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My Wife, My Abuser

I hope that Channel 5 progam will cause those misandrists, who claim only men can be abusers and only women can be victims of domestic abuse, with rethink their position. At least the authorities in some areas are starting to take female on male domestic abuse seriously.
Richard65 · M
They're only just taking male on female domestic abuse seriously.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Richard65 [quote]what comments have I made making me a misandrist?[/quote]
As @Sharon says, you're attempting to make it appear that female on male domestic abuse is insignificant.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@NortiusMaximus I was considering deleting his comments but, on second thoughts, I'll leave them as evidence of his misandry.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Philth [quote]nd how many of the staggering number of male suicides are related to abuse by women?[/quote]
Probably quite a lot. A lot of men are also homeless as a result of domestic abuse. They should be given priority for social housing but, as the police tend to refuse to accept their complaints, they can't get a crime number. Without that, they're accused of intentionally making themselves homeless go are not entitled to assistance.
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It's good to hear that men who live with abuse are finally getting their platform... though I fear that very little will be done to actually help these men to escape because of the sheer lack of refuges for men to go to.

Unless they can go to family and friends, many abused men are picked up by the homeless teams and don't really get the relevant support that they need to rebuild their lives.
@HootyTheNightOwl Women additionally benefit from the "female sentencing discount" - an automatic reduction just for being female.
JonUK31 · 36-40, M
@HootyTheNightOwl That's exactly right. My sis and her hub are both police officers.

The policy is when called to a domestic incident always arrest the male. Regardless of who made the initial the call and regardless of what the officers establish by speaking to the 2 people or what the 2 people say. If the woman claims she's been assaulted but has no injuries believe the woman. If the man claims he's been assaulted but has no injuries don't believe him. If the man has injuries and the woman doesn't assume they were in self-defence and arrest the man.

To do anything other than arrest the male the officers would need to call the duty inspector for permission, giving their reasons. Most sensible officers wouldn't even bother making the call because if they don't arrest the male and something bad happens to the female afterwards that would lead to an inquiry which would most likely mean loss of job. Even if they made the call and the inspector gave permission to not arrest the male at the subsequent inquiry the inspector would say I relied on my officer at the scene. Clearly he got it wrong - sack him.

Of course some of the more intelligent males will lawyer up and sue the police afterwards for wrongful arrest. The police don't mind that, they'll happily pay compensation with no come back on the officer.

This is nothing to do with the police claim of protecting the public - it's all about the police avoiding blame and protecting themselves. And of course the officers following the rules and not wanting to lose their job.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@JonUK31 I've seen that in practice when I've attended incidents where the male victim has been seriously injured. Even when we've had to blue light a male victim to A&E the police still seemed to have the attitude that he was the offender.
Philth · 46-50, M
Well overdue.
As an autistic I've had my fair share of grief from women over the years, some of which has been because they're genuinely misinterpreting stuff, but in other situations, consciously, deliberately misinterpreting stuff to manipulate, exploit, control, or as an avenue to 'kick the cat' of their own unresolved issues.
I found the 'metoo' campaign to be used as a particular pulpit for man-bashing: people who claim to advocate for equality were arguing that the campaign should only be about exploitation of *women* by peers in the workplace, not about anyone so affected. Could you imagine the outrage if the authorities decided to only focus upon knife or gun crime amongst certain ethic groups?
The image attached illustrates just one of my particular difficulties : As an autistic I struggle with the unwritten social rules when it's best to use "woman / lady / girl / lass" etc and am so exhausted from being hit out at for getting it wrong that I've defaulted to what is in my eyes, the last emotive term... But there's people poised, ready to attack. Even when I've pointed out my challenges, she continues to attack... Would she use the example of one 'wrong' word to demonise a person from another country who was struggling with an unfamiliar language? Hell no. Clearly, a potential abuser.

Philth · 46-50, M
@HootyTheNightOwl on the face of it you make a good point. No, I'm not bothered that some random person I've not met has said something nasty. That screenshot though is excellent illustration of the sort of encounters I experience on a regular basis - some of which result in various allegations. That shit gets tiring, mud sticks, it cost me my last job and makes like difficult within the community I live. Do you see?
@Philth I understand more than you think. I've been there, too... I have lost jobs because I was too truthful - and I refused to be bullied.

I'm on the cusp of moving to a new place in a city where I'll have more opportunities than I've had here in town for most of my life. I'm looking forward to a future where I can be my own boss and I get to be who I am instead of being what someone else wants me to be.

