Question for the Christians posting.

Where did you get the idea that everything that happens is God’s Will. Do you think it was his desire to bring his Son to Earth to die the horrific death that he did?
Have you seen “The Passion”?

Christians are always banging on about... Gods plan & he gave us free will.
Contradictory or what????
Take as long as you like!! 🤷‍♀️

My findings were God is either not there or doesn't care. All powerful and all benevolent can not coexist in the same being and have evil still exist.

Because there is a very real devil that God , himself created and he rose up against God wanting to be just like him, God banished him and 1/3 of the angels were cast to the earth... Satan is the cause of all that is wrong in the world.. God is everything right!

It's not convenient or good PR to accuse that god of having anything to do with unpleasantness here...they say WE are to blame...or Satan. None of it makes any sense so I am glad you are questioning it

I was molested by 4 catholic priests for almost 5 years ,where was god ? No one can answer because there is no answer. God has not answered me or my prayers ,blind faith or just blind people?

This is my opinion , Diseases are man made , god wants humans and society to see the issue in their actions before he helps us. He wants us to help others first and start caring for each other before he helps us, he wants us to understand that our behaviour to other humans is wrong so gives us free will to make the mistakes and learn from it and become a better person. I don’t think god makes us suffer in fact I think humans make other humans suffer. This is just how I see it. He wants us to stop being selfish

Not everything tgat happens is God's will. God has a plan, and uses tragedy sometimes for the greater good, but He does not cause the tragedy, and mankind has the ability to act on their own (free will).

Children are born with horrible defects and diseases. Sometimes, people become stronger, more patient and loving from raising such kids. I know I have. Children with these ailments can show us throw true meaning of love and a fighting spirit.

Plus, if a child is born with a cancer (for example), and their parent or sibling goes on to learn how to treat tgat cancer, or research a cure for it, God used their tragedy to bring something good into the world.

We don't always know God's plans, or what He has in mind for us. Sometimes, our pain and anger make it easy to blame Him and miss the true gifts He gives.

Hope this helps.

God is not the author of evil satan is
Who gave satan power ? mankind
in many cases in the Bible Christ was asked "Who sinned "?
and he said no one ,,the child was born with a purpose
ever been in a cancer ward ,burn unit ?
None of them are blaming God ,they are making peace with what might come
When Saul was killing Christians ,,were they lost ?
or was their suffering over
The Bible says they are reserved for the day of the Lord
for us to be comforted with the knowledge they will not be left in the grave
that at the last trump of God ,all who belong to God will be raised to life again and all of us will go with Christ
who's names remain in the book of life

Why do bad things happen to good people ,,
cancer has been brought upon man ,by man
Its on the rise ,,
why do kids suffer and die in Africa ,,why do adults keep cranking them out when they know they don't have enough resources for themselves ?

The Papacy teach's you go to purgatory ,,or hell
only people who have witnessed miracles and done good deeds go right to heaven ,,the Pope has to saint them
they have even dug up bodies and put them on trial ,,fact
But that is not supported by the Bible ,that is a tradition of men ,,,though I know I will make some mad
not much the Papacy does is Holy ,,its a life of traditions that lead men to stray from the written word of God
And how do I know this ? right from the horses mouth

OK, so after reading all these comments it boils down to the fact that I shohldnt question God's will? That's a pretty hard pill to slow when speaking of why things happen to innocent children.

God Himself said that Satan is the god of this world. I don't understand it, allegedly we had a perfect world and blew it, but in all honesty, that looked like a set up too. Everything flies in the face of the concept of omniscience throughout the bible, yet I believe Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead , and is the Son of God. I believe the Apostolic Creed. Some things we simply have to find out when we shed these mortal coils.

Here is my personal belief...I do believe that "God" does exist. I was raised in the church myself and as I grew up, began to question, and threw myself into it even more in order to find answers, all I ended up with was being more confused and not getting any real answers (and what few I was given made no sense whatsoever). I no longer believe that "God" is the god of the Bible as I was always taught. I learned that all religion is man made, that all scriptures were written by people and not "God", and that every perception of the religious "God" is only a concoction of myth and fantasy...and in reality does not even exist at all. We all create "God" in OUR image and not the other way around. Is "GOD" out there? Yes, I believe so. Did God create what we know as the universe? Yes again, I believe so. I do believe that God works in and takes care of (his, hers, its) creation just like a garden needs tending to. However, though I do believe that God wants a relationship with us and does hear us and listens (perhaps even "helps" sometimes too), I do not believe that God has any "plan" for us nor do I believe that God intervenes or interferes much with the natural course of things either. All of the blaming and questioning god has roots in religious teachings that have permeated or lives, cultures, and societies. God has no "will" over and for us other than to live, learn, and grow. That's my take on it anyway after years of searching for truth in my life. Don't get me wrong...all religions do have good things to offer us in them, but they are also flawed and imperfect because they were created by US and not God, and not one of them is the real and the "one true" institution.

