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The redifining of language for political purposes

I googled 'fuhrer' and i got an immediate dictionary pop up result defining it as something like 'a ruthless dictator'

No, 'fuhrer' translates as 'guide'. To this day, if you have a mountain guide take you walking up a mountain in germany, they would be called a 'bergsfuhrer'.

I dont know why new definitions need making up. A word has a meaning and thats it, thats its meaning.
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pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@MalteseFalconPunch it’s just a pretty big change I think. Is all
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DrWatson · 70-79, M
The dictionary is filled with English words whose origins are foreign words with very specific meanings, but the meaning of the English word has changed. That is the nature of language.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@DrWatson according to google translate it does, which is hilarious because when I translate a certain Christian song into German it turns into someone adoring the fuhrer
DrWatson · 70-79, M
@pianoplayingsteve I think you misunderstood me.

I just went to google translate. Yes, if I type the word in under "German", I get a whole bunch of meanings in English, such as "guide". And words like "guide" in English might translate into German as fuhrer, like your Christmas song.

But that is not what I referred to in my response. I said that the word "fuhrer" as an English word (not a German word) has a narrower meaning.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@DrWatson it isn’t as the actual spelling of fuhrer has an umlaut which is unique to German. Fuhrer (with the umlaut) is a German word and only a German word.

damselfly · 100+, F
Tell me about it. The word "literally" so often used as an enhancer, now literally means "metaphorically"

Another word that means the opposite in American English of what it used to is "Libertarian." This now means "anarchist"
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@damselfly That is not the grammatically correct usage of the word, however.
damselfly · 100+, F
@LordShadowfire Yes I know.
damselfly · 100+, F
@LordShadowfire i think youre seeing a debate about grammar and vocabulary as a debate about politics. In this case it's about grammar and vocabulary but not politics
NoSugar · 22-25, F
maybe if you google non english words you should first learn to spell them right... its führer not fuhrer... then you get the actual meaning of guide and not the english bastardized version of the word which refers to hitler
NoSugar · 22-25, F
@revenant well i am not trying to make a point about some some redefining of language about some reasonign thats completely wrong. i am just to lazy to hit the shift key... which in this case not even matters since capital letters are ignored by google search... umlaute are not.... and just for reference. if you start using capital letters Umlaut has a capital letter aswell.
revenant · F
@NoSugar 🙄
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@revenant @NoSugar stop arguing *punishes you both*
damselfly · 100+, F
To be fair there was only one ruthless German dictator. And I'm sure he preferred to think of himself as a guide, a leader
Definitions have always changed, especially between languages.
revenant · F
They attach emotions to words
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Any language that doesn't evolve is dead. End of story. I'm sorry you don't like the fact that führer has been redefined. Maybe you should find the bones of Adolf Hitler and take it up with them.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe the Romans aka white people (Esau) sacked the second temple of Jerusalem. Since then, rabbis hated white people and they literally put into their religion that if Esau gets stronger, Jacob/Israel gets weaker and vice versa. Germany, when Hitler started to rebuild it was then seen as Esau and Judaea declared war on it. It’s literally written in their scripture thousands of years ago that ‘Germamya of Edom, as if they would go out they would destroy the whole world’ which means if you know the terminology (which I do) ‘One day a nation called Germany with a Christian majority will try and take over the world’.

They also believe that Esau will build up his kingdom (in this case Germany) and then Jacob (jews) will then subvert Esau’s creation and use it as his own. (So sort of how hitler complained that powerful Jews were in prominent positions speaking for Germany but without actually caring for the German people) They also believe that Jehovah would not grant them Israel until 6,000,000 go through a burnt sacrifice offering which is why this number kept coming up prior to Hitlers rise.




@pianoplayingsteve So when you say that rabbis hated white people, you mean Europeans, right? In this interpretation, Esau is the forefather of all Europeans, and Jacob is the forefather of all Israelites?
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe see your inbox dude, already sent you a message. And yes esau white European Jacob Jews
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The meanings attached to words changes over time.

Even the dictionary itself tells you that.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
'DainBramadge' hahaa

 
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