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Why would an all-powerful, omnipresent, omniscient god want lesser beings to worship and give offerings to him? [Spirituality & Religion]

That sounds like something a narcissistic sociopath would do.
Adstar · 56-60, M
Stop humanizing God.. God is a God not a human being.. So stop projecting human vanities upon Him..
Zenyatta · 26-30
@Carazaa This looks desolate to you?
Carazaa · F
@Zenyatta That's not the island Syrus by the way. That's built up not the island, don't believe everything you read. And compare to New York! Or San Diego or Los Angeles its not the wealthiest city in the world as it was and you missed my point, that God changes history according to his pleasure. Why don't you take Nineveh also as a good example. The city was going to be destroyed but its still there because God changed his mind because people prayed and repented. Other cities didn't repent, like Damascus, Sodom,and Gomorrah. Look at those cities. You do not understand the meaning of these stories if you cherry pick and take stories out of context!
Zenyatta · 26-30
@Carazaa Yes that is indeed the city of Tyre. Do you really hate facts this much that you have deny anything that contradicts your myth? It was prophesied that the Tyre would inhabitable yet theres a city here, you really need to reevaluate how you interpret scriptures especially when they are as clear as day and you still get this wrong
CelestiaStella · 22-25, F
Because he is a narcissistic sociopath not worthy of worship.
CelestiaStella · 22-25, F
@Carazaa you sick people have been saying this drooling nonsense for thousands of years. It's time to grow up and believe in *adult* fantasies.
Sharon · F
@Carazaa
He will show you one day when he comes in the clouds!
Yeah, yeah. Religious zealots have been saying that from day 1. It will never happen.

Every knee will bow!
Not a chance! You, however, will be on your knees before Odin!
Bushmanoz · 61-69, M
Hi @Carazaaif he is indeed going to show everyone one day, what is he waiting for? This isn't a gotcha question, I really want to know. I think roughly 60 million people a year die in the world, and that number increases, that's 60 million who don't know for certain there is a god, why not show himself and let them "bend the knee" before they die?
yeronlyman · 51-55, M
Because it’s all made up
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 All over this site. Despite all your blabbering and empty claims, you have never offered a single shred of real, independently verifiable, evidence that your god thing (that you call "yahewh" in case you've forgotten again) exists, other than in your imagination. In fact, you've even denied denied believing in it yourself on occasion.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Sharon
All over this site.

Your opinions and suppositions don't count as proof, Sharon.
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63
Your opinions and suppositions don't count as proof
Nor do yours but, unlike you, I offer real evidence and logical arguement based on verifiable facts.
LadyGrace · 70-79
First, I just want to humbly say that it saddens me to see that you said you turned from the Lord. One just can't go wrong following the Lord, but of course, that's up to you.

I say this lovingly. I wish you understood that there is no comparison between our knowledge and the great, infinite knowledge of God. We can't possibly begin to figure Him out, let alone, judge Him.

God is perfect. And though many get mad at Him and judge him wrongly, thinking they know better than God, He cannot err. He cannot sin. Though we don't understand everything about Him, we certainly don't have the authority to judge or blame Him, when He is incapable of lying or error.

If we want God to be fair to us, we must be fair to Him and not judge the One who created us. Since He is sinless, he is just in everything he does, in spite of our doubts. As our Creator, he deserves to be praised, because in spite of our rebellion...and we can see that throughout history our sinful nature...He still gave His very life to save us from the condemnation SIN brings on us. Though He was beaten and whipped to an unrecognizable pulp, what did He say to His Father in heaven as he hung suspended between heaven and earth? Father, FORGIVE THEM...for they know not what they DO!" He forgave and still loves us in spite of our sins, even his enemies who nailed Him to that cross. Does this sound like a man who is out to destroy you or cause you harm? No. It reeks of His everlasting, deepest love for us. He didn't HAVE to do that for us. But He DID. In fact, He volunteered. Please tell me who else would go through all that suffering for you, just to see that you wouldn't miss heaven? Nobody. We should be infinitely grateful to Him. No OTHER gods stepped up to do this!

Instead of everyone arguing about details here, each of us should be preparing to make sure we don't miss heaven, because no matter how long we all argue, His plans are not going to change, so we need to be busy preparing, because this is not a "maybe". It's a given that the Lord is about to come back and though we don't know exactly WHEN, that's all the MORE reason to prepare. He could come tonight and what if He did? Would you be ready? A wise man prepares for the future, and what we say here will mean nothing. "What shall it profit a man if he gains the world, but loses his own soul?" Prophecy always comes true. Every biblical prophecy TO DATE has come true. I've got the list if you want to see them. This should tell us that all future prophecies shall come true. We should all be getting ready to meet our Maker. There's no excuse that any should miss heaven, except for their own bull-headedness. Stubbornness.