I'm sorry about what you've lived through. The truth is most people don't really want the answer to that question, and another majority doesn't like the answer. The reality is we all live in sin - and we certainly live in a fallen world, meaning there is sin. So while many of us are good (and innocent) by the world's standards, none of us are by God's standard. The good news is that he's given us a way out - through the plan of salvation that goes through His Son Jesus Christ, his death and resurrection. If you've heard this before and rejected it, well.. it's still true... it's the greatest truth in the world, and understanding that is the start to having peace about it.

No religion should be regarded as the ultimate interpretation of absolute being. Our feeble attempts to understand the nature of God have permitted most to interpret it (God) through the personification of emotions. It is through that personification that many are in error.

I mean no disrespect either ,as soon as you start questioning ,you are no longer a good catholic ,if your not stupid and you dont have blind faith your of no use . welcome to the real world nice to meet you 🤗🌈

That's an difficult one. I asked myself similar questions when I lost an loved one.

The best explanation I can give is only through suffering can you join in his compassion and love.
Only through struggle do we truly appreciate the positive aspects of life.

God is not the same for everyone. So, you might get different answers, but unless you're a believer yourself, the answer is guaranteed not to convince you. By believer, I mean to have faith, as it's all about faith, not proof.

I think you are taking some shortcuts in your search for understanding - and it's leading you to confusion.

Just think about your question - "If everything that happens is God's will" - Right there is where I think you are getting into trouble. I think you are talking about predestination and it's a very difficult and confusing topic.

But, I don't believe that God causes cancer in anybody.
I don't think that God interferes with the direction of our lives.

But if you are starting off believing that God wants children to suffer - I think you need to regroup.

The things that happen occur by chance and probability. There are no religious platitudes that will make you feel better about the evil that we all encounter

The closest explanation I have for god is that his will is that the universe runs itself

I was raised Catholic, too. I left the church for several reasons. I was taught a certain doctrine, by fallible human beings, that to anyone with a brain seemed contradictory and inconsistent. When I questioned what I was taught, I was discouraged and even punished. I was told to “read the Bible”, then told that the things spelled out [b]explicitly[/b] were [b]not[/b] to be taken literally, “we will explain to you what it means”. Again, inconsistent and contradictory. I hung in there for a very long time. I don’t hassle people of faith, among whom are my parents; I figure if it comforts them, that’s a [b]good[/b] thing.

The devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy. We may not understand why God "allows" certain things to happen, but it's definitely not His will for His children to suffer. It's a result of the original fall of man, and the resulting battle between good and evil. Through all of the pain and suffering, we have to lean on God and trust in Him.

Thing is, God didn't actually "say all "those things were His will. It was a human, who made that up to explain why all this stuff happens. They were saying things like that long before Christianity was invented.

God is not evil in nature. But we all have to live in His world and survive, or not. And our bodies are subject to all ills. If they were not, we would be immortal. Your body is not the important part of you. You leave it behind at some point, and go with God, Who takes you home.

God has not ever promised us that we will not suffer, and he never promised us life for a length of time that WE choose.

Instead, He promised us that He would be with us, right by our side, as we cross to the other side. I remember being so frightened, right before surgery, and I decided to pray. I think I really connected, because the deepest peace I have ever felt washed over me...and now I know that God's peace is His greatest gift.

Yes, I have often wondered the same thing. My son has Cystic Fibrosis, for which there is no cure. It's genetic and his mother and I gave it to him. Barring accidents, people with CF die from it. It is horrible knowing that I made my son this way and horrible seeing him having to cope with it every day.

That’s the age old question isn’t it? Why do bad things happen to good people?

I think it’s perfectly okay to question the gospel. I do it all the time. I ask God in prayer sometimes.

To me everything that happens cannot be God’s Will. He gave us all free will, which means we can choose to follow Him and try to do His will or not follow Him. Where we don’t follow Him, we may or may not accidentally do His Will but most of our actions we will do without reference toHis Will.

Now there are some people who think everything is His Will or it is Gods plan for you or worse still it happened because of something you did. IMHO, those people are full of crap.

Bad things happen to Good People. Good things happen to Bad people.

The best we can do is to try to do God’s Will and accept He’ll make the best of whatever we do.

