Livingwell · 61-69, M
I think creating a list is divisive. People will defend to the end. But making people think is a much better exercise. You can't deny your conscience. An you also discover what your values really are.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Livingwell Thank you.
Iwillwait · M
@Livingwell So True
WestonTexan · 18-21, M
Iraq.
More so than Vietnam. Vietnam was a proxy war, but it didn’t pretend to be anything else. It was actually one of the times we were most transparent about what we were doing; it was just a failure. Iraq was founded on a deliberate deception. The media and both parties were completely in on it, and many of the American people bought it too.
More so than Vietnam. Vietnam was a proxy war, but it didn’t pretend to be anything else. It was actually one of the times we were most transparent about what we were doing; it was just a failure. Iraq was founded on a deliberate deception. The media and both parties were completely in on it, and many of the American people bought it too.
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ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@NativePortlander1970 Good point about the Gulf of Tonkin.
@ProfessorPlum77 Thank you, I had many classmates that were kids of Vietnam vets, and many classmates that were hippy kids, they fought constantly.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@NativePortlander1970 I can imagine.
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ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Adogslife Why was Clinton and the blue dress a hoax?
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@ProfessorPlum77 It wasn’t hoax, but the theatre was absurd. Why Clinton? How many Presidents have had affairs or dalliances that have not reached that level of tabloid frenzy?
All of them. That by no means exonerates Bill, but that crucifixion was solely for American salavation. Monica didn’t claim harm. Millions were wasted to let the public know that Bill was getting head.
As an aside, I didn’t vote for Bill. By the same token, I don’t need to be privy to his and Monica’s exploits. And, America certainly didn’t need to pay tens of millions to politicize a blow job.
That’s the fraud.
All of them. That by no means exonerates Bill, but that crucifixion was solely for American salavation. Monica didn’t claim harm. Millions were wasted to let the public know that Bill was getting head.
As an aside, I didn’t vote for Bill. By the same token, I don’t need to be privy to his and Monica’s exploits. And, America certainly didn’t need to pay tens of millions to politicize a blow job.
That’s the fraud.
YoMomma ·
NASA and the UN and the Money system
There’s also a lot of Medicaid fraud and all kinds of internal waste and embezzling and bs we don't even know about 😏
There’s also a lot of Medicaid fraud and all kinds of internal waste and embezzling and bs we don't even know about 😏
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@YoMomma Yes, I agree about the UN.
BohemianBabe · M
I hate that if I listed twenty, they'd all be stuff that happened because of MAGA.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@BohemianBabe Indeed?
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@badminton Hmm.
Why was number one fraud? didn't that lead to the Interstate highway system?
I agree with you regarding the 2nd Gulf War. What weapons of mass destruction?
They have been telling us since Reagan there are "eleven million" illegals here. That many probably came in during the Biden Administration.
Why was number one fraud? didn't that lead to the Interstate highway system?
I agree with you regarding the 2nd Gulf War. What weapons of mass destruction?
They have been telling us since Reagan there are "eleven million" illegals here. That many probably came in during the Biden Administration.
@ProfessorPlum77 In my view, The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 turned the country towards a near entirely car-dependent transportation system, which continues to the present day. I believe it would have been much better to have at least equally funded trains. We could have had a first-rate modern high-speed rail system today.
Because of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 (and again in 1958), we have suffered car- caused pollution, untold number of fatal accidents, the deterioration of our cities and suburbs, and social isolation caused by a car-based lifestyle. I grieve for the fine national train system we could have had if congress had funded trains, and given less to highways.
Because of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 (and again in 1958), we have suffered car- caused pollution, untold number of fatal accidents, the deterioration of our cities and suburbs, and social isolation caused by a car-based lifestyle. I grieve for the fine national train system we could have had if congress had funded trains, and given less to highways.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@badminton Interesting.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
The immigration scare.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@ProfessorPlum77 The way in which it has been exploited and misrepresented by some politicians is textbook fraud.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@SunshineGirl In my mind, the fact that they have used the term "eleven million illegals" since the time of Reagen is a fraud. That was FORTY years ago!!!
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@ProfessorPlum77 Yes, it is a depressingly recurrent theme.
Iwillwait · M
Bad is Good
Good is bad
TAXES
Media
Reality TV
Super glue
Food Pyramid
Drugs
Pharmaceuticals
Government Reach
Good is bad
TAXES
Media
Reality TV
Super glue
Food Pyramid
Drugs
Pharmaceuticals
Government Reach
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Iwillwait Super Glue? That's funny! 😝
SomeMichGuy · M
Allowing $ to permeate politics.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@SomeMichGuy Good point.
rinkydinkydoink · M
More like who is the biggest, orangest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people?
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@rinkydinkydoink You could write material. 😳
Got to be the hairy titty scandal
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Nunlover 😳
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jehova · 31-35, M
@ProfessorPlum77 floors don't "pancake" during a "collapse" furthermore if you watch the bursts of smoke from each floor as it fell it was clearly demolished.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@jehova 🤔 Maybe.
jehova · 31-35, M
@ProfessorPlum77 check out the movie Loose Change.
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ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Many agree with you!!! 😡
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@ProfessorPlum77 It is not a hoax, even saint ronnie raygun was against certain firearms in the hands of civilians...[media=https://youtu.be/ltR0wfO5L7c]
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@NativePortlander1970 Interesting.
@ProfessorPlum77 How is it interesting? Older conservatives of Reagan's and Burger's era outright rejected willy nilly ownership of firearms we see today, remember, the Brady Bill was named after Reagan's press secretary that got permanent brain damage from the assassination attempt in march 1981.