Is god not going to reveal himself to me unless i blindly accept that he is just and good? [Spirituality & Religion]
I mean, how am i supposed to turn off the brain he ostensibly gave me? When i read about hardening pharaoh's heart so that he could show off his power or how he orders his chosen people to kill children by the thousands....how am i supposed to embrace that as the actions of a good and just being?
God is a man of war, a warrior and He'll do everything to protect those He love He is a God of armies "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live." Ezek
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God didn’t harden pharaohs heart. That was all on the pharao. It’s been quite awhile since I studied my bible but I remember the main stuff lol
Moses did as god commanded and told pharaoh to set the Hebrews free but pharaoh refused time and time again therefore his heart was hardened because he absolutely refused to set free the Hebrews as god commanded. If you want a better idea of how it all went down I highly recommend you watch the movie “the Ten Commandments” it’s 3 hours but it is fantastic! From 1956 or something but it’s color
@Pikachu and interesting except from an article I just read
“In all there are ten places where ‘hardening’ of Pharaoh is ascribed to God (4.21; 7.3; 9.12; 10.1, 20, 27; 11.10; 14.4, 8, 17). But it must be stated just as firmly that Pharaoh hardened his own heart in another ten passages (7.13, 14, 22; 8.15, 19, 32; 9.7, 34, 35; 13.15). Thus the hardening was as much Pharaoh’s own act as it was the work of God. Even more significant is the fact that Pharaoh alone was the agent of the hardening in the first sing and in all the first five plagues. Not until the sixth plague was it stated that God actually moved in and hardened Pharaoh’s heart (9.12), as he had warned Moses in Midian that he would have to do [4.21].”
@Pikachu that’s what I meant in one of my messages that god gave pharaoh a chance to obey before he punished him by hardening his heart. I believe I said if he did harden it and it appears you are indeed correct. I didn’t study exodus much
yes, god gave him a chance to obey...and then on other occasions he didn't with the [i][b]stated purpose[/b][/i] of showing everyone his power. And when that show of strength involves mass murder, i have a hard time accepting it as the actions of a jsut and loving being.
I didn't appreciate how you attempted to dismiss me by announcing that unlike myself, you had studied the bible for 14 years. I hope the fact that you misremembered the scripture will prevent you from making that boast again in place of an argument.
Pikachu, God [b]chooses us [/b] from the foundation of the world. But we have to be humble and repent. I am not sure exactly if we have to repent first or repentance is a result of salvation. Salvation is a miracle and a mystery. Most churches will say, accept Jesus and have faith. But many of those churches have backslidden, or no Christians in my opinion. When there is a heart change then it is life changing and permanent I believe.
Satan knows there is a God, and knows the Bible. But He thinks he is better than God and rebelled. Knowledge is one thing but being humble is another. We have to come to God as a humble sinner asking for forgiveness and realize Jesus died for you, rose from the dead, and proclaim that you have faith to someone and follow Him to be saved.
Why don’t you go to the new Testament to find out what God is like and how he reveals himself to people today? Why have you got this fetish for going to the old Testament when it is quite clear that God doesn’t reveal himself to people in that manner today? It seems to me you are always like the person who is trying to learn how to service a horse and cart when everyone else is driving around in a car
Know if you didn’t realise it to anyone who is educated or knows what they’re talking about you are embarrassing yourself. People are totally ignorant like yourself might think you’re smart but actually to anyone who actually knows anything you’re just appearing what of course you are is an inane fool asking inane questions of an infant. Here you are saying you’ve read the new Testament on a couple of occasions and you still don’t realise what anything is about. Some of us are trying to help you by telling you that it’s the new Testament you should be asking questions about yet you still obsess with obscure passages in the Old Testament. Yet you still plough away. It’s you who can’t help yourself . You seem to be Unable to accept help either from the gentler sort of person or from the person who is blunt like me@Pikachu
[quote]*foaming at the mouth* People are totally ignorant like yourself might think you’re smart but actually to anyone who actually knows anything you’re just appearing what of course you are is an inane fool asking inane questions of an infant[/quote]
It was done for good in the long run so it was worth the “collateral damage” I believe you are referring to the killing of every first born son but god sent the angel of death to do that not the Hebrews
