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I Am Not An Atheist

As a former atheist says:

Allelse · 36-40, M
So his lack of understanding is why he turned to religion? Yeah that sounds about right.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Speedyman Saying 'of course they do' does not answer the question or respond to the challenge. Given that Atheism is, but definition, a lack of belief in God or Gods, any other misrepresentation by ignorant people is totally irrelevant. If you disagree, prove your point! Just saying that it isn't so because that's what you believe is saying nothing at all.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You are hilarious in your avoidance@Bushranger
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Speedyman Come on, expand on what you say. Argue the point.
Midnightoker1 · 61-69, M
Asking too many questions will lead to atheism..You'll see soon enough that the bible is just a book and your priest is just a dude.
Carazaa · F
@Midnightoker1
💖 pastors have faults and so does everyone, yes. But everyone will one day bow to the Lord when he come in the clouds to judge the living and the dead! So you can reject him who died to set you free, but it is not smart! He knows the number of hairs on your head!
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He came to us in a manger and died for you and me because He loves us.

He says to you

"I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have drawn you with a loving kindness" Jer 32:3
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
Looks like you have! 🤣🤣🤣@HeilHitler
NativeOregonian · 51-55
Milk jugs did not exist during Lewis's time, milk bottles did, so therefore I suspect that this is a fake quote due to modern terminology.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Irrelevant @LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman I wasn’t responding to you.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
It doesn’t matter it was still irrelevant@LeopoldBloom
SW-User
This is a rather interesting logic trap .-.
pride49 · 31-35, M
@Speedyman Ugh, Explain Occum's razor. and as a Prerequisite, then explain how my nonknowledge of it disproves any atheist arguments I have made 🙄
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Look it up on the Internet@pride49
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@pride49 well, if you made up your mind that a higher power can't exist and will not believe in it, then how can you have a discussion?
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
The problem is it’s true. You don’t know what you’re talking about@pride49
pride49 · 31-35, M
@Speedyman Of..course not
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Well do you? How much of the Christian faith of you investigated? Apart from perhaps snippets on some website Where everyone else doesn’t know what they’re talking about either?@pride49
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
Drivel. The conclusion does not follow from the premise. The lack of trust in thinking applies just as much to Lewis's conclusion god must exist as to the atheist's conclusion that it does not.

Anyway, atheists don't [i]dis[/i]believe they simply [i]withhold [/i]belief on the grounds of lack of proof. If you provide a rational atheist with proof they will believe.

On the other hand as Granny Weatherwax said on the subject of the gods:

Granny Weatherwax: I don't hold with paddlin' with the Occult. Once you start paddlin' with the Occult you start believing in Spirits, and when you start believing in Spirits you start believing in Demons, and then before you know where you are you're believing in gods. And then you're in trouble.
Nanny Ogg: But all them things exist.
Granny Weatherwax: That's no call to go around believing in them. It only encourages 'em.

Lewis seems to think that a god must necessarily be good. Experience suggests otherwise which brings to mind Vetinari's position on the gods:

"If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

And finally Richard Dawkins makes a good point on the subject of Christian objections to atheism:

“We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.”

Every time that a theist writes 'God' try replacing it with 'at least one god' or 'one or more gods'. The logic, what little there is, remains the same but you'll have a hard time convincing adherents of the Abrahamic religions that if their arguments were valid that they would justify belief in Kali, Odin, Zeus, etc., just as much as their own brand.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ninalanyon You don't think at all if the drivel you posted is your premise. Too Funny!!!!
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You say a logical statement by a former atheist is drivel and then you go and post a whole load of absolute nonsense. Just proves my point. Atheists rely on drivel to establish their point@ninalanyon
The same objection would apply to God.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You my friend might have a head in a sieve but some of us have actually travel the world and we know what we are talking about. Some of us also get actually out and about instead of sticking our head in the Internet all day. Some of us also attend churches which are growing and are full of young people. So some of us can laugh at your rather silly and gullible assumptions you have gleaned of the Internet@LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman Typical. You saw something, so therefore it's true. And of course, any actual studies to the contrary must be false.

Pew Research is a legitimate organization. You haven't even told us what country you're in where Christianity is supposedly growing. Great, the little church you attend gained a few members, that doesn't mean anything. Please provide a chart showing the number of Christians in your country over the past ten years. Or, you can keep talking out of your ass.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Why? I know what I see. Why should I spend my time because some fanatic like you tells me to? @LeopoldBloom
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Are there people that are going to point out that it doesnt matter who is with the "team".
As long as the "team" makes positive claims on reality... that "teammembers" have absolutely no weight on those positive claims. The only thing that has a weight, is the evidence.

