Is Bernie out of the running?

@helenS I like the way u write ;-)

@Stilltryinghard Oh thank you!

@Burnley123 Warren is my favorite, but I will vote blue no matter who.

@Longpatrol darn tooting!

@Burnley123 Mayor Pete is 38.

@PainfulTruth
https://similarworlds.com/18-Politics/2954376-Discussing-politics-with-any-liberal-on-SW?com_id=34533698&ncom_id=34552635

Me:
[quote]Best con-man is the one that fucks you in the ass, and makes you feel smart about it. 🤷‍♂️ Demagogues 🤷‍♂️[/quote]

You:
[quote]just like the utterly unqualified and incompetent community agitator B. Hussein Obozo.[/quote]

Me:
[quote]you should really send me those "community agitator" things that Obama said. I'm super dupber curious where they are to be found? Most of his rhetoric was a liberal-stance on how to form a community.

I also find it a bit weird that you express this as a way to make a comparisson? Because if there is one thing the current president of the US is totally incapable off, it's forming a liberal-stance of community. In his speech and in his actions he constructs an image of what he believes the community is and he disregards/brands all the rest as agitators against that community. He's exclusionairy at the core. That's also one of the big aspects of being a demagogue and being a poppulist.
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@PainfulTruth A liberal stance of community, means that your community respects some fundamental groundlaws, that you also find in a document called human rights. Where you build your community so that people with all kinds of diffrence can live together because they don't discriminate on the grounds of sex, race, religion, etc. You know, the "lets all get along together as a community"-sort of rhetoric.

While the current president is pretty good to pampering towards the majority and actively demonising minorities that he doesnt need to get back reelected. Like for instance kicking transgenders out of the army. Or just calling people that cross the border all rapists and thieves and that are roaming the street at night.

If you call Obama a community aggitator... then I just wonder in what way he was aggitating and if he was dividing the community in annyway.



Do you consider yourself relevant enough or rational enough to waste other peoples time btw? Like posting a colored background typed out conversation ending with the word "racist" and then normalising this to every "liberal" you ever talked too? Is that rational, relevant and not a waste of your own time?

@4meAndyou Glad to know it's not so bad.

Warren has already taken a good bit of it already. @whowasthatmaskedman

@Burnley123 I think you misunderstood what I meant by that, but nevermind. And that last sentence is exactly what I'm talking about here. If Democratic party doesn't want Bernie as president, they're going to make sure he doesn't get the nominee.

@Carver Maybe I did misunderstand. I don't know you well and maybe don't get your sense of humour. but I think we agree. The UK Labour Party had thrown sooo much shit Jeremy Corbyn and still do. Some of them would rather lose elections than win with him as leader.

'To what extent have social democratic parties been institutionally co-opted by neo liberalism?' would be a good essay question.

I think the President should be age 60 max to start out. Enough of the geezers. @SmartKat

@jackjjackson So seventy is too old to start? 😇

Going forward yes. You get Presidents are likely to be more forward thinking. That doesn’t affect this President and his certain re-election. @Burnley123

@jackjjackson As vice president, yes. Stressful, but he's not on the frontlines as much. Honestly anyone with a serious condition shouldn't consider running, especially at 70+. That seems to exclude all of the main candidates though...

Are you kidding. Henry rant everything 🤠@raysam363

@raysam363 [quote]the last election cycle where he had a change of heart and started supporting Hillary. [/quote]

Change of heart, may be an unintended pun, but he did the only logical thing. His supporters, however, did not follow suit, and either abstained or cast protest votes. This is why we have Trump in office.

[quote]Also, from a medical standpoint, nobody enters the oval office and comes out healthy.[/quote]

Not true. Trump is getting healthier by the day. Did you read the results of his physical? His mental state is also great. He passed with flying colors, a test any 3-year old, may have a little difficulty with.

@bijouxbroussard I didn't know that about Cheney. I think Bernie's problem is that even if he is in good health, people are gonna ask questions. Sad to say but I think a lot of voters will factor in his age now after this.

@Northwest Just on a personal level, I wish him well.

@Burnley123 I wish him well as well. I received an email form his company, insisting he's OK, and ready to go, but having seen people with the same condition, all too often, this is a major health alert. He's not going to be able to handle the rigors of a full blown campaign. For his, and his family's sake, he should put an end to it, and figure out how to transform into a King Maker.

@Northwest I bet his family are advising the same tbing.

@Burnley123 [quote]But you don't support America having the same?[/quote]

I think you misunderstand my position.

I [b]highly favor[/b] a [i]Canadian-style[/i] national health care system for the United States.

I [b]strongly oppose[/b] the ObamaCare mandate.

Why?

Canadians have a progressive tax system like ours, even more so.

Those with large means pay more - and that helps support the Canadian provincial health care systems.

But the ObamaCare mandate disregards our progressive tax system for the vast majority of Americans - and instead makes us pay with AFTER TAX dollars premiums to health care insurance companies who are PROFITING by those premiums.

And although there are "subsidies" available for some, that doesn't apply for very low income individuals. They are instead thrown onto Medicaid, with its subpar services. Put all Members of Congress on Medicaid and see how they'd like it.

@beckyromero Thanks for the reply. I get your position now and I see the sense in it

The kiss of death. But side’s support 😂😂😂 @beckyromero @Burnley123 @Burnley123

Uh uh. Spilled crack. @QuixoticSoul

@jackjjackson Right...

Now we are getting somewhere 😉 @QuixoticSoul

@Budwick You are using the Budwick profile to troll and JackJacksonJnr for the semi coherent comments. You sly dog. Nobody will spot that. 😜

@Burnley123 No, Jack is just a nice guy.
He's always been the nice one.
When we go out, and he's supposed to be my wing man - JACK is the one that gets laid!

@Budwick 😆 😆 😆 😆

Tulsi is the best choice for the Dems. It’s time to move on from the geezers. @SW-User

@jackjjackson Tulsi is the only dim running who's not completely nuts.

Serious and reflective. Capable of examining board domestic and foreign policy issues. @eli1601

@jackjjackson giving away more taxpayer money to more people.

Correct sir @SheCallsMeCrushDaddy