There are things we just don't know and that's OK, because God helped us know the most important thing...how to have eternal life in heaven. God didn't destroy this world. Sin did. Sin always brings death and is THE ONLY THING which keeps us SEPARATED FROM GOD. So common sense tells us, we need to have our sins forgiven, and Jesus is our ticket to heaven. We'd be foolish to refuse a free ticket to heaven through the forgiveness of our sins. If Jesus hadn't come down from heaven and paid for our sins on the cross, we'd have ALL ended up in hell, because as it stands, our sins automatically separate us from God the Father. So...we need to come to our only Mediator between God and man...Jesus...and have our sins forgiven. What's so hard about receiving the free gift of salvation? Jesus did all the work, and it is HE that does all the saving, not man. There's no such thing as earning your way to heaven. Grace means UN-earned favor from God. You just come as you are. He turns no one away.
LadyGrace · 70-79
As for contradictions in the bible, readers of the Bible have long recognized, analyzed, and discussed these discrepancies, and have come to the important conclusion, that with some basic understanding of ancient languages, literature, history and the cultural context of that time period, along with careful bible study, it becomes apparent that these inconsistencies are not actually contradictions. This kind of problem is the most commonly found among critics of the Bible. They very often take verses out of context and set them against each other. Our Almighty, perfect God, did not hand down to us, flawed text.
Carazaa · F
He loves us and wants us to communicate with him. That's why he made us!
Carazaa · F
@Zenyatta Sounds like you have had some bad relationships! No God can be counted on to help us. But we can't be flakes, love him one day and talk bad about him the next. He is watching.
Zenyatta · 26-30
@Carazaa Majority of humanity has had bad relationships that’s literally apart of the human experience
Carazaa · F
@Zenyatta But not part of a relationship with God! We are kind of flakes but God isn't.
AnointedOne · 36-40, F
Would you rather think He didn't care about us?
Sigil · 56-60, M
@AnointedOne I don’t know that he does care about us. Show me where your god cares about anyone but himself.
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63
@AnointedOne is not talking about your gods,
Of course not, I don't have any gods for him to be talking about.

That yahweh thing you keep banging on about is just a figment of your imagination. Denying it won't change that fact.
Carazaa · F
@Sigil He's been very good to all of us! Try to be thankful for what you have!
Impossible to say, since you or I have never been an all-powerful, omnipresent, omniscient God. We really have no frame of reference as to what we would want.
Carazaa · F
@PrivateHell Very insightful!
Ingwe · F
He created us. He wants respect, obedience , like any father wants. He wants us to see only with His help will we become all that we're supposed to be. Father knows best.
Carazaa · F
@Ingwe Yes, God is slow to anger, and abounding in mercy!
Ingwe · F
@Carazaa Amen
Carazaa · F
@Ingwe 🙏💞
okaybut · 56-60, M
It mirrored the human power structure of the time. I am sure today, it would have been formed differently. However, with that said, yes he certainly has flaws.
Carazaa · F
@Bushmanoz
@okaybut
Jesus said that when the world has seen the signs of the last generation, and he told us what they are. Then he will come that generation. He wants everyone to hear and he gives warnings so we can repent. And we ARE that generation that sees all the signs.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
the creator created because that's what he loved to do. everything else is up for interpretation
Carazaa · F
usher · 41-45, F
Because all humans are potential Gods. We are all part of God and we have earned the right to worship and bear witness to his glorious universe.
Carazaa · F
@usher We are not gods!
usher · 41-45, F
@Carazaa I agree. I meant potential gods in a metaphorical way, in that we live forever with the real god in a harmonious state of existence. That's my belief
Answer: "God" began with the ET's. Thats how "humanity" started here except they were not human...

No wonder people ended up on their knees.
SW-User
Why do atheists ask questions aimed to mock rather than ask what they don’t understand? In my experience every atheists are either confusing scientific theories as scientific discoveries, or they are rebellious and don’t like being told some aspect in their life is harming their life so they deny existence all together.
SW-User
@Emosaur @Bushmanoz @QuixoticSoul I have said all I can say. I’m not here to argue
SW-User
@Emosaur @Bushmanoz @QuixoticSoul I have said all I can say the rest is up to your tolerance
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Zenyatta · 26-30
@SW-User Funny how you left out the rape part but don’t you find it pretty illogical the whole kill off humanity and nephilim thing? If he was truly an all powerful god then genocide wouldn’t have happened now would it? Also there’s the fact that archeology, zoology, paleontology ect that disproves the flood even happened. Plus there’s also this

