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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
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@cherokeepatti same here.
Petals · 51-55, F
@cherokeepatti I already did. It’s liberating. No side effects. I grew up in a third world country and learned the importance of vaccination early on. I don’t take my long term health for granted. So many young people with mild covid symptoms are now experiencing health problems. I know them and seen their struggles. It’s a fact. Being vaccinated feels liberating and I can move on with my life.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
These are the latest figures I have access to that indicate number of vaccinations and information about reactions to those vaccines. Given over 200 million vaccinations (needles) have been given it seems they are safe.
More than 281.4 million vaccine doses have been administered worldwide, equal to 3.7 doses for every 100 people. There is already a stark gap between vaccination programs in different countries, with many yet to report a single dose.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html
Like all new drugs, the vaccines that have been authorized to protect against Covid-19 come with some safety concerns and side effects. Many people who’ve received the shots have experienced fever, headache and pain at the site of the injection. These side effects generally disappear quickly. A handful of people who received vaccines during their testing stage experienced a form of temporary facial paralysis or weakness known as Bell’s palsy, although it’s not clear if the inoculations were to blame. A small number of vaccine recipients have had a serious, but treatable, allergic reaction, called anaphylaxis. A few countries have reported deaths following administration of Covid-19 vaccines, but medical specialists have found no evidence of a connection to the inoculations.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/what-to-know-about-vaccine-related-deaths-allergies-quicktake
More than 281.4 million vaccine doses have been administered worldwide, equal to 3.7 doses for every 100 people. There is already a stark gap between vaccination programs in different countries, with many yet to report a single dose.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html
Like all new drugs, the vaccines that have been authorized to protect against Covid-19 come with some safety concerns and side effects. Many people who’ve received the shots have experienced fever, headache and pain at the site of the injection. These side effects generally disappear quickly. A handful of people who received vaccines during their testing stage experienced a form of temporary facial paralysis or weakness known as Bell’s palsy, although it’s not clear if the inoculations were to blame. A small number of vaccine recipients have had a serious, but treatable, allergic reaction, called anaphylaxis. A few countries have reported deaths following administration of Covid-19 vaccines, but medical specialists have found no evidence of a connection to the inoculations.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/what-to-know-about-vaccine-related-deaths-allergies-quicktake
tindrummer · M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I intend to
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
@tindrummer that’s a good little test subject.. 👍
tindrummer · M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout you're always unpleasant aren't you?
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I have read that the flu shot is linked to certain autoimmune diseases. I got arthritis after having 3 shots 3 years in a row. Never took them since & they also triggered winter long paraflu and fatigue for the entire winter. Don’t take them, instead strengthen your immune system.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout So there IS a choice. We agree. 😀
ginnyfromtheblock · 26-30, F
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
The Vaccines for this virus have been pushed through way faster than ever achieved before. Part of that is due to the speed of information and computer driven lab processes. So its to be expected. But a couple of points concern me. First. Trump had a hand close to it. So all the usual care may NOT have been taken. Second, and this applies to all the Vaccines out there. These are first generation vaccines. Usully not as effective and maybe not as long lasting and subsequent products.
Having said that. Its what we have, so take it. I will be. But I will be looking for improvents in a year of two..😷
Having said that. Its what we have, so take it. I will be. But I will be looking for improvents in a year of two..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pianoplayingsteve I make no secret of my distaste for the man.. In this case, because of his history. He took control of the FDA, neutered the scientists and "promised" the vaccine into existence. So Pfizer and Moderna really have to be seen in that light. This is about the vaccines. Nothing else.😷
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@whowasthatmaskedman you have made it clear that you have distaste for the man. To such a stupid extent that you come up with such a ridiculous statement as ‘trump had a hand close to it. So usual care may not have been taken’. As if trump was sat there in the labs instructing the scientists on how to make a vaccine. The vaccines are made by medical professionals, at no point does a senator or president come in with an extended knowledge of biochemistry personally instructing people on how to make the vaccine.
I dislike both Trump and Biden but I’m not going to go to such childish extremes with virtue signaling my dislike for someone.
I dislike both Trump and Biden but I’m not going to go to such childish extremes with virtue signaling my dislike for someone.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pianoplayingsteve I have addressed your point.. Talk to the hand🤚.
