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I Am Not An Atheist

As a former atheist says:

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MrSimons · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom No, because the universe is physical and temporal. It exists within time and space. It's therefore contingent upon someone or something else for its existence. That everything else was created by a necessary being is the logical outcome of observing that all temporal things have a beginning and therefore need a cause.

I really don't think you're making yourself look all that intelligent by giving such short shrift to classical arguments for theism. "So who made God then?" is the argument of a 10 year old.
@MrSimons I'm giving short shrift to the Kalam Cosmological Argument because it's incoherent and self-contradictory. If something that isn't "physical and temporal" created the universe, then it existed outside of time. But without time, you cannot have sequence, so the two steps of an act of will, conception and execution, would be simultaneous. That would make it a natural process, because a conscious mind can only exist in time.

What you're doing is saying "this is the God I need to result in the universe," then pointing to the universe and saying "look, there's the proof that the God I defined created it." So it's a circular argument.

And this doesn't even address your inability to propose a mechanism whereby this convenient disembodied mind could affect material reality, other than to simply assert that he must have because you need him to.

The reason ten-year-olds ask "who made God" is because this is such an obvious question. And theistic philosophers have been tying themselves in knots to come up with explanations. What you really have is a semantic stopsign - not an answer to the question, but a trick to stop further questioning.

"Who made God?"
"You must not ask that question."

You're not making yourself look intelligent by parroting the absurdities you learned in Sunday School and preening because you did such a good job memorizing them.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I think you are trying to make yourself intelligent by parroting the absurdities you have learned somewhere else of the Internet. Don’t worry it doesn’t fool any of us have actually had some education@LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. It's obvious that your "religion" is nothing more than insulting people who disagree with you.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I’m not insulting you I’m just telling you where you are from what your posts tell me. It always amuses me that you guys feel free to insult anyone else about their religion and then then somebody tells you the truth about exactly what you are you get insulted, @LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman I'm still waiting for you to tell the truth. After all this time, you still haven't.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I’m just telling you the truth . As I’ve said you feel free to insult anyone else’s beliefs and then when someone tells you the truth about yourself you feel insulted@LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman Why doesn’t God tell us directly, instead of sending an arrogant jackass like you to speak for him?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
If you open a Bible he will tell you. The fool of said in his heart there is no God. There you are straight from the horses mouth@LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman The person who wrote that was a fool who only wanted to insult his opponents. You do the same thing.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Not at all he was just a logical man applying it to illogical people like you who dismiss the evidence because of the VAT Curity of your minds@LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman Nope, he was just a small-minded, hateful little twerp like you, whose only goal in life was to insult people who disagreed with him. No wonder he appeals to you.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You guys make me laugh. You absolutely confirm my opinion that atheism is a result of ignorance. Many thanks! 😃 @LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman You already thought that.

Thanks for confirming my opinion that if people like you ever take over, you'd burn people like me at the stake or shut us up in some other way.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You never make a rational statement. Keep on confirming little buddy! 🚗🚗🚗@LeopoldBloom
@Speedyman No, you're just too stupid and closed-minded to be able to follow me.

Interesting that you responded with another insult. That kind of proves my point. A normal person would say "how can you think that? I'd never resort to violence!"
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I never even mentioned the violence. You did. Seems your aggressive traits come out even when you don’t want them to. Please don’t project your own aggressive tendencies on other people. Projection you say the old word projection@LeopoldBloom