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"My Warning is unfair! Admins suck!" 🤔🙄

We see several scenarios where...

1) A user intentionally breaks our Terms of Service, causing significant trouble like posting inappropriate contents or offending everyone

2) Admins become aware (through Reports to us), remove the inappropriate contents, and put Warning + Restrictions on the user account

3) The user creates a public post playing the victim and trying to turn other users against the admins

4) And in some cases, the user also contacts us, pretending they don't understand why they've been warned/penalized


This is something we keep seeing happening often, and we wonder what is the goal when someone does this...

There are two ways the user can handle this:

1) Admit the mistake and quit doing the same in the future (and optionally contact the admins to apologize and likely we'll listen to them and reduce/remove the penalty in some cases)

2) Perpetuate the problem, pretend to be the victim and complain about the admins


Please be sure that when you go with option (2), all you're doing is make the admins SURE that their Action/Decision was deserved, and we won't be accepting any apology/appeal. And very likely, we won't "forgive" any future offenses/conflicts, as your account (and any alternative accounts you might create) will be flagged.



As most of you know already, we try to give users as much Freedom as possible, and many mild/once-off offenses are "ignored"/forgiven by us, depending on the impact caused, by us simply sending a Notification to the user, or by keeping the report logged for future reference when dealing with that user again.

However, if someone receives a Warning on their profile, and account Restrictions for it (and in most cases, associated Notifications with details about what those exact offenses were), most likely it was NOT an "unfair" and "automated" action by the system -- with most certainty, it was after days/weeks/months of Reports accumulated by many different users and a member of the staff analyzed and decided that these actions were necessary.
SW-User
Instead of restricting the account they should be marked with this badge
Lilymoon · F
@SW-User BC lol
Dusty101 · F
You were very good to me when I had issues with a user who was doing false reports! Always thankful for that! But sometimes I feel my reports on photos that clearly show a very hard c**k have fallen on deaf ears. You do know I was antagonised by another user here also for a long time, I never moaned or stressed to you about it. But I did put a post up about it and I was warned!
I mentioned no names. I never was the antagonise... But aired how I felt only on a post as I felt people needed to know of such a creature, and yet I got warned.
Again I thank you for that one time. But obviously my other concerns are insignificant. And yes I've contributed a lot of my hard earned cash to be safe here, as I need to know who's viewing my stuff and if they are the awful beasts that creep around on sw!
Dusty101 · F
@OogieBoogie it doesn't matter, I used the wrong word! I should have used, I got a cautionary example not to post that stuff. I didn't get a lebelled yellow sticker thing on my profile! 🎊
@Dusty101 oh ...I get that it wasnt an 'official' warning.

I think its kinda considerate that you got a personal one ....

...That they look at you as a whole , rather than one incident.


This is an example of "the human element".

Imagine the kerfuffle if it was totally automated!!!
@Nuno oh...I believe you.

She's a great user.

Wish more users were like her.

And this is why im glad you try to leave space when complaints are made .


We should be judged on the whole of our input (generally speaking).

Cliques form, and ganging up on people can easily happen.

Sometimes it must take some time to sort out whether complaints are valid or not.

And that must seem like a.waste of time to you guys 😏
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
I’ve been waiting for the admins to clap back for so long 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@DeluxedEdition not to mention yes there are some people who harass and circumvent blocks I personally experience this myself but you give that person the reaction they want when you comment back

And yea I am also guilty of this
@DeluxedEdition Wipe that brown stuff off your nose. N🤣
TexChik · F
@DeluxedEdition Make no mistake, we are the cash cows. The VIP is paltry compared to their advertising income.
Personally....I dont envy you your job 😏

I mean ...youre damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

And as much as I've bitched about my personal preferences, I also understand:

we don't OWN this site.

We get to use it for free,

And ...at least we HAVE an admin presence here.


In fact....I sometimes wonder what will happen when you guys hand over the mantle of running this place.
Will the new admins have the same dedication as the ones who created it?

