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Why I hate catfish….

You have probably noticed that I have this thing about calling out catfish.

In 2014 one of my friends was talking to a guy she met online and they were in an online relationship. She seemed really happy. He was a good looking guy, they talked on the phone a lot. Anytime they were supposed to have a video call there was always a reason why he couldn’t. Something would come up, he wasn’t feeling well or would have to go into work. This went on for quite a long time.

She didn’t tell me that they hadn’t seen each other on video. It was about 18 months into their relationship and she was pretty upset that day. I asked her why and she told me what was going on.

I had watched the show catfish since it came out so I said we should see if we could try and find the pictures online. We did, we found them online.

She was really crushed by this. She confronted John about this and asked him why he would lie. He said he didn’t want her to know what he really looked like. Then that was it. He just disappeared and he was gone. She never found out who he really was, we knew he was a man. He sounded like a man but she was left broken hearted and with trust issues.

I would just hate to see someone else deceived that way.

What do you all think about catfish? That’s my experience with them.
Beautywithin · 36-40, F
The People that do it are selfish ! They do it because they either don't get attention in the real world and lack so much confidence, behind a screen they can be and say whatever or they just get off messing with someones emotions.

You hear so many stories how people fall for this, I can normally tell pretty much straight away, but some people are so desperate for love they will believe anything.

It's one of the most cruel things you can do lying to someone making then think you are someone you aren't! Allowing them to fall for you, then just disappearing.

They should put time in trying to sort themselves out rather than trying to hurt someone else because thats how it always ends ! The truth comes out.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Beautywithin this is how I feel too. It’s very hurtful. My friend was so heart broken over that whole situation. She’s an introvert and finds it hard to open up to people and she completely opened up to him and he lied to her.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
they have no idea how hurtful it is what they are doing nor do they lack the remorse

You have wasted precious time that someone will never get back for a false hope
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@DeluxedEdition exactly!!! Time is so precious. Not to mention stealing someone’s pictures is bad too.
karysma · 31-35, F
It's why I'm upfront in here. I tell whoever is interested in me that I'm a quadriplegic if they want me then it's cool if don't then it's cool too. I video call people too. I'm not hiding. If they think I'm ugly it's their problem. It don't make a difference to me. I'm content with the way I look and with my life.

Did I mention I'm extremely honest with them so they run off 😅
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@karysma I am sorry they run off. I am pretty honest too, I just like verbally vomit all of my stuff out and if they stick around after that then I know we can be friends.

I am sorry for your health struggles though 💞💖💕.
karysma · 31-35, F
@iamonfire696 Thank you dear. It's a part of life.

I'm honest too cause I don't wanna waste time on shallow minded people. Those that stick around just as you say we stay friends.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@karysma I completely agree
Ferric67 · M
I think that too many folks here are pretending to be something other than what they really are.

I applaud you for your efforts, and I fully endorse your continued campaign against online impersonators who are, at the very least, emotionally harming vulnerable people.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Ferric67 I think at times I am too real and I should hold back 🤣.

Thank you, I just don’t want to see people hurt like she was.

Obviously we try and put our best foot forward here and in our real lives but completely faking a whole person is just crazy to me.
SW-User
I can relate to your friend's experience because a friend of mine was put through something similar or worse. There was a whole scheme involved, with more than one person. She is a lesbian but was led to fall in love with a young man who took pride in "turning" her sexual orientation. I and other friends were suspicious that something was not right with this long-distance relationship, but she was convinced. She posted rapturous declarations of love on her social media. Then the young man was supposedly dying in a hospital far away where she could not travel to see him, and she was heartbroken. Then she figured out somehow that the whole situation was fake, and she was able to trace it to someone who apparently makes a point of messing with gay and lesbian people's minds through this kind of scheme. Needless to say the whole experience was devastating. 💔

At the very same time I think that alternate or fake personas are just part of the reality of online life. I appreciate what you do when you identify that someone is using other people's photos, especially when they are personal photos from someone's social media like the situation you posted about the other day. But it is also up to each and every one of us to beware. This is going to get more and more prevalent as the technology of altered photos and videos advances. Every website is potentially going to be like Second Life where everyone knows that the person they are interacting with and possibly falling in love with is probably nothing like that in real life. A strong reason to try to have real-life friends and not depend on our online connections only...
SW-User
@iamonfire696 True dat.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@SW-User This doesn't work (again watch Catfish (the series)) fraudsters are so determined they get other people involved in their schemes to do face to face etc.
SW-User
@GeniUs Yes, that is what the friend I mentioned went through 😢
Punxi · 26-30, F
The human brain is wired to meet its needs. One of them is the need to be loved. Sad that there are those whom scam that fulfillment but, such occurrences take place in just about every recourse of life I think. Far beyond dating. Catfishing has been around long before the Internet, reality shows and social media coined its phrase. Gotta be careful out there. Sorry to hear about your friend. Keep huntin'em girl.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Punxi you are right about that. Social media and the internet has just made it so much easier to do it. Thanks, I just hate that she was hurt that way. She hasn’t really had any relationships since then either.
These people have serious issues. They want to be liked for who they are not. They want to play with people’s emotions.

