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Just an observation concerning something I'm sick of hearing

There are several people around me who keep telling me America needs another civil war. Seemingly hoping it would happen.

Can't help but notice all of them have nice homes and property, good incomes, fairly well set for retirement when it comes, take multiple nice vacations every year and have young adult children just starting out in the world.

If they actually got their wish they'd spend every minute praying things would go back to normal.
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
America's foreign enemies want us to have a civil war. They want us to be divided into hostile factions and fight each other and so be greatly weakened.

United we stand, divided we fall. Never forget it.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@badminton Our domestic enemies are the ones trying to divide America, not some madman overseas.
@CestManan Russia is financing social media meant to divide Americans. But you're right there are plenty of people right here, both in politics and in our neighborhoods, who do the same thing.
@badminton @robingoodfellow While I do think there is a confluence of others who want to impact American politics, but I have never been convinced the ongoing conflict between Russia and the US is not old coldwar style politics rearing it's ugly head to make people vote and act within fear. I think the source of conflict within the US is much more domestic than external.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
That's absurd. Who needs a war; no one would win, the economy would be destroyed and people that you love dead. Utter nonsense.

I think we are all so removed from any war historically that most people don't know what war really is. They have no concept. I think the same was for WWI when people cheered and were jubilant to march off to war. They learnt the horrible reality of course.
Ynotisay · M
The Civil War talk is SO freaking childish. No matter who it's coming from.
Just ask them what that would look like. Specifically. And then laugh at whatever foolishness they come up with.
Piper · 61-69, F
I've been seeing people express that sentiment also, mostly on social media, for many years now. It's troubling to me, that people around me and or anywhere in this country, might actually hope for the suffering, death and devastation that the reality of another 'civil' war would mean.


I do think you're right, in that last sentence.
Notsimilarreally · 31-35, F
War is the last thing anyone needs
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I suspect its a thing with these particular Americans that they expect to come out on top, without damage to their own possessions. That what comes of not fighting a war on your own ground since muzzle loaders were a thing. 😷
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
They have no concept of history!
@samueltyler2 one of the people I'm talking about is an American Civil War buff. He's read all the books and watched all the documentaries. He has to know what a bloody horrendous time that was. Yet he's got it prominently on his Facebook page "time for another civil war".
Along with photos of the nice family vacations he took this summer.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@robingoodfellow Just because one reads the history doesn't mean they understand it.
We don't need more war. We need more trees. More laughter.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
People should be more careful with their language. A civil war is the most appalling, avoidable tragedy. The mark of a failed state. Many of those who talk glibly about war (such as Elon Musk) are conveniently too old to be conscripted into military service themselves.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl Trump tried to start one on Jan 6 2021
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@zonavar68 Yes, from a distance and behind the comfort of his desk.
smiler2012 · 56-60
@robingoodfellow obviously people who crave this sort of lunacy have not thought this through very well. too personal loss upheaval and turmoil and the death and destruction of your infertructure
And I would bet every last one of them have zero experience in war beyond the 1st Call of Duty gaming chair division.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Here we are a month out from the election and several red states are enacting laws now (when its too late to challenge them) to purge the voter rolls. Just in case anyone wasnt watching the Project 2025 playbook swing into action..And if the count still doesnt go their way, watch the legal "irregularities" pop out of the woodwork with the MAGA lgal teams all ready to go..Pay no attention to the polls folks. They arent how this is going to be decided..😷
I bet you it’s mostly folks on the younger side, folks who’ve never dealt with countrywide protests and race riots, who can’t imagine being chased down the street and jumped on by gangs. And this time everyone would be armed. 🥺

Trust me, defending yourself against kicks and punches is painful enough. I guess they must imagine that they and their loved ones wouldn’t be the ones in danger. 😞
Conservatives at least have a coherent ideology. Of course they want war and oppose peace, or positive views of cooperation.
Miram · 31-35, F
Now Americans, take this same attitude and consistently apply it when the desire for foreign wars is expressed too.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
These are probably the same folks who think that walking on two legs was a bad idea.
DDonde · 31-35, M
It's very immature on their part.
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
A lot of people these days are talking about a revolution. As usual these people have never seen war or been shot at. And finally no well fed well housed population has ever risen up in revolt.
@Musicman To be very honest, I wouldn't exactly call the complacent middle and upper middle class the little guys, the little guys are those of us that have always struggled to keep our heads above water, the forgotten ones that slipped through the cracks because no one cared to check on us.
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
@NativePortlander1970 I was referring to everyone who isn't super wealthy and isn't a politician. Everyone else is canon fodder. ☹
@Musicman Too true
It was a Vietnam vet who was squatting in the woods on my stepfather's land who told me in the mid 80's when I was a teenager that it would happen within my lifetime and to always be ready, we'd talk when I went fishing at the small private bridge he had his encampment nearby.

cc: @Musicman
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
@NativePortlander1970 I do agree with that. So what do you think of all this?
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Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
@NativePortlander1970 Sadly I don't disagree with you. ☹
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@Crazywaterspring No, and they’ve never even seen the results of serious domestic conflict, like house bombings.
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