And as much as I hate the trolls and assholes, at least you've never had a 'knee jerk' reaction, and closed up our freedoms to express ourselves as a whole, because of them.
TexChik · F
@OogieBoogie my rub is why have any rules if you cant/wont enforce them? Some of the people doing the offending have even written in their posts they had nothing to worry about when others told them they had better watch out or get suspended.
@TexChik i imagine these would be people who have multiple accounts...made with multiple addresses, or have one of those VPN changer thingies.

Some just.. don't care.

To them its nothing if one account is closed down ...they have 5 more sitting waiting, ready to go 🤷‍♀️
TexChik · F
@OogieBoogie true, but most of the worst ones are long time members
Some users here remind me of my mother when a vagrant knocked on her door asking for a handout during the depression. She hurried to make him a hearty sandwich and coffee.

When he returned the plate, he said, "Lady, somebody oughta teach you how to make coffee."

😂😂😂
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
If you want to do something to help, to help positive interactions, and maybe even increase VIP sales…..let VIP see who’s downvoting. We can block them at that point and eliminate hate from our profiles. The downvote was the most insulting, idiotic and disrespectful thing y’all ever did. Make it right.
TexChik · F
@JesseInTX I think VIP members, when they block someone, blocks all accounts associated with that member. As it sits, if you block some nasty person, you then have to deal with their alts. I also believe VIP members should have the ability to bulk delete pics stored from our profiles, messages that get archived, and posts. After a few years, those things pile up and with the painfully slow , one at a time deletion process, they stay piled up
@JesseInTX i think it's the fact that they've made it shown is the most depressing and 'anger inciting' aspect.

There is absolutely no need to make it shown....except to pander to those who love to use it .

You cant see when a post is flagged...
You can't see when someone mutes or blocks someone else...
So why make us see this ?

Its just a negativity generator by being visible.

I mean ...I don't know if this is completely true ...but I can't see the number of downvotes on YouTube videos anymore .

And I think its a good thing.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@JesseInTX agreed. It needs to go altogether.
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@geoam1 Well said Geo. The grade school mentality exists here among so called adults here on social media. Happy New Year. 🙂
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@Zonuss
‘so called adults’
🤣

Exactly, otherwise the admin may have to tell them to leave their pms at home.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Adogslife You mean them. 🙂
TexChik · F
Honestly your TOS are very subjectively enforced and policed . 🤷🏻‍♀️
I wonder why you keep users that are catfish and that keep asking money to people under many different accounts, you only give them warnings even if proofs are given and provided. They should be banned but you push honest ppl yo leave instead by keeping those catfish
TurtlePink · 22-25, F
Right! I don’t understand why people don’t just suck it up and do their time. If I can do it y’all can do it
Shiki ·
That’s crazy, you guys need more moderators too.
Let em know nuno
SW-User
I feel left out because I've never had a warning. I've made plenty of questionable posts and comments. MY LACK OF WARNING IS UNFAIR. THE ADMINS SUCK!
nedkelly · 61-69, M
I have no problem with this warning, some arseholes users need a kick up the arse
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
The children here like to follow the piped piper of discontentment.

I did grouse some about some of the descions,but I adjusted.

I never had a warning on my profile
Why?
I don't find causing trouble fun.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
I got a warning about posting nude on a nudity thread. Go figure
@MrBrownstone did you have a hardon ?
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Nunlover Nope
@MrBrownstone nuno just jealous then
LisaL · 41-45, T
The problem is over-moderation though Nuno. Some questionable stuff slips through the cracks occasionally and that's what I have an issue with. Granted, you folks are not able to be there 24/7, I get that. But before firing off a salvo like this, let's cut back on the over-moderation because honestly, all it's doing is stifling the growth of this website.
@LisaL overmoderation !?

The only other choice is to fully automate this process.

Meaning....then it would be totally open to abusing by those who understand how it works...ie gang reporting.


I think we are lucky to have admins who mix with the users.

How else are they to keep in touch with the way things are going?

And I've seen plenty of complaints how other sites don't get any feedback from their administrators...and users HATE that.


In fact ...yours is the first comment I've ever seen here that has mentioned overmoderation being a problem .