Catfishing , though mostly associated with using fake pictures to represent themselves, is also about faking their whole persona. This means representing themselves as someone else - different likes, diff jobs, diff family life, diff lifestyle. They can also fake their feelings towards you. They say you’re the “only one” to everyone and pretends to everyone differently. 🤦‍♀️

I’ve never directly experienced it, but like you, I’ve seen this catfishing practice hurt some of my friends.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@CookieCrumbs It’s so hurtful, I just can’t understand it. I have seen situations where they say everything is true but the pictures. Then there’s the catfish where everything is a lie even the feelings.

I just hate it. I don’t know why but I want to save strangers from that pain my friend went through. Maybe I shouldn’t care so much?
@iamonfire696
I think we all should have a filter when dealing with strangers online. And we shouldn’t rush trusting someone’s representation of themselves too quickly and easily. Trust should be earned over time.

If she decides to jump into some form of “relationship” with an online stranger, she should expect the same transparency as she would with offline partners. This includes voice calls, video calls, etc..

She should have asked herself: is she willing to disclose her real identity ? Where she lives? Where she works?

Then she should expect the same. I know this is a lot of risk… but if this was a real relationship, shouldn’t two people know those things about each other?!

If she hadn’t gotten to the point of that kind of trust….if there is even a doubt in her gut about the other person, then don’t expect too much from the relationship. Keep it cool. And don’t fall too hard.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@CookieCrumbs she’s not doing the online thing anymore. She’s single and at this point I don’t know that she will ever be with anyone. You are right about the trust and sharing of information.
I think they are awful human beings that exploit people for their own amusement
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Ozymandiaz I do too. I just want to save someone from that hurt.
Unfortunately they have serious mental issues and it’s just never gonna go away.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Teggy you are right about that. If you don’t want to show yourself online then don’t. I have talked to people that don’t share pictures.
SW-User
I fell for one years ago back when I was naive about such things. We even talked on the phone, she was so nice. When I found out she was using fake pics I was devastated and so embarrassed. I still don’t quite understand it
SW-User
@iamonfire696 good idea
SW-User
@iamonfire696 Yes, by reverse image searching, sometimes I find a photo online that shows that the one on SW has been photoshopped, and thus the person is faking it.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User I use reverse image search a lot. Most catfish are pretty dumb though.
OhIsMe · 36-40, M
I have mixed feelings. I hate to give an 'it depends' answer, but there was a user on here a few years ago called Atalanta who admitted to using someone else's pictures then left the site or was chased away from it feeling quite ashamed of herself.

The thing is... she was great. She was always so kind and thoughtful in every interaction. She wasn't trying to start relationships or get money or be cruel to anyone, it started out as her being shy about her looks and as she built relationships it became a noose around her neck because she realised it was too late to tell people the pictures weren't her.

The problem with catfish like the one who hurt your friend is their intent. Both John and Atalanta were insecure about their own looks and chose to use a different avatar. One decided to make friends and be kind, the other decided to seek out love and continue to be deceitful while claiming to be caring.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@OhIsMe with your friend why didn’t she just have an account without pictures? It didn’t work in her favour because she left because of it. There are people here that don’t show themselves and don’t even show their gender and I appreciate their contributions.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
They only get in when you're vulnerable otherwise you'd see straight through them. I had a run in with one on MS Messenger when people could just randomly start talking to you, I was newly separated and had lost everything I'd worked 20 years for. Up pops this dolly bird, I was late 30s wants to be my friend but would disappear every so often to 'talk to the pasteur'. Not kidding 2 weeks in she wants me to send her a mobile phone for her birthday- I'd only just got one myself! Said I couldn't afford it so she went down to a cd player. Blocked her, I knew all along but you don't need that sort of distraction in life when things are crap already.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@GeniUs yes I believe that too. I hope you have found someone 💖
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@iamonfire696 Yep just kept going and eventually it happened, 12 years together this year (or is it 13 I don't really count).
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@GeniUs I am glad you found happiness 💖
VirginMatchmaker · 46-50, M
Catfish were about 10 years ago but with the world becoming more and more superficial there's more and more people who don't believe they look like the world expects them too. Anyone who isn't good looking is worth nothing essentially.
But then there's the Catfish who are actually just out to scan more and more money out of you.
There's also the sickos who want to just cause mayhem in people's lives because they've got a grudge or worse still just want to see the world burn and anyone crushed even if they don't know you.
I myself was Catfished but I only realised it years later. Now I have to see the person on video or I won't talk to them privately.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@VirginMatchmaker yes it’s a good thing to know for sure who they are. Sorry it happened to you.
VirginMatchmaker · 46-50, M
@iamonfire696 it is what it is and I put it down to life experience. It certainly makes me more careful and wary of people.
I now get 10-20 messages a day due to streaming live from Catfish so I'm well versed in avoiding the pitfalls of them. I've even started to remove them from my live feeds because I go check out their profiles and there's some easy spots to see what they are.
I met a guy on EP and we talked for about a year or so ?I had this exact same case where he'd postpone meeting on a video call by stating something silly.I also figured out the pics he sent me were though not fake still it was taken from his younger days .He basically matched my age.I was 27 then.

