classics. Grew up with it and have been playing jazz many years of my life. If any of you dont know who these two are... it would do you a great deal to learn.
:) cheers
bijouxbroussard · F
@astrosandorbits I grew up with the music of both Duke and Django. I’m a classical pianist, but there are jazz musicians in my family.
astrosandorbits · 26-30, M
@bijouxbroussard how wonderful :)
I am delighted to read this! Years ago, travelling through France, we ended up on a little campsite just outside the city of Fontainebleau. It was a rural village called Samoreau on the banks of the river Seine. It seems that Django is burried in that area, and every year there is a big Django Rheinhard festival in Fontainebleau. All the gipsies with their trailercaravans gather on that little campsite, and actually a complete subfestival devellopped over the years on that campsite, lots of musicians and other people attend that campsite on these festivities. Days of music, dance and grillings. If you search on Youtube for camping Samoreau, you can find lots of uploaded vids of this event.
PiecingBabyFaceTogether · 31-35, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@tindrummer Yes, I felt a bit paranoid awhile back.
tindrummer · M
@bijouxbroussard Better safe than sorry on social media - eh? 😎
bijouxbroussard · F
@tindrummer Indeed. I forget what prompted it…I think someone complained that her photos had been copied and reposted. I really only provided access of that album to friends (like you, Piecing and a few others) but all of a sudden the site felt unsafe.
MayorOfCrushtown · M
bijouxbroussard · F
@MayorOfCrushtown That’s amazing. You have some Native ancestry ?
MayorOfCrushtown · M
Reads out about 1 percent. It varies depending on site. African varies between ten percent and one percent and my guess somewhere in the middle. His last name is Goss and that has some Jewish roots. My dads mom has some native roots and some melungeon roots. @bijouxbroussard
MayorOfCrushtown · M
Grateful4you · M
The one looked familiar then I saw "Old Brit" mention Duke and I remembered Duke Ellington, I had to study the photo a bit, I think it's the Duke on the right. I guess in many way's, being very light skinned was a kind of blessing, but I've heard even the gorgeous Lena Horne still had to deal with racism. Sad when being able to "pass" was considered an asset.
bijouxbroussard · F
@Grateful4you Yes. It’s a weird concept, based on the "one drop rule" unique only to the U.S. (and possibly Apartheid-era South Africa).
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@bijouxbroussard crazy. we've come a long way, yet not far enough. it's fundamentally disappointing, when you consider George Floyd has only been gone just over 2 years
bijouxbroussard · F
@SW-User True, and some people are still trying to justify his murder based on mistakes he made during his lifetime. Ironically, these are some of the same folks who think the police should’ve shown restraint while Ashli Babbitt was actively committing a crime. But I digress.
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@bijouxbroussard it's totally befuddling, and their willful ignorance makes our country a more dangerous place for all of it's citizens. they are the danger.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@ChipmunkErnie You’re right, it is Duke Ellington. The man on the left is Django Reinhardt, Romani-French guitarist.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard I'd never recognize Reinhardt, though I've listened to his music and heard his name for decades. Amazing what he could do with just two working fingers on his hand.
bookerdana · M
bijouxbroussard · F
@bookerdana Django.
bookerdana · M
@bijouxbroussard thanks
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@bijouxbroussard looks like him 😮
bijouxbroussard · F
@DearAmbellina2113 It’s Duke Ellington.
bijouxbroussard · F
Mamapolo2016 · F
Mamapolo2016 · F
@bijouxbroussard Clearly, I don't know jazz.
bijouxbroussard · F
@Mamapolo2016 You knew who Duke was. A lot of people wouldn’t. 👍🏽
Mamapolo2016 · F
@bijouxbroussard Thank you for that.
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Sammy Davis Jr. used to tell a joke: "My mother was born in San Juan. So I'm Puerto Rican, Jewish, colored and married to a white woman. When I move into a neighborhood, people start running four ways at the same time."
His mom was born in New York City of Afro-Cuban descent, actually. But why ruin a joke?
His mom was born in New York City of Afro-Cuban descent, actually. But why ruin a joke?
bijouxbroussard · F
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@bijouxbroussard The tightropes he had to walk...
What couldn't he do in Show Biz?
What couldn't he do in Show Biz?
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@BackyardShaman They both had straight hair.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
I do didn't know they made an album together. I need the look fir it. Django was a jazz guitar hero of mine, Duke, well he was The Duke!
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@bijouxbroussard i listen to a lot of jazz shows on Sirius, and WBGO here in Newark, I was unaware of them ever playing together. I just looked for their recordings, i found a few on YouTube. I also never thought of "electric guitars" before Les Paul popularized them in the 1950s on. In a photo of Django playing honeysuckle rose see, there is a pickup attached to the sound hole of his instrument and a wire.
The photo was taken in 1946. Django lost a lot of money and The Duke apparently helped him recover.
The photo was taken in 1946. Django lost a lot of money and The Duke apparently helped him recover.
bijouxbroussard · F
@samueltyler2 They became good friends. I corrected the verbiage because I don’t think the album was made until after Django passed.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@bijouxbroussard what i listened to was really low quality recordings.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Yes, yet I am a detailed oriented person. Compare the noses. There's a big difference.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@DeWayfarer So you looked at other photos ?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard it was the first thing I noticed in your own image. Then I went and looked.
i would think so..
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@JimboSaturn Yes, that’s true.
Nope, but I'm pretty sure I recognize the black guy.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@LordShadowfire They both had straight hair.
PiecingBabyFaceTogether · 31-35, M
@LordShadowfire Personally I went with the eye brows.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard Looked to me like the gentleman on the right had cornrows. Maybe I need to look closer. Darn tiny phone screens.
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Django was Romani so technically I think they derive from the Indian subcontinent if you go far enough back ... where does the arbitrary line between "white" and "brown" begin? Olive complexions or what? Are Palestinian Jews (e.g., JC) white? Are some southern Europeans white and others brown?
Oh well, I will just take this opportunity to throw in a gratutitous YouTube clip no one asked for because I never get tired of it lol (from the annual Django festival in the town where he retired)
[media=https://youtu.be/0kUbRxoMTM8]
Oh well, I will just take this opportunity to throw in a gratutitous YouTube clip no one asked for because I never get tired of it lol (from the annual Django festival in the town where he retired)
[media=https://youtu.be/0kUbRxoMTM8]
bijouxbroussard · F
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@bijouxbroussard ah, that's not cool then, and I was not aware of that