Genesis
God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night,
on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the
sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). 1:3-5
God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the second day)
working on a solid firmament. This strange structure, which God calls
heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters.
This firmament, if it existed, would have been quite an obstacle to our
space program. 1:6-8
Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their
photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). 1:11
"He made the stars also." God spends a day making light (before making
the stars) and separating light from darkness; then, at the end of a
hard day's work, and almost as an afterthought, he makes the trillions
of stars. 1:16
"And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the
earth." Really? Then why are only a tiny fraction of stars visible from
earth? Under the best conditions, no more than five thousand stars are
visible from earth with the unaided eye, yet there are hundreds of
billions of stars in our galaxy and a hundred billion or so galaxies.
Yet this verse says that God put the stars in the firmament "to give
light" to the earth. 1:17
God commands us to "be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth,
and subdue it: and have dominion over ... every living thing that moveth
upon the earth." This verse is used to justify Christian opposition to
birth control, to concern for the environment, and to animal rights. The
earth was made for humans, and they can do as they damn well please with
it. 1:28
All animals were originally herbivores. Tapeworms, vampire bats,
mosquitoes, and barracudas -- all were strict vegetarians, as they were
created by God. But, of course, we now know that there were carnivorous
animals millions of years before humans existed. 1:30
God makes the animals and parades them before Adam to see if any would
strike his fancy. But none seem to have what it takes to please him.
(Although he was tempted to go for the sheep.) After making the animals,
God has Adam name them all. The naming of several million species must
have kept Adam busy for a while. 2:18-20
God's clever, talking serpent. 3:1
God walks and talks (to himself?) in the garden, and plays a little hide
and seek with Adam and Eve. 3:8-11
God curses the serpent. From now on the serpent will crawl on his belly
and eat dust. One wonders how he got around before -- by hopping on his
tail, perhaps? But snakes don't eat dust, do they? 3:14
God curses the ground and causes thorns and thistles to grow. 3:17-18
God kills some animals and makes some skin coats for Adam and Eve. 3:21
Cain is worried after killing Abel and says, "Every one who finds me
shall slay me." This is a strange concern since there were only two
other humans alive at the time -- his parents! 4:14
"And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD." 4:16
"And Cain knew his wife." That's nice, but where the hell did she come
from? 4:17
Lamech kills a man and claims that since Cain's murderer would be
punished sevenfold, whoever murders him will be punished seventy-seven
fold. That sounds fair. 4:23-24
God created a man and a woman, and he "called their name Adam." So the
woman's name was Adam, too! 5:2
The first men had incredibly long lifespans. 5:5, 5:8, 5:11, 5:14, 5:17,
5:20, 5:23, 5:27, 5:31, 9:29
The "sons of God" copulated with the "daughters of men," and had sons
who became "the mighty men of old, men of renown." 6:2-4
"There were giants in the earth in those days." 6:4
God decides to kill all living things because the human imagination is
evil. Later (8:21), after he kills everything, he promises never to do
it again because the human imagination is evil. Go figure. 6:5
God repents. 6:6-7
God was angry because "the earth was filled with violence." But didn't
God create the whole bloody system in the first place? Predator and
prey, parasite and host -- weren't they all designed by God? Oh, it's
true that according to 1:30 God originally intended the animals to be
vegetarian. But later (3:18) he changed all that. Still, the violence
that angered God was of his own making. So what was he upset about? And
how would killing everything help to make the world less violent? Did he
think the animals would behave better after he "destroys them with the
earth"? I guess God works in mysterious ways. 6:11-13
God tells Noah to make one small window (18 inches square) in the 450
foot ark for ventilation. 6:16
Noah, the just and righteous. 6:9, 7:1
Noah, the drunk and naked. 9:20-21
God opens the "windows of heaven." He does this every time it rains.
7:11
"The windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was

restrained." This happens whenever it stops raining. 8:2
Noah sends a dove out to see if there was any dry land. But the dove
returns without finding any. Then, just seven days later, the dove goes
out again and returns with an olive leaf. But how could an olive tree
survive the flood? And if any seeds happened to survive, they certainly
wouldn't germinate and grow leaves within a seven day period. 8:8-11
Noah kills the "clean beasts" and burns their dead bodies for God.
According to 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all "clean"
animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. "And the Lord
smelled a sweet savor." After this God "said in his heart" that he'd
never do it again because "man's heart is evil from his youth." So God
killed all living things (6:5) because humans are evil, and then
promises not to do it again (8:21) because humans are evil. The mind of
God is a frightening thing. 8:20-21
According to this verse, all animals fear humans. Although it is true
that many do, it is also true that some do not. Sharks and grizzly
bears, for example, are generally much less afraid of us than we are of
them. 9:2
"Into your hand are they (the animals) delivered." God gave the animals
to humans, and they can do whatever they please with them. This verse
has been used by bible believers to justify all kinds of cruelty to
anmials and environmental destruction. 9:2
All animals have hands. 9:5
"Be ye fruitful, and multiply." With 6 billion people on this planet, we
need to disobey God on this one. 9:7
God is rightly filled with remorse for having killed his creatures. He
makes a deal with the animals, promising never to drown them all again.
He even puts the rainbow in the sky so that whenever he sees it, it will
remind him of his promise so that he won't be tempted to do it again.
(Every time God sees the rainbow he says to himself: "Oh, yeah....
That's right. I promised not to drown the animals again. I guess I'll
have to find something else to do."). 9:9-13
The entire tenth chapter is the first of many boring genealogies (see 1
Chr.1-9, Mt.1:1-17, Lk.3:23-28 for other examples) that we are told to
avoid in 1 Tim.1:4 and Tit.3:9 ("Avoid foolish questions and
genealogies.") 10:1-32
God worries that people could actually build a tower high enough to
reach him (them?) in heaven. 11:4
God is worried again. He remembers how humans nearly became gods by
finding and eating from the tree of life (Gen.3:22). It was a close
call, but now he faces a similar threat. He begins talking to himself
again saying, "Behold, the people is one, and they all have one
language." He fears that "now nothing will be restrained from them,
which they have imagined to do." 11:6
Another boring genealogy that we are told to avoid in 1 Tim.1:4 and
Tit.3:9. ("Avoid foolish questions and genealogies.") Also note the

