Do you believe in a God that Tortures people for eternity? [I Christian]

@curiosi they do not

@curiosi can you choose to believe in something that you don't find convincing? if I dont believe in Jesus can I force myself to be convinced otherwise?

@Frenchmansfury You're right, can't just convince yourself, but we do choose if we want to be kind or not. I had a real problem with all of this myself. I gave up church, stopped listening to others and sought out answers on my own. They came. So I will leave you with that as I can't convince you as that wouldn't be faith.

@Doomflower You are angry and its not my doing

@Doomflower Why do you hate Christianity?

@LoveTriumphsOverHate because it is immoral at best and harmful at worst.

@LoveTriumphsOverHate do I also have a perogative to claim life? If I were to take a small creature like a mouse and cause it as much pain as possible because I don't like it, and tell anyone who thought that was wrong of me that I have a perogative to do whatever I want to a mouse, would you find any problem with that?

To answer your question, I don't see why an omnipotent God would have trouble changing the mind of hitler or stalin. Arguably, though we cant go back in time and check, these men were very likely suffering from mental illnesses like psychopathy and sociopathy. If these mental illnesses were fixed, or God had simply not allowed them to develop in the first place, hitler and stalin would have been unrecognizably better people. The kind of people a loving god might desire in his paradise.

@Frenchmansfury You're not G-d so your point is moot.

@LoveTriumphsOverHate ok, fair enough.

If a radical Muslim threw battery acid in your daughters face for not wearing a veil in public, you would probably object right? So this Muslim tells you that Allah decides what's right or wrong and he decides what punishments shall be issued for certain crimes. You are not Allah so your points are moot.

This Muslim is using the exact same logic as you. Do you find it rational?

@cherokeepatti why are they devoid of compassion?

@Frenchmansfury they have a twisted way of looking at life.

@cherokeepatti it is interesting that you say that.

I look at those who we would say lack compassion and love for other people as people who are also suffering. As I brought up in another thread, people who are sociopaths and psychopaths have something demonstrably wrong with their physical brains. An omnipotent, loving God who aspires to compassion and asks it of his followers, would surely look at this physical ailment that his creature had no control over, and fix them.

Take someone like Vladimir Putin. A ruthless, manipulative, murderous man if ever their was one. What strikes you as most compassionate?

To throw putin in a place of torture for eternity and forget about him?

Or to take the time and use your infinite power and knowledge to correct the mental illness and help him be a better person?

If we're going to talk about compassion, I think you'd have to choose the latter to remain consistent.