Where is the evidence speedyman! Where is it!
NativeOregonian · 51-55
@Kwek00 There is no tangible evidence that exists in our physical Universe.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@NativeOregonian That's my point... 🤫
Speedyman · 70-79, M
As you make no point whatever that makes sense then please stop trawling on my site@Kwek00
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Personally i'm not sure & I can't really say I care. I'd like to think that there's a higher power out there, and there just might be. But if we ever had any interaction with one, they've left us just as soon as they met or made us & for good reason. Just look at how we treat everything.
no amount of these appeals to authority or credentialism will convince me.

I don't give a fuck how smart he was how many books he wrote etc the fact is that this was not a rational decision but an emotional one to convert back.

i don't care what kind of achievements the "Former atheist" of the world had their reasons for retaking up the cross are all fundamentally irrational. Every. last. one.
You’re the one who seems emotional. I know a man who could help with that. @BetweenKittensandRiots
@Speedyman I STILL Wouldn't be a christian if I had absolute proof the bible was true. still would be a dedicated member of the satanic temple.[i][b] nothing [/b][/i]would change.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
An emotional decision @BetweenKittensandRiots
Platoscave · F
When someone moves in next door to me and they wanna be friends and 13 years later we have three little convos a month, or less.....

I might casually ask her what is her religion, but then again most likely

I WOULDN'T CARE

so why does anyone?

GET OVER IT. GROW UP

"RELIGION" and "ATHEISM" are people's PRIVATE personal things. Let it go.
MrSimons · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom No, because the universe is physical and temporal. It exists within time and space. It's therefore contingent upon someone or something else for its existence. That everything else was created by a necessary being is the logical outcome of observing that all temporal things have a beginning and therefore need a cause.

I really don't think you're making yourself look all that intelligent by giving such short shrift to classical arguments for theism. "So who made God then?" is the argument of a 10 year old.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You never make a rational statement. Keep on confirming little buddy! 🚗🚗🚗@LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman No, you're just too stupid and closed-minded to be able to follow me.

Interesting that you responded with another insult. That kind of proves my point. A normal person would say "how can you think that? I'd never resort to violence!"
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I never even mentioned the violence. You did. Seems your aggressive traits come out even when you don’t want them to. Please don’t project your own aggressive tendencies on other people. Projection you say the old word projection@LeopoldBloom
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I don't know why are you pugs feel it necessary to trawl my site with remarks of Christopher Hitchens because he never did make sense. The God he didn't believe in we don't believe in either. He was certainly an expert in inventing strawmen to try and knock down button fortunately he wasn't very good at even knocking them down as he was an intellectual lightweight @Sunshine04
JBird · F
You can find anything online on being former something. I can get you a video on people becoming atheists/agnostics.
Reflection2 · 41-45, M
What is God? The shape of God, the form of God? Does anyone knows? No body. I bet all religious books are silent on that. God existence can neither be proved or disproved by science or logic. We will never go that far to understand the supreme power which made it all happen.
I think it fair enough to understand we won't find answers to every question the humanity is trying to figure out. A lot will always be hidden from us. I guess, one have to decide if they chose to believe in God or not. Its personal choice of each individual. A choice which will only be proven after death when pur energies enter another universal dimension.

Having said that, one thing seems every undeniable so far, that everything around us is deeply connected. To me it leads to one source of mighty mighty power. The power which initiated it all. I believe that power source which initiated it all is GOD. I BELIEVE IN GOD.

The God which isn't in human form or in statues etc etc
JudgeHolden · 100+, M
Fucking CS Lewis is just a gay Tolkien
Speedyman · 70-79, M
That comment reveals you as an absolute idiot. What a plonker you are@JudgeHolden
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Speedyman Sadly Lewis was right in his analogy. If all we are is a bag of chemicals reacting chemically then our thought are utterly meaningless and irrelevant. There can be no Truth there.
Biffed · 26-30, M
[quote]It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought[/quote] lol did developmental psychology not exist during this time??😂😂
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
I disagree the more questions I asked the more my beliefs were strengthened. Not to mention the more I studied anatomy and psychology the same thing
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DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
I’m sorry I misunderstood. I agree with you completely @Speedyman
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Apologies that I misunderstood your statement. At least we now agree we are singing from the same hymn sheet@DeluxedEdition
Abbenthewarwolf · 18-21, M
Good writer and philosopher 🙂👍
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
I'm sure Mr Hitchens believes in God now@Sunshine04
JBird · F
I wish former theists can answer that. 😆
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
Oh dear the illogical Mr Hitchens. He never did make sense. Why do you trawl his nonsense on my site?@NativeOregonian
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
The good book tells us not to argue with a fool or you will be like him. So I will not argue with you any longer because I do not want to be like you. Please go and troll somewhere else@NativeOregonian
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
It's interesting how angry Stephen Fry gets with a God he doesn't believe in@NativeOregonian

 
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