ridiculously long lives of the patriarchs. 11:10-32
Poor Pharaoh couldn't resist the "very fair" Sarai, and he takes her
into his harem. (She must have been well preserved, since she was about
seventy years old at the time.) 12:15
The Amalekites were smitten before Amalek (from whom they descended) was
born. Amalek was the grandson of Esau (Gen.36:12). 14:7
Abraham circumcises himself and all of the males in his household. Since
he supposedly had 318 slaves back in 14:14, poor old Abe must have been
pretty busy with his knife. But it was worth it. Penises are supremely
important to God. And he can't stand foreskins. 17:23-24
Sarah, who is about 90 years old and has gone through menopause, laughs
at God when he tells her that she will have a son. She asks God if she
will "have pleasure" with her "Lord" [Abraham], when both are so very
old. God assures her that he will return and impregnate her at the
appointed time. 18:11-14
God, who is planning another mass murder, is worried that Abraham might
try to stop him. so he asks himself if he should hide his intentions
from Abraham. 18:17
"And the Lord went his way." Now where might that be? 18:33
Lot [the just and righteous (2 Pet.2:7-8)] offers his daughters to a
crowd of angel rapers. 19:8
Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt.
19:26
Lot and his daughters camp out in a cave for a while. The daughters get
their "just and righteous" father drunk, and have sexual intercourse
with him, and each conceives and bears a son (wouldn't you know it!).
Just another wholesome family values Bible story. 19:30-38
"The Lord visited Sarah" and he "did unto Sarah as he had spoken." And
"Sarah conceived and bare Abraham a son." (God-assisted conceptions
never result in daughters.) 21:1-2
These verses suggest that Ishmael was an infant when his father
abandoned him, yet according to Gen.17:25 and Gen.21:5-8 he must have
been about 16 years old. It must have been tough for poor Hagar to carry
Ishmael on her shoulder and to then "cast him under one of the shrubs."
21:14-18
Abraham names the place where he nearly kills Isaac after Jehovah. But
according to Ex.6:3, Abraham couldn't have known that God's name was
Jehovah. 22:14
God swears to himself. 22:16
Abraham needed God's help to father Isaac when he was 100 years old
(Gen.21:1-2, Rom.4:19, Heb.11:12). But here, when he is even older, he
manages to have six more children without any help from God. 25:2

Abraham lived to be 175 years old. 25:7
Ishmael lived 137 years. 25:17
Isaac's wife (Rebekah), like his mother (Sarah), was also barren. 25:21
Jacob names Bethel for the first time 28:19, before meeting Rachel.
Later in 35:15, just before Rachel dies, he names Bethel again. (I guess
the name didn't take the first time.)
Jacob goes in unto Leah by mistake. 29:23, 25
"And Jacob went in unto her. And Bilhah conceived, and bare Jacob a
son." (These arrangements never seem to produce daughters.) 30:4
Leah, not to be outdone, gives Jacob her maid (Zilpah) "to wife." And
Zilpah "bare Jacob a son." 30:9
Rachel trades her husband's favors for some mandrakes. And so, when
Jacob cam home, Leah said: "Thou must come in unto me, for surely I have
hired thee with my son's mandrakes. And he lay with her that night."
Presumably God, by telling us this edifying story, is teaching us
something about sexual ethics. 30:15-16
And finally, "God remembered Rachel ... and opened her womb. And she
conceived and bare a son [surprise, surprise]." 30:22
Laban learns "by experience" that God has blessed him for Jacob's sake.
"By experience" means "by divination", at least that is how most other
versions translate this verse. 30:27
God renames Jacob for the first time (See 35:10 for the first renaming).
God says that Jacob will henceforth be called Israel, but the Bible
continues to call him Jacob anyway. And even God himself calls him Jacob
in 46:2. 30:28
Jacob displays his (and God's) knowledge of biology by having goats
copulate while looking at streaked rods. The result is streaked baby
goats. 30:37-39
Jacob wrestles with god and wins. God changes Jacob's name to Israel to
signify that he wrestled with God and "prevailed." 32:24-30
Isaac lives to be 180. 35:28
Chapter 36 presents another boring genealogy that we are told to avoid
in 1 Tim.1:4 and Tit.3:9 ("Avoid foolish questions and genealogies.")
36:1-43
"And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite ... and he took
her, and went in unto her. And she conceived, and bare a son; and she
called his name Er. And she conceived again [I guess Judah must have
went in unto her again] and bare a son; and she called hi name Onan."
(It seems that the probability of having a biblical daughter is
considerably less than 50%.) 38:2-4
Joseph and his magic divining cup. 44:5, 15
Jacob lives to be 147. 47:28

Exodus
The Israelite population went from 70 (or 75) to several million in a
few hundred years. 1:5,7, 12:37, 38:26
God shows Moses some tricks that he says are sure to impress. First:
Throw your rod on the ground; it will become a snake. 4:2-9
Then grab the snake by the tail and it will become a rod again. 4:4
Second: Make your hand appear leprous, and then cure it. 4:6-7
Then, if these two don't do the trick, pour water on the ground and it
will turn into blood. (That ought to do it!) 4:2-9
God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised.
Luckily for Moses, his Egyptian wife Zipporah "took a sharp stone, and
cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said,
Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he [God] let him go." This
story shows the importance of penises to God, and his hatred of
foreskins. 4:24-26
God says that Abraham didn't know that his name was Jehovah. Yet in
Gen.22:14 Abraham names the place where he nearly kills Isaac after
God's name, Jehovah. 6:3
In complaining about his difficulty with public speaking, Moses says,
"Behold I am of uncircumcised lips." Maybe he should join Toastmasters.
6:12, 6:30
God tells Moses and Aaron that when Pharaoh asks for a miracle just
throw your rod down and it will become a serpent. So when the time
comes, Moses throws down his rod and it becomes a serpent. But the
Egyptian magicians duplicate this trick. Luckily, for Aaron, his snake
swallows theirs. (Whew!) 7:9-13
After the rod to serpent trick, God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the
river and turn it into blood. This is the first of the famous 10 plagues
of Egypt. Unfortunately, the magicians know this trick too, and they do
so with their enchantments. Shucks! Just how the river could be turned
to blood by the Egyptian sorcerers after it had been turned to blood by
Moses and Aaron is not explained. 7:17-24
The second plague is frogs. Frogs covered the land. They were all over
the beds and filled the ovens. But the Egyptian magicians did this trick
too. (Did they wait until the frogs cleared out from the last
performance before doing it again?) After the frog making contest was
declared a draw, all the frogs died and "they gathered them together
upon heaps; and the land stank." I bet. But at least it was all for the
greater glory of God. 8:2-7
Plague #3 is lice in man and beast. This is the first trick that the
magicians couldn't do. After this the magicians were convinced that
Moses and Aaron's plagues were done by "the finger of God," and they
gave up trying to match the remaining seven plagues. I guess lice are
harder to make than frogs. 8:17-19
The fourth plague is swarms of flies, continuing the frogs and lice