Later on ,I discovered the man right here in SW in his late forties,bald and still continuing to chat with females here trying to get hold to them.He's a very active user here btw.

I can easily confront him and ask why he fooled me but then I am not going to lower myself to his level and be a sob story .Rather sharing his story here might open eyes for some possible victim.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@UnderstandMe I am sorry that happened to you. If you want to PM me his name I wouldn’t say no to that. I hate that kind of stuff.
caPnAhab · 26-30, M
I've really only ever had one encounter with a catfish. On here.

Just someone I thought would be fun to talk about things like star wars, stuff like that. I wasn't shattered when I found out but I sure was bummed. The convos seemed so real.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@caPnAhab was the account your talking about called strawberrymilkshake? That was her.
caPnAhab · 26-30, M
@iamonfire696 yeah, thats the one

What a convincing character....
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@caPnAhab yah all of them were convincing. I just don’t like catfish.
It's cruel, selfish, and crazy. Some of them enjoy hurting others, they get off on it.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SlippingAway yes! You are right! Some of them love to hurt people.
helenS · 36-40, F
How could anyone possibly be in a relationship for 18 months (!) without ever seeing the other person?
Slade · 56-60, M
@helenS Just a freak. Probably getting off fooling a super jock from the epitome of a Catholic school (Notre Dame).

Vic was an extremely naive polynesian. Still playing in the NFL I believe
Ferric67 · M
@Slade I certainly remember that
Slade · 56-60, M
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manti_Te%27o
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
So sad.
I’ve seen too many people here get hurt that way
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@GJOFJ3 it is really sad and so deceitful
ekwalizur · 41-45, M
I was taken in by one once. Fortunately, since I knew I was being lied to, I had the good sense not to fall in love. But I never thought for a minute that EVERYTHING except "I live in Ohio" and "my language is English" was a lie!!! 🤬
ekwalizur · 41-45, M
@iamonfire696 thanks, but it could have been worse if I let it. And it sounds like it has been worse for others.
@karysma Ohio and English. Those are the only parts that were true.
karysma · 31-35, F
@ekwalizur I'm sorry you had to go through that. I guess people feel the need to lie to impress their love interest. That doesn't mean it's okay.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@ekwalizur I am glad it wasn’t worse for you.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
Obviously people with some serious issues. Your friends example it is a shame maybe just some guy very insecure in his looks etc so lives via another image. Maybe all was lies so married, kids etc and just sadly unhappy but unwilling to leave his relationship and be honest. Or maybe darker and there was some scam at the end intended the old "I need money" or "thanks for the video of you nude I'll expose you to your friends on Facebook unless you pay... "

There are some i see on here, the obviously stolen pics fron online or badly photoshopped with the same 3 clear face pics.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@iamonfire696 which I can understand totally the deceit is the thing isn't it. Just be honest why's that so hard?
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@OldBrit I wish people would be honest about that. That’s why I point out the fakes. Maybe I should let them be though? I am not sure what the right thing to do it.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@iamonfire696 I just pass by them. They'll just open another account (like the one famous one in here keeps doing) but I'd rather know the one that I've rumbled.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
I think online relationships are too risky whether you know how does the person look or not and not worth being too invested emotionally. So I can't really relate to all that disillusinment. It's not the best idea to idealize someone based on what they decide to show you anyway.

Personally, I think it's even more disrespectful to the one whose appearance they've stolen. Who would like to have a false identity created somewhere on the internet presenting opinions, showing behaviour or do all the things they would never do themselves? It's a form of identity theft.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@CrazyMusicLover I can agree with that. I have some good friends I have met online.