And I've been here a while.
LisaL · 41-45, T
@OogieBoogie First one? That’s fine. I thought we were here to share opinions on things?

It’s just an opinion. Nothing more. If you disagree that’s fine.
thedreamer1975 · 46-50, F
Sorry but rules are rules and should be followed I'm not admin but if you want to be a troll and cause problems for no reason, go stand under a bridge and scare the goats when they cross the bridge otherwise respect the rules put in place, they are there for a reason. I have my own groups but if anyone breaks my rules, they get booted out the door with a boot mark on their backside. Basically! learn to respect the rules.
Fair enough and about time. I’ve seen those intentionally irritating admins posts…I don’t get why those peeps do foolish posts like that…🙄
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Somehow I missed this post. Only through looking for another post of yours on your profile, also not in admin announcements, did I find this.

Perhaps you could create an option that notifies everyone of such administration type posts just for admin outside of admin announcements?

Joke type posts I can understand not flagging, yet this a administration post. And yes I do follow all the admin and moderators.

Perhaps through the follow option give a notification? 🤷🏻‍♂️
kodiac · 22-25, M
I don't see much of what admins do, but i do know if you report pedo stuff being posted without fail the post and possibly the user will be dealt with many times within minutes of the report. To me that's a lot more important than any changes people might not like or simple warning for something small.There are things behind the scenes that are protecting users and more than that protecting kids.
thedreamer1975 · 46-50, F
In the uk it is illegal to post nude pics online it's a 2 year prison sentence
Carissimi · F
At least you are fair, and actually give the person the reason you give a warning. You are humans and not unfair algorithms dispensing unjust censorship like happens on many other sites. You still believe in free speech, unless it violates your TOS. I’d say you are the most liberal site I know of, tolerating many diverse opinions, which makes you truly diverse. Thank you. 🙏
Viper · M
Glad to know that if we committed an apologized we might get a more lenient punishment. I knew once I was breaking the rules, but that other person just went way too far over the line with mocking true victims... and I went in attack mode, demanding their post be taken down.


As for "Admins suck!", well hopefully they do, for their significant others sake lol
I got a warning for being too awesome 🕺
SW-User
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout i got a warning when I friend3d you that I wasn't awesome enough
GeorgeTBH · 31-35, M
Man this is better then anything on tv 🍿 😂
Doomflower · 36-40, M
Hahaha this is a priceless situation lol
Notsimilar · 31-35, F
Some people here haven't matured past high school. Why do you think they're here all the time. Re creating pointless ass drama, because they're life is that boring, on a damn internet....forum? Whatever. Sometimes SW reminds me of that movie girl interrupted, and you're Whoopi Goldberg. Lol.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
Sounds fair to me! 👍
Classified · M
Something there is so much drama going on that it's difficult see what's happening for real. It's easier to assume you do your best. 😋
SW-User
I thought my warning for being "excessively boring" was unfair.
RadioDust · 36-40, M
Admins suck? What they suck is none of our business
Yeah many people DO want to see the world burn.
Sharky86 · 36-40, M
WOW I've never seen that. Sorry Nuno
TeirdalinFirefall · 31-35, M
Hai Nuno.
Happy 2022!
DownTheStreet · 56-60, M
I love boobs
SW-User
👍🏼👍🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
GeorgeTBH · 31-35, M
damn 😯
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Great post Nuno. Don't fall for the bull crap of those who thrive on turning other users on other users. Or the ones that spread obvious lies and gossip here just because they don't like someone or is jealous. Or has more views than they do. Happy New Year. 🙂
SW-User
I only got one warning which was about not correctly flagging my posts and I owned my shit. So I have no issues. I'm not much of rule breaker anyway, I'm just tuna.
VampireOfDesire · 26-30, M
o
DDonde · 31-35, M
God bless the mods
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Lilnonames · F
I'm done reporting I'll just BLOCK and move on.. I tried
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Dusty101 · F
@RogueLoner 👍🌟🍀
GeorgeTBH · 31-35, M
@RogueLoner truth
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@RogueLoner agreed. plenty of brown nosed trolls on here that never get banned...
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