Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
My ex-wife eventually decided to go through therapy.
Part of which involved explaining to those they'd treated badly why they did what they did.
She wrote to me three times asking if I'd be willing to attend a meeting with her Therapist to go through this process.
I took my time making the decision because to be honest, I want nothing to do with her.
I could see it might benefit her, but saw nothing of worth in it for me.
Eventually I agreed to a meeting with her Therapist present.
I listened to everything she wanted to say.
Listened to the Therapist's interjections. But said nothing.
It was just a long litany of excuses for her behaviour at the time and proved she took no responsibility for how her actions affected those around her at the time.
I think she said the word sorry twice in half an hour of explanation.
Once she'd finished the Therapist asked me if I understood how difficult this process was for her.
..wasn't sure if I wanted to slap her or storm out !
I said I'm wondering if she's been entirely honest with you about what she actually did.
Because no amount of apologising would make me feel better about it.
And then I left.
Part of which involved explaining to those they'd treated badly why they did what they did.
She wrote to me three times asking if I'd be willing to attend a meeting with her Therapist to go through this process.
I took my time making the decision because to be honest, I want nothing to do with her.
I could see it might benefit her, but saw nothing of worth in it for me.
Eventually I agreed to a meeting with her Therapist present.
I listened to everything she wanted to say.
Listened to the Therapist's interjections. But said nothing.
It was just a long litany of excuses for her behaviour at the time and proved she took no responsibility for how her actions affected those around her at the time.
I think she said the word sorry twice in half an hour of explanation.
Once she'd finished the Therapist asked me if I understood how difficult this process was for her.
..wasn't sure if I wanted to slap her or storm out !
I said I'm wondering if she's been entirely honest with you about what she actually did.
Because no amount of apologising would make me feel better about it.
And then I left.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 You did the right thing. Now no one can accuse you of being a stumbling block to her "recovery". And I don't blame you. Often, the things people do to others, are unforgivable at best.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@LadyBronte I was raising our three children. In a house that wasn't mine (I'd had to rent another because she was living in the family home) so i certainly didn't owe her anything.
I was just really hoping something good would come out of the meeting i could take back to our children.
I was just really hoping something good would come out of the meeting i could take back to our children.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 A noble reason. Kids are worth every sacrifice and every effort.
PerfectionOfTheHeart · 46-50, F
I learned long ago to move forward without needing an apology from anyone who either knowingly or unknowingly crippled me along my journey. I also learned that oftentimes an apology only comes as a way to make themselves feel better about the hurt they caused. But I’m usually cordial after the dust settles anyway because that’s how I choose to move in life. Things are never the same again though. Ever. The apology matters very little to me in the whole scheme of things.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@PerfectionOfTheHeart We all can survive without an apology, but the sincere attempt can go a long way in soothing the soul. Most people will never get that though, because they are unimportant to the one who hurt them.
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LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Adogslife I have to agree. Most apologies are a means to an end, to get back whatever is in question - privilege, intimacy, career, etc, etc. Rarely internalized, rarely honest, despite the "heartfelt" countenance. But as you say, years later and a genuine admission of bad behavior, could be genuine. Most will never recieve even that.
JustNik · 51-55, F
If there was real remorse, I would appreciate it because I can say someone owning it and not caring how much it hurt and someone not acknowledging it at all both definitely feel worse, but it wouldn’t influence how quickly I got past it and it wouldn’t automatically wipe the slate clean as only time proves the behavior doesn’t repeat. The most it would do is allow me to give them that time as opposed to simply shutting my heart to them irrevocably.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@JustNik I can see that. If it was genuine remorse, not simply placating words. But yes - nothing can help how quickly you heal and it shouldn't make you forget everything.
BrandNewMan · 61-69, M
Depends on the history .. one off thing or a pattern? Apology come across sincere or lame? Actions going forward avoid a repeat?
I'm walking away from someone who knowingly repeated actions, ducked any resemblence of responsibility or a sincere apology. I stayed for my kids .. mistake or not, they are grown and on their own. I'll never put myself in that kind of position again.
I'm walking away from someone who knowingly repeated actions, ducked any resemblence of responsibility or a sincere apology. I stayed for my kids .. mistake or not, they are grown and on their own. I'll never put myself in that kind of position again.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
Yes, it does come down to whether it is sincere or not, but often that's difficult to discern. Especially when we want to believe. As the quote goes, "We all eat lies when out hearts are hungry". We do ourselves a great service when we learn to move passed that need and automatic acceptance and when we refuse to be put in that situation again. Kudos to you!
I'd move on, but it doesn't mean I need to move on with them in my life. I don't owe them that in the slightest and if their sentiment is genuine they will be understanding of this.
Owning up is a good thing and I'd appreciate it, but don't need it. I also need their apology to be as loud as their disrespect was tbh. 🤷🏾 They need to keep that same energy.
Owning up is a good thing and I'd appreciate it, but don't need it. I also need their apology to be as loud as their disrespect was tbh. 🤷🏾 They need to keep that same energy.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@DancingStarGoddess. Agree. We don't owe them anything.
scorpiolovedeep · 51-55, M
I would accept if someone is remorseful and sincere about it.
Not through text but face to face.
That way you can see their body language.
It also depends on the extent of hurt.
Not through text but face to face.
That way you can see their body language.
It also depends on the extent of hurt.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@scorpiolovedeep I have to agree with you. The extent of the hurt plays a huge part in how you react - how you can react. And if they are genuine at all, and they are actually remorseful, face to face is the only option.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
Most of them never try and just appear again and try talking to you like nothing happened.
I probably would accept their apology, but I'd be extremely cautious and not too eager to get close to them again.
I probably would accept their apology, but I'd be extremely cautious and not too eager to get close to them again.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Justmeraeagain Definitely right. Accept the apology but never forget the disrespect and betrayal.
faery · F
That would depend on whether or not they were sincere. I've experienced both scenarios
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@faery As have I. I have also been fooled into believing an apology was sincere when it was anything but. I don't accept every apology and forgive slowly at best.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Only you know how much it hurt. Given the little I know, my advise would be avoidance at all cost. I’d even try to expunge pleasant thoughts.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Adogslife Just a general question - not one about me. Let's face it. I'll never get anything resembling an apology from someone who has no compunction about using people for fun. But you're right - people who are living with hurt are the only ones who can decide if it means anything after the fact.
RodneyTrotter1 · 100+, M
It depends who it is and what had happened but I'd probably give them one chance to prove their intentions are genuine.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@RodneyTrotter1 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three time - ain't no way.
FoxyGoddess · 51-55, F
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@FoxyGoddess Often difficult to distinguish between honest and hollow. There are some who are genius actors.
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
It helps
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Jenny1234 I would think it would.
LavidaRaq · F
People don’t change, maybe mask up for awhile. But not change.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@LavidaRaq Bingo. Once "always about them" - always "always about them".
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
id be shocked at their moment of clarity.. but that bridge has been burned..
i wish them well :)
i wish them well :)
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I understand that. Some things will just never happen and we have to be alright with it.
Wiseacre · F
That would depend on how many times he exhibited bad behaviour before.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Wiseacre I think it depends on a lot of things, that being a big one!
Gibbon · 70-79, M
This makes me think of my second ex. I would run like hell.
LadyBronte · 61-69, F
@Gibbon Nothing wrong with running the other way. We come to know and understand people by the way they act.



















