Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Let us know when there is actual evidence, and not just bias and suspicion. 🤷♂
Once there is evidence, and you are right... then there will be nothing to be proud about, because the only thing you did was take a hypothesis for truth because of bias. And if you are wrong, then everyone in your camp has slandered a human being on the basis of that bias . So yeah... there is no good side for you here.🤷♂
Once there is evidence, and you are right... then there will be nothing to be proud about, because the only thing you did was take a hypothesis for truth because of bias. And if you are wrong, then everyone in your camp has slandered a human being on the basis of that bias . So yeah... there is no good side for you here.🤷♂
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@AthrillatheHunt I'm talking about bigotry, bigotry isn't confined to the right wing. The only person that brought in "right wing", is you Ahtrilla. Thanks for contributing nothing to this conversation, time to go back and sit on your fence.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Kwek00 You said far right politicians . I wouldn’t have mentioned far right if you didn’t . And sitting on a fence gives one a good view of both sides of the fence.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@AthrillatheHunt Before you answer... read the conversation again, and then tell me where I talked about the far-right in this conversation?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
helsbels · 31-35, F
@DeWayfarer You have poor reading comprehension and this is the last reply to you that I'll waste my time with 🤣
I don't dispute the fact of what you've posted, but none of that means he should be fighting against women! Women have XX chromosomes. He doesn't. He is a male, a man. Not a typical 'XY' man, maybe. But the presence of an extra chromosome doesn't make him a woman. His physical development after puberty, testosterone level, height, reach, power are all that of a man.
I don't dispute the fact of what you've posted, but none of that means he should be fighting against women! Women have XX chromosomes. He doesn't. He is a male, a man. Not a typical 'XY' man, maybe. But the presence of an extra chromosome doesn't make him a woman. His physical development after puberty, testosterone level, height, reach, power are all that of a man.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@helsbels She is not a male! You want to make her a male.
That is your own misconception!
You say you won't disagree. Yet you persist on going against what I replied.
That is your own misconception!
You say you won't disagree. Yet you persist on going against what I replied.
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
If she wants to be treated as a woman in general life, then I'm all for it. BUT eligibility for competition in sex-restricted sporting events should be based on a genetic foundation, not personal preference.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@iamthe99 Not a single remark I’ve read is transphobic. Trans is fine. Be who you want. However, being trans does not give you the right to compete as a biological woman. That infringes on their right to competitive fairness.
Furthermore, why is it always competition against women? Why do women have to always get the short end of the stick? Notice the argument isn’t ever about biological women transitioning to become “male” and competing against biological men. Why, because they’d lose. There’s an inherent flaw in a one sided argument.
Thus, it’s not transphobia. It’s biological women’s rights that’s at issue.
Furthermore, why is it always competition against women? Why do women have to always get the short end of the stick? Notice the argument isn’t ever about biological women transitioning to become “male” and competing against biological men. Why, because they’d lose. There’s an inherent flaw in a one sided argument.
Thus, it’s not transphobia. It’s biological women’s rights that’s at issue.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Adogslife You make too much sense to fit into today's PC world where individual "rights" or "beliefs" seem to HAVE to outweigh common sense or the rights of others.
AngelUnforgiven · 51-55, F
@Adogslife that part ☝
bijouxbroussard · F
It’s been said that she was born female or "assigned female" (not clear what that means). She has XY chromosomes which are considered male, but was born with female body parts ? I guess these questions could be answered; if she wants to continue to compete, she may have to forgo privacy concerns.
helsbels · 31-35, F
@bijouxbroussard Generally understood to mean a DSD, of which there are several types (that exclusively affect either men or women - meaning only men have one particular DSD, while a woman would have another). At birth he may have to all intents and purposes have been observed and recorded to be female, and even bought up as such, but it would have become evident at puberty that this was incorrect. I've said before I have sympathy, but the right thing to do is not take advantage of that by using it to endanger women.
And on your second point, absolutely. It's entirely non-invasive and conclusive. All other boxers will be undergoing the same, so it's not like he's been singled out.
And on your second point, absolutely. It's entirely non-invasive and conclusive. All other boxers will be undergoing the same, so it's not like he's been singled out.
helsbels · 31-35, F
@bijouxbroussard It can happen, read about Erik Schinegger who competed as Erika until he discovered he was genetically male (and immediately anounced this and stopped competing)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Schinegger
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Schinegger
iamthe99 · M
So many problems in the world, but Thank God one trans boxer is now not allowed to compete in a sport they have dedicated their whole lives to.
The world is a better place now.
The world is a better place now.
Thrust · 56-60, M
Aside from the topic, saying "I told you so" is one of my favorite pastimes
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HotPizza71 · 51-55, M
You always talk common sense ( but also, maybe,seek for an argument or two 👀😳😛😛😛😛,which you'd win!!!)x
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4meAndyou · F
@WillaKissing Exactly!
Thrust · 56-60, M
Men are not THAT much stronger than women
Speak for yourself nancy boy. You are not stronger than ANYONE