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White lives matter

When the F*ck are people gonna realize that it's people's lives that matter?

* White lives matter
* Black lives matter
* Slightly black but almost white lives matter
* Slightly White but almost white lives matter
* Almost white but slightly yellow lives matter
* Brown but with a tinge of white lives matter
* Not exactly white but I have a dark tan lives matter
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
The fact people pretend to not understand the point of the black lives matter slogan is one of the most insultingly idiotic things I've ever encountered in my life.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@CountScrofula
The claim is that black lives currently matter less to the state than those of other races, and this should be corrected so black people are treated equitably and their lives given -equivalent- value to those of other races.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with this. First and foremost I don't agree that Black lives matter less to the state, that is propaganda, we are all equal under the law. Additionally, there are already a multitude of programs, benefits, and give aways available since the 60's that were to address the racial inequalities that occurred between slavery and Jim Crow. It would seem you think they deserve more, and that is perfectly fine by me if you feel that way.

But I don't agree. I also don't appreciate the way you categorize my disagreement as misunderstanding. I understand this concept perfectly, again, I don't agree.

If you feel that this is important, than that are your feelings and I have no issue with them.

But own it bro. You say I am not getting this? I think its you who can't accept that there could be a difference in opinion on this. You seem to believe your feelings should trump my opinion and beliefs. It's not going to happen.

And another thing...

This is a demand for fairness, not for black supremacy.

You aren't talking about fairness, you are talking about equity. If it was fairness, then the playing field would be level and we would exist in a pure meritocracy. That isn't what you are promoting is it? Rather you think Black lives deserve equity, a special leg up, because you believe Black people deserve this for what you believe is their lesser status in society and other societal ills that you feel impact Black lives more.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@SumKindaMunster Okay I have to admit, -that's- honest. I've never seen someone argue against equity before.

So you're against general measures of equity? This is a slight tangent but I'm fascinated by this. So for example if you could, you'd eliminate legal requirements for handicapped parking spaces and wheelchair ramps?

Also the law is written equally but not applied equally and I think it's reasonable to care about how things actually work, not how they work on paper.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@CountScrofula Well at least we can now move past the whole notion that I just don't understaaaaand man. 🙄

I'm not opposed to the concept of equity per se and using it to assist deserving people a leg up. But using a nebulous, politically charged notion such as race to apply such concepts is a dead end for me, sorry. It doesn't really work and you would think just looking at Black Lives Matter actions since they rose to prominence would be a good anecdote upon which to reflect, but I dunno.

As usual, I get the distinct sense that you aren't responding to me in a genuine fashion, but rather constructing purity tests to impose on me, and then act aghast when I don't toe the line to your sense of social justice.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@afreshstart77 Besides the KISS principle and the need to keep hashtags as short as possible? For one, it's punchier, which makes it easier to remember and more impactful to state.
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
@OggggO So the marketing catchphrase is more important than the message?
OggggO · 36-40, M
@afreshstart77 Since it seems that only chuds like you actually have trouble with the message… 🤷‍♂️
White lives have always mattered, in the U.S. and in most of world. They’ve mattered more than indigenous people’s lives, more than aboriginal people’s lives, often more than Asian people’s lives and certainly more than black people’s lives. Anyone who still doesn’t get this 400 years later has either been living under a rock or is pretending.
No one doesn't realize that. Some black people just don't or didn't feel like they matter/ed hence the blm movement.
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
@Spoiledbrat I.m white and I KNOW my government doesn't listen to me. Not because I'm white but because I'm not important to them until it's election time. That's the truth across the world.
It's okay to say you don't feel like you're being heard or like you're being treated fairly. @afreshstart77
Its telling that you think for black lives to matter all other lives must not. You completely missed the point and I expect you did so on purpose.
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
@canusernamebemyusername I have no opinion on black lives as such. I believe ALL lives matter. I know it's a controversial subject and has polarized opinions but again we are attacked for our differing opinion. I don't pretend to have the answers but I do know that trying to make whites feel bad about being white is counter-productive.
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pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@MalteseFalconPunch I don’t believe that any one group, cause, organisation or person holds the answers to everything, neither do I believe any of those four things can be 100% good or 100% bad so good luck finding something I believe in.

Go on give me the list of good things done by BLM
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pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@MalteseFalconPunch

so this list of good things done by BLM?
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
They do matter my dude, but the BLM campaign was about that in particular as whites weren't being systematically targeted.
WolfGirlwh0r3 · 36-40, T
@Ryannnnnn I think BLM was a good movement that was corrupted by bad actors as many good movements are
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@BohemianBabe This is an interesting and surprising comment from you Boo. A bit of a departure from the beliefs of some of your contemporaries wouldn't you say?
@SumKindaMunster See how nice it is when you think for yourself? You're able to have your own ideas instead of just parroting talking-points.
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Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
What about people that dye their hair but have a grey stripe running through it?
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz I,m trying to confront a very serious matter that is changing the way society views itself. We are discussing skin colour, not hair colour.
Spotpot · 41-45, M
Everyone knows white lives matter unlike black lives.
gol979 · 41-45, M
Plain old "divide and rule"
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They're trying to make it right. @SW-User
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SW-User
facetious not allowed.. am sorry.. all lives matter
afreshstart77 · 61-69, M
@SW-User ok
Save the whales makes sense...
Save all the mammals doesnt...
Tres13 · 51-55, M
BLM Nah,Blacks kill Blacks
scott18 · 26-30, M
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Okay, a year ago, I would have laid into you with a savagery that would have made you block me in about 2 seconds flat. Tonight, I'm a little sleepy, a little stoned, and just plain feeling generous. So here it goes.

The whole reason the movement is called Black Lives Matter isn't to exclude anybody. It's the exact opposite. It's to remind everybody that despite their historical treatment, their lives do, in fact, matter. If they had wanted to be completely accurate about their intentions, they would have named it Black Lives Also Matter, or something of the sort, but that just doesn't roll off the tongue.

Okay?

It's not about excluding your white ass. It's about making sure they don't get excluded.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@pianoplayingsteve I don't think not wanting to talk to a person who spent most of the afternoon talking shit about Jewish people while denying just how racist he truly is makes me immature.

@BohemianBabe I feel like you have been sticking your fingers in your ears every time this subject comes up, but there absolutely has been consistent mistreatment of black people in particular in the United States.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@LordShadowfire I didn’t talk ‘shit’ about Jewish people all afternoon. You are indeed a very immature person.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@pianoplayingsteve Oh, I see. It's just my imagination that you were posting all kinds of bullshit about so-called Jewish supremacy and the Rothschilds, right? I'm lying about the fact that you said all that shit?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
When people like you start admitting that racism still affects the lives of many still in a modern day world. 🌍
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@Zonuss like white people.
Justenjoyit · 61-69, M
I think ginger lives matter the most lol
@Justenjoyit Gingers are the master race.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@BohemianBabe
No, but I honestly think that you're super tribal, so you were projecting that on to me. So now you're trying to find a way to justify thinking that I'm tribal while also acknowledging that I disagree with other Leftists on some things.
🤔

Dude what? 😆

Well anyway so much for some common ground. I see you are working yourself up and trying to bait me.

Anything else?
@SumKindaMunster I'm not trying to bait you. Stop being so defensive.
It's okay to admit you were projecting.
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