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swirlie I hearted it, which means I did understand. :) I do slightly disagree that one is incapable of giving to others or helping them, if they don't put themselves first. I never have put myself first, but constantly gave love, kindness, gifts, etc. to people all my life. However, It pays a DEAR price... b/c now I am very very burned OUT .. so now, I truly feel I can't give much anymore. (Especially emotionally). I really need to get it through my head that I matter, that is the key. I was taught every day of my life, that I didn't matter and was told, I had no 'right' to a voice, or to anything. It truly warped my mind over time, and yielded near ZERO esteem. My own parent once threatened to kill me, so this is the type of toxic identification I have, that I should barely even exist. So, you become a slave to hoping others don't immediately sense or somethow ALSO think you are worthless. (I'm finally seeing, it was their horrible Narcissism, which is incurable, that is to blame , Not that I AM worthless. )