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Crys76 · 46-50, M
Forgetting is quite difficult, sometimes almost impossible.
Forgiveness, however, is not directed at the one who betrayed you, but at you. When you manage to stop feeling anger, anxiety, anguish, only then do you feel liberated and serene. And this is precisely the feeling of forgiveness, serenity and liberation.
You have practically forgiven yourself for not enduring that pain anymore. You have not forgiven him for what he did
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Crys76 I try to forgive, if only for my peace of mind. Forgetting is another story. It serves as a reminder not to be taken in or made a fool of again.

exexec · 70-79, C
I forgive easily and often. I can't forget some things.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@exexec I don't forgive easily, but eventually I do - most of the time, anyway. I never forget.
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
What did you do :)
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@nobodyishome What did I do about what?
Horace · M
If the person who betrayed me was the same person with whom I betrayed my own partner, I'd say I got what I deserved.
For me, NO, I will never forgive or forget a betrayal. I don't cheat, and I won't tolerate it done to me.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Horace Fair enough.
I can forgive and let it go. It might take a minute tho. And while the goal (at least mine) is not to dwell on it), if it’s a significant enough betrayal, I think it is nearly impossible to ever completely forget it. Our minds are like computers, once seen, it’s stored there. But with Father Time, remembrance should lessen and peace should rise to the occasion, but to say totally forget? I don’t think it goes away unless one has dementia or senile.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Unefilletrescurieuse I agree. Those memories stay. I'm not sure how people actually ever forget the betrayals.
@LadyBronte I’m with you on that.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
I always try to forgive.
I feel like I have been forgiven so I must forgive others and I don't like being bitter it causes me a lot of unnecessary pain.
If I see that they're making restitutions I can even forget.
It's usually impossible to pretend something doesn't exist or hasn't happened.
I have boundaries and I do not let them down for anyone.
When people are repentative they're okay with that and when they just want to continue to cause harm they resent the boundaries.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Justmeraeagain Forgiving is the best if it can be managed. And I agree. Offer grace where grace is given.

Restitution, even a simpl3 sincere apology, can go a long way. When no sincerity is forthcoming, we have a choice to forgive or not. I try to for my own peace of mind. Sometimes it takes a hot minute, but normally I can manage somewhere down the line.
I can forgive.. but I don’t forget.

We just acquaintances now.. ✌
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Yeah. I get that in a real way! Things can never be the same despite heartaches and wishes.
Musicman · 61-69, M
Yes it is and yes I have.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Musicman Good for you. So few people can truly do that.
Musicman · 61-69, M
@LadyBronte It's just how I am wired. I get over stuff really fast.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Musicman Good for you.
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
I don't forget. I focus my energy and my brains and heart on other important things
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@nobodyishome Yeah, I don't forget either, but I try not to dwell.
Markmywurdz · 61-69, M
Move on? Yes
Forgive/forget? Nope
Expect to have the door shut in your face if you ever come round to bother me again.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Markmywurdz I think that's pretty common.
Markmywurdz · 61-69, M
@LadyBronte Nice to know it’s not just me getting old and bitter.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Markmywurdz Well, coming from someone who is probably just old and bitter, I'm not sure you should reply on my comments. Lol.
Ontheroad · M
Forgive and try to put that betrayal into context - and not forget it, but live with it.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Ontheroad Agreed. Forgetting lets them do it again.
GoFish ·
depends on what it is some things shouldn't be forgiven especially if they keep doing them to other innocent people
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@GoFish Agreed.
Magenta · F
I can indeed forgive. Why carry around all that emotional and mental baggage. We're humans not saints.
But memories are within us and we can't just purge them unfortunately.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Magenta There are many memories I wish I could purge. Sadly I carry them with me until the end of time. And no, none of us are saints. I try to forgive, but often, forgiveness proves difficult, especially if betrayal was intentional and cruel.
twistedrope · 26-30, M
I can forgive. Forget, no. I will always be looking out to be betrayed again.

Maybe I'll stop looking for warning signs but that will take years and lots of "good behavioir." and we need to be in a close relationship.

Otherwise... They can piss up a tree c:
twistedrope · 26-30, M
@LadyBronte It's not a nice feeling to expect betrayal. I try take each person as a chance. Like a blank slate.

It's easier to give chances when people are like stars. Letting light shine for a brief period before returning to being unlit. Just means I have to keep making my own light. Cringe, I know but it is such.

So... Then I can become so bright >:3 people who don't get closr to anyone can't help but get close. Then it just takes the right time and the place.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@twistedrope No, it isnt a nice feeling at all. I live with it everyday. I still give friendship a try, but nothing deeper. The pain of losing a friendship is much less intense and devastating than being betrayed by someone you loved and believed in. We should always strive to make our own light, so keep shining bright.
twistedrope · 26-30, M
@LadyBronte You are a great one. Your lights pretty bright too.
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LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@rinkydinkydoink Self introspection can be a good thing from time to time. I think the reason I routinely ask these types of questions is because I am continually seeking the answers myself and I wonder where others stand on the subject. Thanks for taking the time to answer. Honesty with self is often the most difficult honesty there is. Maybe learning to forgive yourself and perhaps even seeking the forgiveness of those you've hurt will make it easier to contemplate the past. 🤷🏼‍♀. I don't know, but it's worth a thought.
ninalanyon · 70-79, TVIP
Forgive, perhaps maybe even probably. Forget, no. I only forget useful things like the PIN for my SIM card.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@ninalanyon Lol. Yep
hunkalove · 70-79, M
Always forgive, never forget. But I find in my old age people come and go and you can always just walk away. There is very little that happens in this mean old world that matters.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@hunkalove I try to forgive even if only to give myself peace of mind. I don't forget. When the betrayal is intentional, nothing can ever the same.
Busybee333 · 31-35, F
I forgive. I understand that every person can do a mistake. But broken sincerity leaves a trace. The heart remembers. I won't be able to open up to the initial, limitless degree again. ♥
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Busybee333 Yes, that particular depth of connection is gone.
BrandNewMan · 61-69, M
Forgive .. yes. It lets me move on.

Forget .. not so much, and honestly I'm not likely to allow them access any longer.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@BrandNewMan I try to forgive for my own peace of mind, though it can often take a hot minute. But the forgetting...nah. I have never figured out how to do that and am not sure I ever want to.
EldritchFox · 41-45, F
A huge betrayal means I'm done.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@EldritchFox Can't blame you!
It was in me once to forgive a "huge betrayal", but that only led to even more garbage that came to me from hell delivered to me from that individual. Now I'm back to the zero-forgiveness policy that has always served me much better.
@LadyBronte Indeed, I knew that before I tried the whole forgive and forget routine - but I made an exception because of cardiac muscle tissue. Sometimes we know something but life still has to teach it to us for more of a 3D effect haha.

That's ok. Life gave me proof.

I forgive people now before they do anything. I guess I expect it now - expect it and accept it, peacefully. It works out better for everyone this way.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Magicianzini Thats a good strategy, if you can do it. I'm not sure I could. Life taught me hard this last time.
@LadyBronte Yes, I can do it because I have to do it. And indeed, me too. I don't want to have to retake that class again.
bowman81 · M
It just might be in me, but I would have a hell of a time finding it. Might not even try.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@bowman81 Finding the ability to forgive and forget?
PinkMoon · 26-30, F
It depends entirely on the behavior/attitude of the person who betrayed me.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@PinkMoon Fair enough.

 
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