theme. 8:21
The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:6
But a little later (9:19-20, 12:29), God kills them again a couple more
times.
The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast.9:9-12
The seventh plague is hail. "And the hail smote throughout the land of
Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast." 9:22-25
Eighth plague: locusts that are so thick that they "covered the face of
the whole earth." (Even over Antarctica?) 10:4-5
Ninth plague: three days of darkness. The darkness was so this that the
Egyptians couldn't even see each other. But the darkness knew how to
avoid the Israelites, and so "all the children of Israel had light in
their dwellings." 10:21-23
The Egyptians chased after the Israelites with "all Pharaoh's horses."
But according to Ex.9:3-6 there wouldn't have been any horses, since God
killed them all in "a very grievous murrain." 14:23
God removes the wheels from the Egyptians' chariots. 14:25
God divided the sea with a "blast of [his] nostrils." 15:8
God stands on a rock and tells Moses to hit the rock. Then water comes
out of it for the people to drink. God's such a clever guy! 17:6
As long as Moses the magician keeps his hand up, the Israelites are
successful in battle, but the second his hand falls, they start getting
beat. So when Moses' arm gets tired, Aaron props it up so that the
Amalakites get slaughtered. 17:11-12
"The Lord has sworn [God swears!] that the Lord will have war with
Amalek from generation to generation." So God is still fighting Amalek.
I hope Moses can still keep his hand up. 17:14-16
God tells the priests not to go up the steps to the altar "that thy
nakedness not be discovered thereon." (Skirts on stairs are a problem.)
20:26
"Thou shalt not seethe a kid in a kid in his mother's milk." 23:19
God has hornets that bite and kill people.23:27-28
God has feet.24:10
Six chapters are wasted on divine instructions for making tables,
candlesticks, snuffers, etc. 25 - 30
God decrees that priestly garments, girdles, and bonnets shall be made
"for glory and beauty." 28:2, 20, 40
Aaron must where a bell whenever he enters "the holy place" or God will
kill him. 28:34-35
God gives instructions for making priestly breeches. "And thou shalt
make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even

unto the thighs shall they reach." 28:42
God instructs the priests to burn the dung of bullocks outside the camp
as a sin offering. 29:14
God tells Moses to kill a ram and put the blood on the tip of Aaron's
right ear, and on his right thumb, and on his right big toe, and then
sprinkle the blood around the altar. Finally, sprinkle some on Aaron and
his sons and on their garments. This will make them "hallowed." 29:20-21
God tells Aaron and his sons to take the rump, fat, caul, kidneys, and
right shoulder of the ram and add a loaf of bread or two, and a wafer of
unleavened bread. Then they put the whole mess in the hands of Aaron and
his sons and they wave them before the Lord. This is a wave offering.
29:22-24
And whoever uses God's favorite perfume will be exiled. 30:37-38
God's finger. 31:18
Although God is too shy to let Moses see his face, he does permit a peek
at his "back parts." (The divine mooning) 33:23
God's name is Jealous. 34:14
Leviticus
God gives detailed instructions for performing ritualistic animal
sacrifices. such bloody rituals must be important to God, judging from
the number of times that he repeats their instructions. Indeed the
entire first nine chapters of Leviticus can be summarized as follows:
Get an animal, kill it, sprinkle the blood around, cut the dead animal
into pieces, and burn it for a "sweet savor unto the Lord." Chapters 1 -
9
When you are making your animal sacrifices, be sure to remember that
"all the fat is the Lord's." God loves blood and guts, but most
especially fat. And he doesn't like to share! 3:16
"If a soul shall sin through ignorance...." But how can someone "sin
through ignorance?" Don't your have to at least know that an act is
wrong before it can be sinful? 4:2, 13, 22, 27
If you touch any unclean thing (like a dead cow
Zenyatta · 26-30
@SW-User It’s whatever dude
SW-User
@Zenyatta pm me anytime or we can keep the thread going on here it doesn’t matter to me
Pfuzylogic · M
@Zenyatta Scripture is a wonderful teaching tool but somehow I feel you just copied and pasted without understanding a bit of it.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
If you think God is love, You are not familiar with his work!!
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 This is unusually retarded even for you smh

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@QuixoticSoul Wow you are getting paranoid. Must be because you don't have a legitimate answer. Oh well it is a case of mind over matter. You don't have a mind so it doesn't matter.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 It's not paranoia, it's the simple truth.

Carazaa · F
Blessings for Obedience, Gods promise in Deutoronomy 28

28 “If you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, if you obey the voice of the Lord your God. 3 Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the field. 4 Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground and the fruit of your cattle, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock. 5 Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. 6 Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.