I remember reading somewhere in the bible that the land was cursed after Adam and Eve sinned and thorns and thistles are to now grow. It makes sense that diseases and other matters of suffering were created as well....

I admit as a Christian things like what you are describing did in fact trouble me. I cannot understand what goes through God's mind...He wants no one to suffer yet he created means of suffering? I don't think it's my place to question it...

Maybe those inflicted go straight to heaven and now live in eternity pain free and are happy for eternity. Maybe they are the first in line to be rewarded.

If human beings paid more attention to where they will live in eternity, rather than to this short period of time on earth, I think we would all be better off. I think the people you speak of may be God's special children and for all the suffering they do here on earth, this suffering gives them a first class ticket in heaven. Just a thought on what a just God's plan might be all about.

right,,,,it makes no sense,that is like saying,to your kids,kids i'm giving you cancer to teach you lesson,or because it's my will for you to have cancer,

I had a friend that was very religious. She would tell me stuff. I went to my mom and started to ask questions. Some reason my mom told me the bible was just stories in a book. Also back then people would think thunder was a act of God. But really it was just thunderstorm. I asked why would God let kid's get sick. I had a friend that had cancer. She told me that there was no God. But human's and animal's just get sick. Just like we are born and some day we just die. Some reason that just made since

Theodicy, both the positive and negative, is wishful thinking. When a person can get past the God myth then that is the beginning of true morality

Sorry you had to go through that, and sorry for your child.

I dont think there is, or can be, a good answer to that. The best you'll get is 'its gods mysterious purpose', or maybe 'its a judgement on you (or your family or your city or your nation/race/sect'. Which is to say, really bullsht handwaves pretending to be answers.

Free Will. There is no destiny.

😈Wrong god!

If this life were all there is then you have a legitimate complaint/question. However this life is not all there is and the reward that comes later makes the sufferings we undergo now seem trivial.

God created this existence. This world is not perfect because God has given us the freedom to choose to believe or not believe. To go against his will or to accept his will.
There are 2 kinds of evil in this world. Natural evil such as a flood that drowns people and man made evil such as a nuclear war. For natural evils God had created an order to the universe and if God were to come down and miraculously stop every strong wind, every heavy rain then there would be no order to this world. That same strong rain that causes flood might fill up a dry river that provides water to many for years to come. As far as a response to human evils again its down to choice. How can our decision to serve the Living God mean anything if he takes that choice away from us? This life is very temporary and when it is over our suffering here is totally gone for eternity. You might feel bad for a baby who suffers and dies while he is with our Father instantly blameless which you while on earth appear to have the better life but struggle to accept God and stuggle with daily sins and torments.

Read When Bad Things Happen to Good People - Harold Kushner.

I often wonder these exact same questions but take hope and belief in my faith..

That's just it - you dont know what his will is - good things can happen too. I was just looking this up and it says: ( and I dont usually quote the Bible) but , [b][c=#003BB2] Amos 3:6: “Is a trumpet blown in a city, and the people are not afraid? Does disaster come to a city, unless the Lord has done it?”
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life and death is a cycle of life, in a perfect world we would be immortal and fingering our soulmates for eternity but to throw every shit part at GOD is kinda weird when we're so imperfect and still seek/deserve perfection.

I second that question

This website explains it pretty good if you care to look

https://www.oneplace.com/ministries/bible-answer-man/read/articles/why-did-god-let-that-child-die-by-clay-jones-17159.html

Everything that happens is not God's will. Sin that we commit is not God's will. Rape,murder, abuse are not what God wants for us. This world is not perfect and often we are allowed to do as we please even if it may harm others.
God's knowledge is perfect. Our knowledge is very limited. A child who lives a short life might be pitied here on Earth but may actually have an easier time choosing a right path since all children are innocent. Remember this life is incredibly fleeting. What is 70-90 years compared to eternity? After death comes the most incredible experience of pain free, anxiety free, guilt free, peace with God.
God is always in control which is different than saying that everything that happens is his will. Nature produces beautiful things and terrible disasters often the same mechanism that causes us pain is the reason for something incredible as well. Remember we are only here for a short time. It's what we do, how we life and in whom we hope that is important.

Had to step away for a bit, but I see I've received a lot of responses. Will look through them now.

It's tragic but we love on a sin sick world Read chapters 9-11 in the Book of Romans in the Bible

We will know that one day.

Religious beliefs are for some a savoir, thats all nothing else 😊 certainly not for me but if it helps others why not😊

Didn't you start this off saying it was a question for Christians? 🤔