Elessar · 26-30, M
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@Elessar if you assume so well you’re wrong my dear sugar plum. Very creative artwork. Oh that’s right sugar. I remembered you failed finger painting in kindergarten. Awww sugar plum it’s okay, I understand that you had to google image search of a 3 year olds artwork that probably looks better than your lack of talent let alone a purpose. It’s okay sweetheart xx
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@Elessar come on baby. Hope I didn’t break your pretty lil heart now.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@SW-User When you find yourself discussing with people whose brain size and capacity equates the one of a mosquito, memes come in handy.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
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Either way I don’t trust it, I’m not against anyone who has it, but as long as they don't enforce it’s on me, I gave loving proof reasons from experience with vaccines in the past and it’s enough for me to say no to it. I had a flu shot in 2018 and for the first time in my life, I have had a bed ridden flu, where as I only get tail end symptoms usually and can still soldier on. My genes have a naturally freakishly strong immune system and have a fast wound heal time.
Petals · 51-55, F
@SW-User I was like you. Would never catch the flu or the cold even if people were coughing and sneezing around me. Never broke a bone and then... I grew older and everything changed overnight. Yeap, it’s the common aging process. Nobody escapes it. I’m not trying to paint a grim picture cause getting older has its perks too, but reality is what it is and sometimes we have to think of the big picture. If people don’t get vaccinated, this pandemic will not end and more will suffer not only physically but emotionally
ExperienceDLT · M
ExperienceDLT · M
@carolinehugz well if they don't know i don't know who would 🤷♂️
carolinehugz · 46-50, F
@ExperienceDLT both myself and eldest daughter had irregular periods and their main advice was go on the pill. Trouble is loads of people have issues with it including depression which isn't formally recognised but can happen more than people admit.
ExperienceDLT · M
@carolinehugz only advice i know to give you is just go with your instincts if you feel it is unsafe then don't take it
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
From what little information they’ve made available to public so far it appears there’s no short term problems.
And if there are reactions to it, they appear to be things associated with having a shot in the arm.
Slight swelling at the injection point; usual discomfort associated with shots; some folk reporting a slight fever afterwards.
Bigger question for me is what effect accumulated doses over a period of time might be.
And if there are reactions to it, they appear to be things associated with having a shot in the arm.
Slight swelling at the injection point; usual discomfort associated with shots; some folk reporting a slight fever afterwards.
Bigger question for me is what effect accumulated doses over a period of time might be.
helensusanswift · 31-35, F
Yes. The numbers of affected and dying have fallen dramatically in Scotland and in the UK recently, due to a combination of the vaccine, masks and lockdown. The sooner everybody gets vaccinated, the quicker we can control this virus and get back to near-normality again.
I have heard so much nonsense spoken about the vaccine I don't know whether to cry at the ignorance or laugh at the stupidity of the world.
I have heard so much nonsense spoken about the vaccine I don't know whether to cry at the ignorance or laugh at the stupidity of the world.
TheSirfurryanimalWales · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift no one can say if side effects will appear several years down the line because there has not been the usual several years of study.
But I am scheduled to be jabbed next Saturday and am only going for it because I fear being banned from the things I enjoy( if they are ever allowed to resume) if I don’t.
And I will be extremely annoyed if vaccination does not lead to completely normality by early Summer.
But I am scheduled to be jabbed next Saturday and am only going for it because I fear being banned from the things I enjoy( if they are ever allowed to resume) if I don’t.
And I will be extremely annoyed if vaccination does not lead to completely normality by early Summer.
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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@SStarfish The movie might have seemed freaky but these people have a rule that they have to inform you in some way (popular culture or symbolism) of what they are planning and what they are and if we don’t catch it then basically it’s like we have given them informed consent. Some of those science fiction movies are actually based on truth even if they seem quirky.
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@cherokeepatti They Live is another movie worth watching.
carolinehugz · 46-50, F
So far the vaccines have been used on older people for obvious reasons but I presume they won't give it to pregnant younger people and if not should people of reproductive age have the new RNA one?
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@Elessar could you please explain that in proper English because I’m not that fluent with jibberish.
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@Elessar sugar plum?😘
Elessar · 26-30, M
@SW-User When you'll speak my native language fluently (or even just decently), I'll bother fixing my English. In my opinion that comment is perfectly understandable, provided you have a brain of course.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@Pretzel I know multiple people personally who have had severe reactions to the vaccine, lasting days.