I want a less formal work life for myself and others who may work with me and an environment where honesty is valued but without bullying that I've endured. Autistic people don't deserve to be bullied just because we are different.
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2ndtimeguy · 61-69, M
Was taught never to hit a woman my first wife when upset would palm open slap me across the face hard. Never realized how much she did that until we divorced and I remarried a few years later. My new wife went to caress my face with her hand and I would instinctively jerk away.
Zaphod42 · 46-50, M
My sister found herself arrested and divorced because of her abusive behavior. I’ve also stopped speaking to her because of it.
More men would report it if they weren’t ridiculed for doing so, often by other [b]men.[/b]
@DeWayfarer There are individual activists, but it’s a catch-22 situation. As long as there’s a stigma attached, like there is among male victims who are made to feel bad by law enforcement, or LGBT couples, only a fraction of those affected by domestic abuse will come forward. That in turn allows others to claim its "not as big a deal". 🥺
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@bijouxbroussard Male victims are often treated as the abusers by the authorities. :(
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Torsten · 36-40, M
considering all the posts i cant see in this thread, I cant imagine all the dumb replies you have had to deal with in this thread.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Torsten There are a few misandrists here who deny all the evidence that women can be abusers and men victims of domestic abuse. The "women's rights activists" (WRA) fear their funding will diminish or even dry up if the truth gets out and some of the funding goes to help abused men. Many of them have just posted their anti-male propaganda and then blocked me, probably thinking I can't reply in my own thread.
@Caroline259 Some of those whose misandrist propaganda I've challenged have blocked me too.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
Many people joke about this but it is a very real problem for some.
Sharon · F
@Nitedoc It was good to see the police taking action against a female abuser for a change. I do wonder if they would have been so helpful if he hadn't been able to collect so much irrefutable evidence though.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@Sharon I don't think they would have. A phone camera video of what is happening goes a long way.
XxEllaxRawrxX · 13-15
Yes! It's like nobody takes woman abusers seriously. My ex girlfriend was very toxic and abusive but I was scared to talk about it cause I thought no one would even care, stop thinking that only men can abuse!
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@XxEllaxRawrxX I attend about twice as many domestic abuse incidents involving a male victim of a female abuser as [i]vice versa[/i]. Of course, I'm only called to incidents where someone has been seriously injured. The authorities tend to move in much earlier in the case of female victims so the situation is less likely to result in serious injuries in thiose cases.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
And the woman will usually say something like, "I'm just a woman, I can't hurt you. Be a man and take it."
@ChipmunkErnie That’s insane. 😞
One thing my father taught me, you don’t hit [b]anyone[/b] without being prepared to get hit back. Imo, a woman who hauls off and hits a man when she’s not defending herself or trying to get out of his grasp is fair game. That’s what equality is about.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@ChipmunkErnie A colleague attended a domestic abuse incident where the female abuser was arrested. She (the abuser) complained bitterly, claiming - "You can't arrest me for domesic violence, I'm a woman!" https://similarworlds.com/relationships/abusive/4440688-But-Im-a-Woman-A-colleague-told-me-about-a
@Caroline259 I'm not really surprised by her reaction. [b]Some[/b] women seem to think they have the right to abuse men and generally do as they wish with total impunity.
cecile · F
Not before time
Strictextendedfamily · 18-21, F
@cecile maybe cause I’m not American but don’t understand
Sharon · F
@Strictextendedfamily It's an expression common in the UK . It basically means it should have happened sooner.
Strictextendedfamily · 18-21, F
@Sharon ok thank you
Highskirt · 56-60, M
It was an awful eye opener
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Highskirt As a paramedic who has attended too many similar incidents of female on male violence, that program didn't show me anything I hadn't seen before. :(
Strictextendedfamily · 18-21, F
Yea exist simply abuse
Fluffybull · F
"Misandry". Latest tedious woke word 🙄
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Fluffybull Just like misogyny, with a different target.
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@SteelHands Not all female abusers are in a romantic relationship with the man they abuse, though.

It's not so easy as packing your stuff if you are being abused by your mother or sister.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@HootyTheNightOwl I get that concept. The worst aspect. Some boys don't even know they're being psychologically and morally abused because they don't have anything to compare their world to yet.

Then when they reach adulthood they end up as twisted and immature as their mothers and sisters.

 
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