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Hate To Say I Told You So

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How odd, Imane Khelif has withdrawn from a boxing competition immediately after it announced that all competitors must have mandatory sex testing (administered via a cheek swab), to check eligibility in to their category 🤔

You'd think this boxer would welcome the chance to prove to the world 'she' is not a man.

https://apnews.com/article/imane-khelif-sex-test-olympics-eindhoven-61eaa44549854d6a0d33f11b42f91631
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

Yet everything is different.

And parrot fish just can go either way!

https://petshun.com/article/are-parrot-fish-hermaphrodites

This will one day be with people.
Just a matter of time before they figure it out.

Even we are all conceived as females.
helsbels · 31-35, F
@DeWayfarer You have poor reading comprehension and this is the last reply to you that I'll waste my time with 🤣

I don't dispute the fact of what you've posted, but none of that means he should be fighting against women! Women have XX chromosomes. He doesn't. He is a male, a man. Not a typical 'XY' man, maybe. But the presence of an extra chromosome doesn't make him a woman. His physical development after puberty, testosterone level, height, reach, power are all that of a man.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@helsbels She is not a male! You want to make her a male.

That is your own misconception!

You say you won't disagree. Yet you persist on going against what I replied.
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
If she wants to be treated as a woman in general life, then I'm all for it. BUT eligibility for competition in sex-restricted sporting events should be based on a genetic foundation, not personal preference.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@iamthe99 Not a single remark I’ve read is transphobic. Trans is fine. Be who you want. However, being trans does not give you the right to compete as a biological woman. That infringes on their right to competitive fairness.

Furthermore, why is it always competition against women? Why do women have to always get the short end of the stick? Notice the argument isn’t ever about biological women transitioning to become “male” and competing against biological men. Why, because they’d lose. There’s an inherent flaw in a one sided argument.

Thus, it’s not transphobia. It’s biological women’s rights that’s at issue.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Adogslife You make too much sense to fit into today's PC world where individual "rights" or "beliefs" seem to HAVE to outweigh common sense or the rights of others.
AngelUnforgiven · 51-55, F
@Adogslife that part ☝
It’s been said that she was born female or "assigned female" (not clear what that means). She has XY chromosomes which are considered male, but was born with female body parts ? I guess these questions could be answered; if she wants to continue to compete, she may have to forgo privacy concerns.
helsbels · 31-35, F
@bijouxbroussard Generally understood to mean a DSD, of which there are several types (that exclusively affect either men or women - meaning only men have one particular DSD, while a woman would have another). At birth he may have to all intents and purposes have been observed and recorded to be female, and even bought up as such, but it would have become evident at puberty that this was incorrect. I've said before I have sympathy, but the right thing to do is not take advantage of that by using it to endanger women.

And on your second point, absolutely. It's entirely non-invasive and conclusive. All other boxers will be undergoing the same, so it's not like he's been singled out.
helsbels · 31-35, F
@bijouxbroussard It can happen, read about Erik Schinegger who competed as Erika until he discovered he was genetically male (and immediately anounced this and stopped competing)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Schinegger
iamthe99 · M
So many problems in the world, but Thank God one trans boxer is now not allowed to compete in a sport they have dedicated their whole lives to.

The world is a better place now.
iamthe99 · M
@helsbels .Why don't you want scenarios like this? There was never a problem with Khelif in the first place. Khelif had competed in many competitions as a woman going back to 2018. It was never a problem. Why is it now? Has sport become too "woke" for you?
helsbels · 31-35, F
@iamthe99 Walk yourself through that question. Why would I not want women to get in to a boxing ring with men? 'It must be because I'm bigoted' 🙃

I'm starting to think you lot are just doing this for laughs
iamthe99 · M
@helsbels Look, the fact remains that she was born and registered female, and no evidence that she has XY chromosomes has been published. The only "new evidence" is fevered speculation.
Thrust · 56-60, M
Aside from the topic, saying "I told you so" is one of my favorite pastimes

😎
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Let us know when there is actual evidence, and not just bias and suspicion. 🤷‍♂

Once there is evidence, and you are right... then there will be nothing to be proud about, because the only thing you did was take a hypothesis for truth because of bias. And if you are wrong, then everyone in your camp has slandered a human being on the basis of that bias . So yeah... there is no good side for you here.🤷‍♂
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@AthrillatheHunt I'm talking about bigotry, bigotry isn't confined to the right wing. The only person that brought in "right wing", is you Ahtrilla. Thanks for contributing nothing to this conversation, time to go back and sit on your fence.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Kwek00 You said far right politicians . I wouldn’t have mentioned far right if you didn’t . And sitting on a fence gives one a good view of both sides of the fence.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@AthrillatheHunt Before you answer... read the conversation again, and then tell me where I talked about the far-right in this conversation?
HotPizza71 · 51-55, M
You always talk common sense ( but also, maybe,seek for an argument or two 👀😳😛😛😛😛,which you'd win!!!)x
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4meAndyou · F
@WillaKissing Exactly!
Thrust · 56-60, M
Men are not THAT much stronger than women

Speak for yourself nancy boy. You are not stronger than ANYONE
iamthe99 · M
@Thrust Cute insult 😁 Did you borrow it from your 1970s school bully or just your reflection this morning?
Thrust · 56-60, M
@iamthe99 sublime!

Once you put the 1000 pieces of your mirror back together, you too can see your relection again

 
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