I found this account here that’s fake and I reached out to the actual person and she wants the account taken down but it’s still here.

https://similarworlds.com/society/fake-people/4418704-Please-report-this-account-as-a-fake
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@iamonfire696 That's not a good sign for us. One would expect that such profile would be banned.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@CrazyMusicLover I got a lot of people to report this and I private messaged Nuno and nothing has happened. I know I would be upset if my pictures and content were stolen to use somewhere else and to ask for money.
SW-User
You hate being lied to ...so do I ...and so do most people ...uou have to stay vigilant with all the fakes ...online and even offline
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User took 10 days but I finally got the pictures down and a warning on the account.

Maybe I shouldn’t bother but my friend was pretty crushed about this.
SW-User
@iamonfire696 yeah fuck that
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User pretty much what I think too
Actually love me some catfish .. good for my hillbilly soul
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@SW-User I'm sure
SW-User
@Stillwaiting And the hotter the sauce, the harder we fall...
@SW-User Lol .. very true..

Scorned Woman was most appropriately named actual hot sauce I ever tried ..
Slade · 56-60, M
Agreed. I couldn't live with myself if I was hurting someone.

I have no alt accounts or anything like. All I am here is a 'roided up version of myself. I think I'm pretty easy to predict too
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Slade it’s such an awful thing to do to someone
Riverman2 · 56-60, M

I love you. Send me your nude photos and credit card number. I promise to always take care of your heart. Heh, heh, heh.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Riverman2 no you send me those things 🤣
Riverman2 · 56-60, M
@iamonfire696 Oh yes of course. I will send you my gorgeous photo (clipped from a body builder magazine) and also my credit card number (which I stole from someone else). Heh, heh, heh.
SW-User
I think that they're sad pieces of shit to be honest. They're pathetic. Their lives are a joke. I've had them try to catfish me before but they failed. I am the kind of person who expects that you will prove who you are and I won't get gaslighted about that. If you make excuses then you're gone.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User I agree with this. I know some people think it’s an attention thing. Like some weird thing about me not getting the attention but that has nothing to do with it, that’s a weird way of thinking and I never thought of that. There are people that get very hurt by people like this.

My friend is very vulnerable and she was taken advantage of. I know it wasn’t smart of her to invest that time and feelings into him but she did. I never realized how serious it was until they had been talking for about a year. She mentioned him a time or two but was embarrassed by it being an online thing. When I started questioning her as to why they hadn’t video chatted she started getting my pushy with him about it.

I know it’s probably crazy that I point then out but I don’t care those people are selfish.
Barny52 · 56-60, M
It’s a shame when peoples lives are so boring they need to make drama out of online lives !!
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Barny52 isn’t it! I don’t get it.
Riverman2 · 56-60, M
Being a catfish is about the lowest, meanest thing it is possible to do to another person online.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Riverman2 I agree with this.
Mooed78 · F
That is awful. Your poor friend.
Mooed78 · F
@iamonfire696 she was vulnerable to begin with. That guy knew what he was doing. Hope she is doing ok now?
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Mooed78 she’s doing okay but she’s not with anyone. It stems from the sexual abuse when she was a kid so she’s got trust issues and that didn’t help at all. I love her and wish I could just make her happy and better but it doesn’t work that way.
Mooed78 · F
@iamonfire696 you are there as her friend, that’s so important.
SW-User
Well they fool me easily. I have a tankful of them.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User they don’t fool me
SW-User
@iamonfire696 I have one friend who I trust on here and she is very special. And that is worth wading through a million catfish to find her.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User that’s really nice 🩷
jarinm · 56-60, M
And what about some men who pretend to be women? I have found that often too.
jarinm · 56-60, M
@iamonfire696 Thanks. Maybe we can chat sometime
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@jarinm my inbox is open 💖
jarinm · 56-60, M
@iamonfire696 I have tried to message you
SW-User
I'm 100% Guyfish..☹️
SW-User
@SW-User Hmmm, Guyfish... What are the characteristics of that species??? 😉
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User guyfish
If you don’t video/FaceTime together in in the first couple of weeks you deserve to be catfished. Dating profiles should just be video.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@sirenofthesea I have never been catfished but thanks for your input.
SW-User
Anybody who hurts another purely to gratify their own ego is a louse
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User I agree with that
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iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@ChemDawg yah I am sorry for that last one. She was a lying nut case. So glad she’s out of your life because you deserve much better.
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iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@Djac17 I am sorry you nearly fell for one. I am glad you can figure them out now,
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iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User okay 🤷🏼‍♀️
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iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@SW-User thank you for the gift and apology 💖

 
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