7 “The Lord will cause your enemies who rise against you to be defeated before you. They shall come out against you one way and flee before you seven ways. 8 The Lord will command the blessing on you in your barns and in all that you undertake. And he will bless you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you. 9 The Lord will establish you as a people holy to himself, as he has sworn to you, if you keep the commandments of the Lord your God and walk in his ways. 10 And all the peoples of the earth shall see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of you. 11 And the Lord will make you abound in prosperity, in the fruit of your womb and in the fruit of your livestock and in the fruit of your ground, within the land that the Lord swore to your fathers to give you. 12 The Lord will open to you his good treasury, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season and to bless all the work of your hands. And you shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow. 13 And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail, and you shall only go up and not down, if you obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you today, being careful to do them, 14 and if you do not turn aside from any of the words that I command you today, to the right hand or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them.

Curses for Disobedience

15 “But if you will not obey the voice of the Lord your God or be careful to do all his commandments and his statutes that I command you today, then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you. 16 Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock. 19 Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.

20 “The Lord will send on you curses, confusion, and frustration in all that you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and perish quickly on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken me. 21 The Lord will make the pestilence stick to you until he has consumed you off the land that you are entering to take possession of it. 22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease and with fever, inflammation and fiery heat, and with drought[a] and with blight and with mildew. They shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And the heavens over your head shall be bronze, and the earth under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will make the rain of your land powder. From heaven dust shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

25 “The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You shall go out one way against them and flee seven ways before them. And you shall be a horror to all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 And your dead body shall be food for all birds of the air and for the beasts of the earth, and there shall be no one to frighten them away. 27 The Lord will strike you with the boils of Egypt, and with tumours and scabs and itch, of which you cannot be healed. 28 The Lord will strike you with madness and blindness and confusion of mind, 29 and you shall grope at noonday, as the blind grope in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways.[b] And you shall be only oppressed and robbed continually, and there shall be no one to help you. 30 You shall betroth a wife, but another man shall ravish her. You shall build a house, but you shall not dwell in it. You shall plant a vineyard, but you shall not enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you shall not eat any of it. Your donkey shall be seized before your face, but shall not be restored to you. Your sheep shall be given to your enemies, but there shall be no one to help you. 32 Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, while your eyes look on and fail with longing for them all day long, but you shall be helpless. 33 A nation that you have not known shall eat up the fruit of your ground and of all your labours, and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually, 34 so that you are driven mad by the sights that your eyes see. 35 The Lord will strike you on the knees and on the legs with grievous boils of which you cannot be healed, from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head.

36 “The Lord will bring you and your king whom you set over you to a nation that neither you nor your fathers have known. And there you shall serve other gods of wood and stone. 37 And you shall become a horror, a proverb, and a byword among all the peoples where the Lord will lead you away. 38 You shall carry much seed into the field and shall gather in little, for the locust shall consume it. 39 You shall plant vineyards and dress them, but you shall neither drink of the wine nor gather the grapes, for the worm shall eat them. 40 You shall have olive trees throughout all your territory, but you shall not anoint yourself with the oil, for your olives shall drop off. 41 You shall father sons and daughters, but they shall not be yours, for they shall go into captivity. 42 The cricket[c] shall possess all your trees and the fruit of your ground. 43 The sojourner who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. 44 He shall lend to you, and you shall not lend to him. He shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.

45 “All these curses shall come upon you and pursue you and overtake you till you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes that he commanded you. 46 They shall be a sign and a wonder against you and your offspring for ever. 47 Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joyfulness and gladness of heart, because of the abundance of all things, 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger and thirst, in nakedness, and lacking everything. And he will put a yoke of iron on your neck until he has destroyed you. 49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the end of the earth, swooping down like the eagle, a nation whose language you do not understand, 50 a hard-faced nation who shall not respect the old or show mercy to the young. 51 It shall eat the offspring of your cattle and the fruit of your ground, until you are destroyed; it also shall not leave you grain, wine, or oil, the increase of your herds or the young of your flock, until they have caused you to perish.

52 “They shall besiege you in all your towns, until your high and fortified walls, in which you trusted, come down throughout all your land. And they shall besiege you in all your towns throughout all your land, which the Lord your God has given you. 53 And you shall eat the fruit of your womb, the flesh of your sons and daughters, whom the Lord your God has given you, in the siege and in the distress with which your enemies shall distress you. 54 The man who is the most tender and refined among you will begrudge food to his brother, to the wife he embraces,[d] and to the last of the children whom he has left, 55 so that he will not give to any of them any of the flesh of his children whom he is eating, because he has nothing else left, in the siege and in the distress with which your enemy shall distress you in all your towns. 56 The most tender and refined woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because she is so delicate and tender, will begrudge to the husband she embraces,[e] to her son and to her daughter, 57 her afterbirth that comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears, because lacking everything she will eat them secretly, in the siege and in the distress with which your enemy shall distress you in your towns.

58 “If you are not careful to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, the Lord your God, 59 then the Lord will bring on you and your offspring extraordinary afflictions, afflictions severe and lasting, and sicknesses grievous and lasting. 60 And he will bring upon you again all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you. 61 Every sickness also and every affliction that is not recorded in the book of this law, the Lord will bring upon you, until you are destroyed. 62 Whereas you were as numerous as the stars of heaven, you shall be left few in number, because you did not obey the voice of the Lord your God. 63 And as the Lord took delight in doing you good and multiplying you, so the Lord will take delight in bringing ruin upon you and destroying you. And you shall be plucked off the land that you are entering to take possession of it.