If you are not extremely old, and/or extremely overweight with multiple conditions then you'll be fine. Though in all fairness, I think we need a bit more evolutionary pressure in society. I don't think that it's fair that I put a lot of time and money into my health, just to have to fund NHS treatment of someone who goes to Mcdonalds every day. If we adhered to the laws of nature, a heck of a lot of destructive behaviours would vanish very quickly.
I eat fresh vegetables and real meats, drink a lot of filtered water and exercise. And I've only ever gotten no more than a blocked nose every couple of years.
Looking at the research into Marek's disease and the effects of vaccinations on that, it seems these companies that profit from vaccines wish for the virus to mutate into deadlier forms, meaning more vaccines needing to be bought and used, which in turn makes deadlier strains mutate, infinite cycle of profits.
If you are not extremely old, and/or extremely overweight with multiple conditions then you'll be fine. Though in all fairness, I think we need a bit more evolutionary pressure in society. I don't think that it's fair that I put a lot of time and money into my health, just to have to fund NHS treatment of someone who goes to Mcdonalds every day. If we adhered to the laws of nature, a heck of a lot of destructive behaviours would vanish very quickly.
I eat fresh vegetables and real meats, drink a lot of filtered water and exercise. And I've only ever gotten no more than a blocked nose every couple of years.
Looking at the research into Marek's disease and the effects of vaccinations on that, it seems these companies that profit from vaccines wish for the virus to mutate into deadlier forms, meaning more vaccines needing to be bought and used, which in turn makes deadlier strains mutate, infinite cycle of profits.
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@pianoplayingsteve goes by the old saying. Pharmacists don’t create cures, they create customers. Unfortunate too many are too blind to see the pitch.
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TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
@SW-User lolz..
there’s a South Park ep like this comment.. 😁👍
there’s a South Park ep like this comment.. 😁👍
Elessar · 26-30, M
@carolinehugz As I said, both can't be 100% exclude. How would it be any better if, say, we'll discover 5 years from now that (a/symptomatic) covid survivors are likely to develop cancer? And it's not that much of an unlikely possibility, nor the first virus to have similar effects, think of HPV.
carolinehugz · 46-50, F
@Elessar it seems like scare tactics to me. People have cold and flu all the time and some worse than others and no one worried before.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@carolinehugz It seems scare tactics to talk about possible yet never observed side effects of mRMA technology to me.
Seasonal infections have never been caused by SARS-CoV-2 - simply because prior 2019, SARS-CoV-2 simply didn't exist.
It's all uncharted land.
Seasonal infections have never been caused by SARS-CoV-2 - simply because prior 2019, SARS-CoV-2 simply didn't exist.
It's all uncharted land.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
As far as we know. Trials were speedy but more people were working on this vaccine together and separately at one time than on almost any other vaccine before.
The methods of RNA vaccine are new (the idea is not totally new) but this is the first one.
Bottom line is that we can't know for certain but it is a personal choice.
I'm taking it because I travel across the country daily for work and my job has let me know that they wont assist me if I become ill.
The methods of RNA vaccine are new (the idea is not totally new) but this is the first one.
Bottom line is that we can't know for certain but it is a personal choice.
I'm taking it because I travel across the country daily for work and my job has let me know that they wont assist me if I become ill.
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AngelKrish · 26-30, M
Indian vaccine is safe ,our Prime minister Modi also got vaccinated. We even distributed lakhs of free vaccines to different countries globally as gift.
We are helping those countries who cannot afford it as well.
We are helping those countries who cannot afford it as well.
Donotfolowme · 51-55, F
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Many have their own views on it so do your research think clearly and think twice.
Iwillwait · M
Time will tell. As of now they're stating, "Yes."
Spoiledbrat · F
i read it only works for 4 months.🤔
okaybut · 56-60, M
Safer then lying in a military tent.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
I just spoke to my neighbor. He works in a care home so had to have the vaccine. He told me he had severe reactions for days, as did his co workers apparently. And apparently there was a non covid related death and apparently when one of the elderly patients who died of causes unrelated to covid, the mortician told him that he has never seen a period of less deaths in 14 years of service.