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lovingdead · 36-40, M
On the surface id say no. Were animals.
Yet we want/seek kindness, peace, etc.
Odds are we've all experienced hurt, and have in turn probably inflicted it. More often than not when it happens to us its wrong, when we cause it, its justified.
I think thats the slowest part of us to evolve.
Some people can be bad and not be bothered,
While others may yell at a waiter and later realize we took out on anger on the wrong person. I think that mistake shouldn't exactly haunt us but instead forever be there to remind us. We all want better, and to earn that i think we should be better.
To try and write off bad behavior as human nature (ok mildly factual) but where do we stop? Why have laws, why have loyalty, why playpretend that anyone cares if all someones argument for wrongdoing is indifference.
Or the argument can be made for the light and darkside of human nature.
You cant write off the bad, to do so is to give up on the good.
Its chaos, to say on a bad day. "Things could always be worse" they help yourself feel better, then by that logic at a suprise party someone you care about throws for you you can say "things could be better"
We're in the ebb and flow of human nature, and granted if you can get to the good side and stay, awesome.
But never should anyone be content in those darker parts.
Yet we want/seek kindness, peace, etc.
Odds are we've all experienced hurt, and have in turn probably inflicted it. More often than not when it happens to us its wrong, when we cause it, its justified.
I think thats the slowest part of us to evolve.
Some people can be bad and not be bothered,
While others may yell at a waiter and later realize we took out on anger on the wrong person. I think that mistake shouldn't exactly haunt us but instead forever be there to remind us. We all want better, and to earn that i think we should be better.
To try and write off bad behavior as human nature (ok mildly factual) but where do we stop? Why have laws, why have loyalty, why playpretend that anyone cares if all someones argument for wrongdoing is indifference.
Or the argument can be made for the light and darkside of human nature.
You cant write off the bad, to do so is to give up on the good.
Its chaos, to say on a bad day. "Things could always be worse" they help yourself feel better, then by that logic at a suprise party someone you care about throws for you you can say "things could be better"
We're in the ebb and flow of human nature, and granted if you can get to the good side and stay, awesome.
But never should anyone be content in those darker parts.
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lovingdead · 36-40, M
@Pambie i agree 100%.
Nobody knows the facts. God/gods are unfathomable in their knowledge/power in most religions.
Science is facts.....untill we realize we werre wrong,get new data,etc,etc. T they're all placeholders in a story humanity is trying to write/chronicle.
In the meantime we need to live, so we might as well be decent to one another.
If people want to choose dawinism 100% evolution and all that then we're animals, marriage, peace, general decency need not apply. (Nobody takes their beluef that far) thus their belief is a security blanket.
If people believe in religion (only cherrypicking the rules they want already) but still claim to be devoted to (blank). Again is a security blanket. If people dont murder because god said, that doesnt make them good. If that was the case atheists would commit all the crimes.
We have large gaps in our understanding. (Not even counting the obscure or supernatural sort of things) (call it religions secrets, or yet to be understood science)
Thus the blank space fills with possibility, chances, both flowers and weeds.
Humans are an anomaly.
We have curiosity,look at the stars,map the human body, catalog trees, explore the blank spaces of our maps.
Its far less glamorous, but i think theres that same impulse to delve into ourselves. See what we can make, experience, grow within ourselves. We have a ridiculously large "toybox" of experiences, emotions, and feelings. No instruction manual or rulebook.
Many have negative aspects to them, but we're learning.
Ideally we're inovating and sharing as well.
Nobody knows the facts. God/gods are unfathomable in their knowledge/power in most religions.
Science is facts.....untill we realize we werre wrong,get new data,etc,etc. T they're all placeholders in a story humanity is trying to write/chronicle.
In the meantime we need to live, so we might as well be decent to one another.
If people want to choose dawinism 100% evolution and all that then we're animals, marriage, peace, general decency need not apply. (Nobody takes their beluef that far) thus their belief is a security blanket.
If people believe in religion (only cherrypicking the rules they want already) but still claim to be devoted to (blank). Again is a security blanket. If people dont murder because god said, that doesnt make them good. If that was the case atheists would commit all the crimes.
We have large gaps in our understanding. (Not even counting the obscure or supernatural sort of things) (call it religions secrets, or yet to be understood science)
Thus the blank space fills with possibility, chances, both flowers and weeds.
Humans are an anomaly.
We have curiosity,look at the stars,map the human body, catalog trees, explore the blank spaces of our maps.
Its far less glamorous, but i think theres that same impulse to delve into ourselves. See what we can make, experience, grow within ourselves. We have a ridiculously large "toybox" of experiences, emotions, and feelings. No instruction manual or rulebook.
Many have negative aspects to them, but we're learning.
Ideally we're inovating and sharing as well.
lovingdead · 36-40, M
@Pambie i loath how people try to use that argument for humans.
Especially when they use it wrong.
Police, guns, mobs of people, corporate greed. Every one of those is counter to the logic people try and use.
Especially when they use it wrong.
Police, guns, mobs of people, corporate greed. Every one of those is counter to the logic people try and use.
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
I think some people find it harder to act with conscience because they haven't had a good upbringing. If for example you were never taught right from wrong - and some people are not, they have parents who don't care- how would you learn how your actions affect other people? I also think comfort and safety has a lot to do with it. If people are trapped in a survival state because they never had their own basic needs met, they don't think about meeting the needs of others because self preservation comes first.
Mmiker · 46-50, M
I do agree with that. Plus it fuels life to have ambition to grow to be a better human.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
I would argue that being more natural would involve being less cruel and less greedy. Whenever I see people in touch with their natural selves they seem to be far more kind and generous. I think that the people who try to blame it on human nature are simply trying to justify their own unnatural behavior.
Humans are social animals. Our nature is to collaborate. The molding of our societies into hyper-competitive spaces is, I believe, the illness that breeds the cruelty.
Humans are social animals. Our nature is to collaborate. The molding of our societies into hyper-competitive spaces is, I believe, the illness that breeds the cruelty.
twistedrope · 26-30, M
Depends on context. My right and your right are not the same. As well, my wrong and your wrong.
I've worked in fields and made difficult decisions. I have avoided helping people outside my work obligations and the result was exposing others to danger. I have helped others outside regulation and been warned against it.
I will continue to make decisions where stakes grow and be called lazy, selfish and useless for prioritizing what I find important.
Human nature is what a person thinks is best at the time.The only difference here is scale and whoever notices. In my opinion
I've worked in fields and made difficult decisions. I have avoided helping people outside my work obligations and the result was exposing others to danger. I have helped others outside regulation and been warned against it.
I will continue to make decisions where stakes grow and be called lazy, selfish and useless for prioritizing what I find important.
Human nature is what a person thinks is best at the time.The only difference here is scale and whoever notices. In my opinion
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DMmeyourtits · 26-30, M
I find it hilarious how some people think this is about religion. Would we just be wild animals without 10 commandments? Is that really the only reason they behave, because god told them so?
AdmiralPrune · 46-50, M
Pure ego.
OogieBoogie · F
We all know the difference.
Its just we are in a catch 22 situation:
Society nurtures dark triad types, which breeds desperation in the masses.
And when desperate, its hard to have the luxury to stay ethical 🫤
Its just we are in a catch 22 situation:
Society nurtures dark triad types, which breeds desperation in the masses.
And when desperate, its hard to have the luxury to stay ethical 🫤