64 “And the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 And among these nations you shall find no respite, and there shall be no resting-place for the sole of your foot, but the Lord will give you there a trembling heart and failing eyes and a languishing soul. 66 Your life shall hang in doubt before you. Night and day you shall be in dread and have no assurance of your life. 67 In the morning you shall say, ‘If only it were evening!’ and at evening you shall say, ‘If only it were morning!’ because of the dread that your heart shall feel, and the sights that your eyes shall see. 68 And the Lord will bring you back in ships to Egypt, a journey that I promised that you should never make again; and there you shall offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but there will be no buyer.”
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Carazaa There are consequences because of our laws. How does God punish people in their mortal life?
Bushmanoz · 61-69, M
@Carazaa
If you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, if you obey the voice of the Lord your God. 3 Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the field. 4 Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground and the fruit of your cattle, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock. 5 Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. 6 Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.
It's almost like the good lord couldn't imagine the type of future that we have now.
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SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
You’re talkin’ about Trump aren’t you? 🤭
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@Zenyatta are you sure? I would say the religious god has a lot of mental issues
Zenyatta · 26-30
@SW-User lmao but is he fat
SW-User
@Zenyatta well it doesn't say anywhere dat he's slim. He may very well be
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
The false premise you have is you think worship and offerings is for God's benefit. Here is a hint. It isn't.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Pfuzylogic
You removed a comment

I have already told you that I did no such thing. You claim a removal that you cannot demonstrate, and which would have left easily demonstrable evidence, yet you still refer to as though it were real.

You now seem to have amended your original claim to one of editing to achieve removal of a sentence (seriously, how trivial can you be?), yet cannot specify the thrust of the original sentence (even as a paraphrase).

Are there to be further fabrications, or are you done for now?

I take it this has once again been a case of doing anything to avoid the topic at hand.

Tedious
Bushmanoz · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 Come on, you don't really expect him to provide evidence for anything do you?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pfuzylogic You know we can all see the timestamps, right? Her comment was edited the same minute it was posted, more than half an hour before you responded to her.

Not looking all that good, dude.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
Nothing more than a mechanism for control & wealth creation.
Bordering on child abuse! 🤷‍♀️
Pfuzylogic · M
Any sane person with a healthy fear of God knows what worship is. You are missing the mark because you are blind.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pfuzylogic Hey, you brought up a particular set of fossils, not me 🤷‍♂️

Sorry things didn't go your way.
Pfuzylogic · M
@QuixoticSoul
You convinced yourself.
I praise God for a sane, whole mind that doesn’t follow the tales of men.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pfuzylogic k, I don't really care

But
healthy fear of God
is still pretty funny.
helenS · 36-40, F
The idea of an almighty god wanting to be worshipped is archaic and should be abandoned. It belongs into the dustbin of history. We have outgrown that.
@helenS Definitely look into the story of Zeus. You'll find one more.
Sharon · F
@helenS
We have outgrown that.
Some of us have, obviously not all. :(
helenS · 36-40, F
@Amyrakunejo God is in the way of spirituality.
SW-User
It won’t stop till people start to think for themselves and realise that God is consciousness, and not a deity to be worshipped
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@AgapeLove notice how i used "really" in a sentence. It's a reality that I do not understand why you find it hard to understand.
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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@AgapeLove Music is real. Good is an opinion hence it is not real. You can think it's good, and then you can say that it's reality that you think it's good, but that doesn't make the music good.
LadyGrace · 70-79
But then we don't think like God, either. Nor can we figure everything out about Him with our limited understanding. That's why this all-powerful, omnipresent, omniscient God told us not to lean on our own feeble understanding when it comes to Him, or to judge Him. Who are WE to judge such a magnificent God?

Who is He, indeed!! God is love. God’s love is so great that He gave His only Son to bring us into fellowship with Him. God’s love not only encompasses the world, but embraces each of us personally and intimately.

—1 John 4:7-10

God is Jehovah-jireh. This name means “the God who provides.” Just as He provided yesterday, He will also provide today and tomorrow. He grants deliverance from sin, joy for the ashes of sorrow, and eternal citizenship in His Kingdom for all those adopted into His household. I'd say those alone, MORE THAN QUALIFY Him to deserve our worship. Without Him, we would ALL end up in Hell. No man in history suffered so horribly and so unmercifully because of our sins, just so we could have eternal life in heaven. He not only said He loves us. He proved it! And He still called us His FRIEND. Could you?
😞
suchaslife · F
It seems God has good reason to think of himself as the greatest conceivable being, because he is, in fact, that. He desires the praise and worship of every man and woman without exception.Not only is God the greatest thing to exist in reality and thus more than just the greatest idea ever conceived but he is also unlimited in his greatness, whether he creates or not.
God plus the world (and God plus any creature) is not greater than God alone. This means that when the Creator creates, he doesn’t do it for his own increase in greatness; he acts purely out of love. Our existence is a gift, and gratitude ought to be our response.
A narcissist has an exaggerated sense of self-importance and, thus, suffers from delusion. A person who understands himself as “the greatest conceivable being” may well be called morally corrupt and, perhaps, insane. He is in error and sees the world or wants the world to see him in a way that is not in accord with reality but a person who understands himself to be “the greatest conceivable being” and is that sees what is really and truly there. He sees reality as it truly is and “to see what truly is” is the measure of sanity. One can hardly fault God for his sanity.
If God is bad, a lot of people are wrong and omg....

