Question for the Christians posting.

@Harriet03 The two are not mutually exclusive. Gods's plan is God's plan and free will is free will. Judas was a classic example of 'free will' being part of God's plan. Judas showed his nature way back when the hooker was giving the Naz a foot rub, and he started whining about how expensive the oil was, and how it could have been sold for money to feed the poor. Judas wasn't the least bit concerned about the poor. He was jealous and concerned about the money! Judas was the first democrat! 😂

@puck61 If I could stop a person, from Raping a child I would. That's the difference me & your God!!

@Harriet03 We are under the dispensation of grace. The gift of salvation is available and our salvation has nothing at all to do with our actions and efforts. Every evil imaginable is done by mankind every day. You cannot take darkness into a lit room, but you can take light into a dark room. Light disperses darkness. Darkness cannot do a thing to light. The only way for darkness to exist is for light to be extinguished or simply not available.

@puck61 You avoid the point (AGAIN)!
You either have a God, who sends rapists to rape children.
Or a God who watches children getting raped & stands by & does Nothing!! 🤷‍♀️

@Harriet03 You guys always say that! God does not send rapists to rape children. God answers some prayers and others He doesn't, but under the dispensation of Grace, God does not harden hearts as with the Pharaoh or Judas. God does not rain fire down on the altar , or send plagues. Humanity has brought every plague and evil upon itself in it's fallen state. God in His mercy provides the means of rescue and gives humanity the choice to accept or reject it.

@puck61 I'm sure the children will be 'thrilled' to hear That!!

@Harriet03 It's kind of silly to blame God for the deliberate actions of people. God doesn't stop baby murderers either, but millions of people want to call it a "right". That lets the idiot hard heads off the hook for carelessly spilling their seed with no sense of responsibility also.

@puck61 He is either ALL POWERFUL or he's not!!

@puck61 God Murdered millions of pregnant woman! It's all in your book...
So don't start that shit fella!!

@Harriet03 Yes! Some people believe in the possibility of either ,His non existence, or some kind of limitations. It's fair to throw that variable in there in my opinion. I personally believe there is a "God gene". Some people believe. Others do not. Some change their minds. Others do not. Some people love the Lord, and others see Jesus Christ as a fire escape. God uses people, and people use God and the wheel keeps turning till it stops.

@puck61 I prefer a 'smidge' of evidence, old fashioned I know!!

@Harriet03 Really? What evidence do you have that God murdered "millions" of pregnant women? Sound to me like you're being a "smidge" selective. God has not commanded any army since the dispensation of grace.

@puck61 Flood! 🤷‍♀️

@Harriet03 The old testament has a record of events allegedly "commanded" by God that would curdle the blood of Genghis Khan, and make Attila the Hun's glasses fog over~! In one breath you imply that God is a lie, and in the next breath you cite the old testament as "evidence". Wazzup wid dat?

@puck61 Not evidence, I never said it was! (Play fair).
Quoting from the 'holy' book.
It's either all true or it isn't.
Or are you another Cherry picker??

@Harriet03 Read our thread Harriet!

@puck61 Again you totally ignore my point. This is pointless, all I have is Science, common sense and logic.
Your immune to all 3!
Have a nice day ✌

@Harriet03 Ahhh! Well done good and faithful leftist! 😉

@Harriet03
"If I could stop a person, from Raping a child I would. That's the difference me & your God!!"
It wasn't that long ago that it was legal for men to rape their wives.That was all about women not being able to say no to the husband...a religious thing.

@Fernie EXACTLY!

@puck61 Leftist?!!!! Just because I disagree with You?
That just about sums you up.... 🤦‍♀️

@Harriet03 But you are a leftist, as your posts consistently show. Nothing wrong with that, of course.

@Harriet03 They embarrass themselves

@Fernie Puck61 SWs answer to Ned Flanders!!

@Harriet03
Well that was right out of the playbook. I wasn't trying to insult you. You know I absolutely adore you! Don't you? Haven't you seen those posts where I defend your virtue like a textbook soyboy?