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Khenpal1 · M
@ElwoodBlues Stalinism never died in Russia's mind stream. Do you see Stalinist Nato ?
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SW-User should ask orange man to build a wall for him! lol 😂
SW-User
@Strictmichael75 Damn, it's been 4 months already.
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ElwoodBlues · M
@Justice4All claims Russia was
You say
By persisting in his Ukraine attacks, Putin has caused the destruction of the majority of Russian tanks, greatly damaged the Black Sea fleet, and made Russia a pariah nation who has to go begging for technology newer than the 1980s.
the birthplace of workers' rights.
Nope. DEAD WRONG! Labor organizations began in Europe in the late 1700s and early 1800s. At that time, serfs in Russia were still 'owned' by the big landowners, and would be for decades longer.By the 1810s, the first labour organizations to bring together workers of divergent occupations were formed. Possibly the first such union was the General Union of Trades, also known as the Philanthropic Society, founded in 1818 in Manchester.
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It has consistently opposed colonialism
Nope. DEAD WRONG! Russia treated all the iron curtain nations as colonies will minimal autonomy.Putin is godsent.
I am gobsmacked!! Putin is an evil dictator who accumulates $ billions in foreign banks and regularly murders his opposition.By persisting in his Ukraine attacks, Putin has caused the destruction of the majority of Russian tanks, greatly damaged the Black Sea fleet, and made Russia a pariah nation who has to go begging for technology newer than the 1980s.
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
@Justice4All
🙏 please let this be sarcasm!
🙏 please let this be sarcasm!
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Russia is the most Christian country on earth at the moment. It is also a voice for sanity. It only 'invaded' eastern Ukraine after it had been betrayed by NATO twice. Its goal was to stop the slaughter of Ukrainians who were being killed by Ukraine. The death sentence was a result of those people in Eastern Ukraine speaking Russian and not Ukrainian. I have known a number of Russians over the years and found them all to be straight up guys. Now I have gotten to know a large number of Ukrainians. Strangely the Ukrainians that I have met are not supportive of Ukraine. They are not fans of Russia but they do not support Ukraine. I have seen reports that there are a million Ukrainians living in Canada. A number I can believe. There are few stores or diners I go to that I don't hear someone speaking Ukrainian. I have personally helped several families from Ukraine get settled in Canada.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I have lots of contacts in both Russia and Ukraine. I have no idea who you rely on for information but my Russian friends are Baptists. My Ukrainian friends are Pentecostal.
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So then, ask them, they were viewed as a threat by Putin's policy.
my Russian friends are Baptists.
So then, ask them, they were viewed as a threat by Putin's policy.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic According to them there is no problem being Baptist in Russia. They have no desire to move or any danger to them. The Ukrainian Pentecostals and their families are now living in Canada.
SW-User
I am from Russia, from near Sochi. I don't agree with countries invading other countries. Every country should keep to its borders, and they shouldn't interfere with affairs abroad. Why do we keep killing one another? Aren't other people's lives as important as ours? US has been interfering in Ukraine for a long time. They started a revolution in 2004 and now they are funding a war that has killed thousands of people, using American taxpayers' money to do so.
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@Justice4All Ukraine chose not to implement the Minsk Agreement. I don't believe they ever had any intention of implementing it. It has been violated in several ways. What was the point of it?
"Russians might believe Ukrainians will eventually distance themselves from the West and build ties with Russia, but that is unlikely. There is too much hatred in Ukraine."
The east is still split, with many Ukrainians rejecting the West. In the rest of the country, they are either hostile or indifferent. Most crucially, the US has infiltrated its leadership. I don't think this war is worth it, but I can understand the reasons for it. US wants everything to go their way, for all countries to do what they want. They do not want a Russia that resists this, and they want to use Ukraine for all it has.
"Russians might believe Ukrainians will eventually distance themselves from the West and build ties with Russia, but that is unlikely. There is too much hatred in Ukraine."
The east is still split, with many Ukrainians rejecting the West. In the rest of the country, they are either hostile or indifferent. Most crucially, the US has infiltrated its leadership. I don't think this war is worth it, but I can understand the reasons for it. US wants everything to go their way, for all countries to do what they want. They do not want a Russia that resists this, and they want to use Ukraine for all it has.
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Iwillwait · M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Seemingly so. . .
ElwoodBlues · M
@ElwoodBlues They should have made Putin pose like the garage attendant on Aerosmith's "A little south of sanity" 😅
BizSuitStacy · M
Kids of my generation were fed a steady diet of the "Soviet evil empire" narrative, but things have changed substantially since the cold war days. A little older and wiser me realizes that neither side is innocent in this conflict. There is history of bad blood as Stalin starved about 4 million Ukrainians in the Holomodor in an effort to quell the country's nationalism. And yet, NATO's slow, but steady advancement in eastern Europe, along with the Obama administration installing a western gov't in Ukraine in 2014 is obviously viewed by Russia as a threat to their sovereignty.
The US didn't exactly roll over when the Soviets tried sending nukes to Cubs.
Politics aside, the few Russian people I've met in life are wonderful.
The US didn't exactly roll over when the Soviets tried sending nukes to Cubs.
Politics aside, the few Russian people I've met in life are wonderful.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
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@Picklebobble2 They believe they are making a sacrifice for their country.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@Strictmichael75 If other European countries get attacked it's essentially WW3 because NATO will get involved.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
SW-User
I am kind of neutral with this issue.Though the west tries to sell Ukraine as innocent and victim,I don't buy that.
My concern is all for the people of both countries and the soldiers at war(while those guys commanding them are living in luxurious rooms when their soldiers are dying).
My concern is all for the people of both countries and the soldiers at war(while those guys commanding them are living in luxurious rooms when their soldiers are dying).
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SisterShadow · F
nato must get involved sooner or later and push back russia so we can have peace negotiations... or this could literally end in a nuclear desaster
Really · 80-89, M
It's a very big country with a very turbulent history involving many other nations one of which is Ukraine.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@Really A bit like the US
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Europe needs to incude Russia.
Europe removes, it fails to include.
Europe removes, it fails to include.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
The people are okay. Their government still thinks it’s the 1960s.
Khenpal1 · M
Russia did not respect any borders last 400 years 😂
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Counterbalance.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
Don't know enough to say
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
A vast country, mostly cold, empty, and full of bears. I hear it does have a nice train ride though.
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