Hahaha
LadyGrace · 70-79
@suchaslife You hit the nail right on the head!! Exactly!!! All true! Amen, sister!!
Why have kids if you just let them sit around and do nothing all day? They need to learn the value of life.
@Harriet03 And that they don't have Free Will when they most certainly do.
@QuixoticSoul i love that Marley quote, thanks
Carazaa · F
@QuixoticSoul God wants us to treat everyone the same, with love and caring! Even those who have intentionally hurt us!
AnonymousJSS · 22-25, F
Because (if he exists) he has the mindset of a 5 year old child. Lol, why create people, give them “free will”, and then get extremely upset and punish them with eternal hell when they don’t do what you want? Doesn’t he know everything? He’d know that people would do what they want... why’d he create us then? 🤔 Not only is God narcissistic and forces people to love him, but he also has very bad anger issues.
Ah well, all that is way too much for any logical person to believe in.
Thank god (hehe) he’s not actually real.
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The mass murder by flood for doing it wrong seems to really reinforce that interpretation.
The Divine Twenty-Four are not like this, since their only task is to keep all of existence in balance. They want everyone to live lives as they wish to.

It is true that there are people who revere them, who pay their respects to them, but this a voluntary act.

May the Divines guide everyone...
SW-User
@Amyrakunejo skyrim?
@SW-User In Skyrim, there are nine Divines, or eight if you're a foolhardy follower of the White-Gold Concordat.

Anyway, 'divine' is the closest English word for "Saeryan'fanera", which is Parolian (my native tongue) and is used to describe the exact role of these twenty-four non-mortals, to keep all of existence in balance, but 'Balancing Twenty-Four' sounds more like the name of a circus act.
SW-User
@Amyrakunejo interesting
Abstraction · 61-69, M
Another straw man. If you want to debate something, you should counter the best argument of the person you disagree with, rather than shallow caricatures. This demonstrates you actually grasp what you disagree with.
Sharon · F
@Carazaa
If you are not Christian you are a slave to sin.
If you are a christian you are a slave to lies!
@Carazaa The bible is just a bunch of books written by men. Books that contradict each other and defy the laws of physics btw. I am offended you use them to impose your beliefs on others.

I have found my truth and I am mature enough to realize it is different from yours and I don't feel the need to force it on you.
@Carazaa
If you are not Christian you are a slave to sin.


This is complete nonsense. If anything the opposite is true. Sin only holds power over those who believe it even exists.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Bushmanoz
What it boils down to is it's basically "yahweh, or the highway"

What it boils down to is your free will to choose to love Him or not. Excuse God for not making robots instead of free thinking human beings.
@GodSpeed63 Him wanting people to make certain choices is not free will. At least not free will that is respected. God apparently does want robots from the way you put it.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@canusernamebemyusername
Him wanting people to make certain choices is not free will.

You have your free will don't you? So, what are you crying about?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
there are lots of other things one can complain about with religions. Why attack other people's beliefs though if they don't harm you? Some people need religion to explain the unexplainable, it makes them happy. Let them be, unless they proselitize or hurt you.
Success · 26-30, F
One simply doesn't ponder the motive of some hypothetical being- unless it's to complete a foolish story.
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Zenyatta · 26-30
@IstillmissEP Those days exist for an entirely different reason originally but I get what you’re saying.
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Carazaa · F
Because he loves us and wants fellowship with us, and he wants to save us from certain deat!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Sharon
Do what god up

Excuse me. Why do you bring your gods up if you claim that you don't have any?
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 I simply refer to other people's gods. Why do you keep banging on about your yahweh thing and then denying it?
Carazaa · F
@Sharon yeah, Pasta is yummy!
midnightsun · 26-30, M
No god ever demands offerings lol. It's people , who do it out of devotion.
That’s exactly true. The god these Christians worship is a narcissistic killer.
@GodSpeed63 I’m calling you a coward because you are. Oh and you’re a liar.
@Carazaa If there was such a thing as god I might be concerned about your threat.
Carazaa · F
HypnoChode · 46-50, M
The Easter Bunny wants you to believe that Santa is selfish.
That is exactly what it sounds like. It would be considered an abusive relationship in any other context—even a parental one, which is closest to what the teachings describe.
it's a father and child relationship
this is what you can be
this is what I can give you
you know what you need to do to get it
it doesn't come free
show you'll appreciate it
and not pull your life, life and the earth through your arsehole
and live like you have zero responsibility
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Carazaa · F
@SimplyTracie That was just an example. Another example is to love God first, and everyone, and pray for our enemies, and to count our blessings and never complain about a single thing. If we do that, we will have our prayers answered. We will be on top making the decisions in our lives, lend and not borrow, be on top in companies not at the bottom, live where we want to live, do what we want to do etc, not at the "bottom" in our lives, not be cursed, and be on the bottom with no choices in our lives and have others decide everything for us.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Hank just wants his ass kissed a little 🤷‍♂️
JBird · F
🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JBird You won't find anyone to date here!! 😁🤣😂
JBird · F
@Harriet03 I had enough psychopaths. I don't plan to have another one 🤪
Carazaa · F
Jesus died for humanity because he loves us, people like you who hate him so you don't have to be punished in hell forever because we all deserve it. Because God is just and all sins lead to death. Would you be tortured for someone who tells you that you are a narcissist, and they hate you? Thought not!
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Carazaa · F
@Emosaur No because He wants to give us a choice and a chance, and because he is just and he lets us choose. If we choose to sin we know that we will die. There must be a punishment for sin, because He is just. But because He loves us he took the punishment. He paid our debt!
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danawilliams2004 · 18-21, F
We don't understand God, anymore than ants understand us.
TacoCat · 26-30, M
If I was a God I would want all the booty
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yeah thats i!
Abbenthewarwolf · 18-21, M
Oh well. Nothing u can do abt it. 😂 What u said is true. The Creator can and will do whatever he desires. Ther isn't a thing u can do abt but live ur life.
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