@JovialPlutonian Neale Donald Walsch... That pretty much explains your beliefs.

@ms20182878 have you read it?

@ms20182878 reading this book reassured me of my beliefs

@Theliberal I see you describe yourself as a "dedicated troll". Perhaps you'd be kind enough to give @MarkPaul a few pointers. He seems to be a bit lost. ;)

@suzie1960 i dont dislike you like he does suzie. He cant help it he is an all failing, out-of-touch baby MarkPaul wineass.

@MarkPaul [quote]No, that's because I dislike you.[/quote]

That's obvious. As I said, you hate Atheists and I'm an Atheist. That makes me a suitable target for your hatred. All you're doing however is making yourself look very stupid.

@MarkPaul [quote]Truth be told, someone who is as happy as you claim and pretend shouldn't have to try so hard to be convincing that happiness is your middle name. Your attempt is falling flat.[/quote]
LOL!! You're really desperate to deny I can be happy. Your life must be really empty.

@suzie1960 Thanks for your well wishes and hypocritical comments.

@Pikachu Pik - Thanks for your advice;
That I should turn my back on The Creator of The Universe and condemn myself to eternity in Hell. I will give your advice all the consideration it deserves.

@Pinkstarburst Amen to that!!

@Pinkstarburst you are referring to original sin, the truth being it was the original blessing.

@Pinkstarburst I believe most of you are, it's the guys running the show I have an issue with, not the followers, only in that they don't see the bigger picture and that they're being manipulated by them greedy bastards at the top.

@Azrael well it's hard to experience something you disbelieve, so I understand your perspective.

@MrBlueGuy I would never 😂

@MrBlueGuy Rubbish, there's no proof Santa doesn't exist and lots of evidence that He does. Those of us who have experienced Santa in their lives know He is real. :)

@Ynotisay the case of portraying themselves as a thing rather than being that thing?

@JovialPlutonian No idea.

@curiosi I command you is not the same as I give you the option to, is it?

@JovialPlutonian You point out an implication in your original question that is important to this whole discussion: "A commandment does not imply any free will, in fact it strips it." It took me a while to come to the understanding that you connect "commandment" with "there is no free will". It is your choice to do so, but you should be aware that you are deviating from all of the definitions of "commandment" that I researched. The definitions of "commandment" all seem to have a flavor of them being an order, direction, requirement, guideline, etc. I didn't find any definitions that specifically commented on there being no free will available to allow disobedience. They did not mention any concept of forced obedience to the commandment. So, to connect "commandment" with "there is no free will" appears to alter the common definition of "commandment".

@ms20182878 so if I command you to do a thing am I giving you an option to choose otherwise?

@JovialPlutonian Unless you are somehow able to force my 100% obedience to your command, then I would always have the option to disobey your command either fully or partially. Even in our military, which we would probably agree is highly command-focused, soldiers have the ability to disobey the commands of their superior officers, either fully of partially, and they do occasionally disobey.

@JovialPlutonian that depends upon what he did and how severe it was. Same as with any parent out there. (Or at least any GOOD parent out there.)

@PrivateHell so only good parents must demand power over their own children?

@PrivateHell this is interesting to say the least

@MrBlueGuy that wouldn't make it a commandment.

@4meAndyou Moses was a humble man, and would not have asked God such a thing. The interactions between God and Moses in the text of Exodus are a general flow of information and instructions from God to Moses.

@Winterwine Like The Flying Spaghetti Monster's "I'd rather you didn'ts"?

@suzie1960 well, since i bever heard of the creature mentioned...perhaps!

@MartinTheFirst you can't give me a straight answer can you. It's swings and roundabouts hey?

@JovialPlutonian I don't see how you could think my answer curves.

@MartinTheFirst very wishy-washy is all