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If you say no to giving a homeless person some money does that mean bad karma will happen and you'll end up homeless later?

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
If truth were known around my city most of those donations are being taken to a liquor store and spent or drugs being bought and consumed. The police have more than they can handle in this city. And the homeless can get free food, clothing and other necessities from shelters and pantries. Residents are reporting being asked for money to buy food near a Sprouts health food store here and then they are seen going right next door and buying liquor.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@BizSuitStacy they aren’t even a bit secretive about it either if they head straight to the next-door liquor store, which is the most convenient one for them. I went to that Sprouts store about 3 years ago and a homeless man approached me as I was the only customer in the back part of the story and gave me his spiel. I didn’t say a word and he continued talking. The lady who usually works back there in the vitamin & supplement section was apparently on break so that’s probably why he approached me, he didn’t want to get kicked out. I know someone who was homeless living in the nearby shelter about 20 years ago. She said the men would tell her all of their spiels and tricks to manipulate people into forking over cash. They are quite the cons. And that was quite a while ago when they weren’t so pushy and there were not nearly as many wandering around.
@cherokeepatti my nephew was in my area on a business trip, so we met for dinner. He was in downtown Seattle and told me the bums were really aggressive...that's something considering my nephew lives in NYC. There are more of them and they're less inhibited.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@BizSuitStacy They have gotten aggressive here too. Maybe not all. But they’ll yell at teens if they are skateboarding and act like they own the sidewalks. They can push their stolen shopping carts filled with stuff and that’s OK. Parents in those areas are making their kids stay inside, they will go through the backyards for “Shortcuts” and argue about it when the homeowners tell them to stay out of their yards.
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
When someone asks you for money in a parking lot how do you know who is a drug addict and who is a person who lost their home for financial reasons? I know where I live there are very few people in the latter category because of all the assistance we offer.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@NativePortlander1970 If they weren’t so scary they wouldn’t be ignored. I don’t want to be close enough to make eye contact as it is. They could get offered jobs and refuse them, they can be close to people that way. They would rather beg.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@NativePortlander1970 I don’t believe what he said about the caste system.
@cherokeepatti I do, I have seen homelessness on a very personal level, our capitalist system is extremely cruel.
when I was a kid the homeless were called Ho Bos, Tramps .Vegervons, Beggers, many other things,
@jackrabbit10 Britt, iowa, still has their annual Hobo Days festival every august, I went to it a lot with family in the 80's.
@jackrabbit10 elderly working people, in the USA.
LilPrincess · 41-45, F
Nope...I don't hand out cash. I did this a few times and it was a scam. Lesson learned....the hard way 😔
4meAndyou · F
No. But if you feel REALLY guilty, go buy that homeless person a nice hot submarine sandwich, and a big cup of iced coffee, come back to where he is begging, and give it to him. 100% sure that he will NOT be the least bit grateful, because he doesn't want the money for food. You'll be working off your guilt, and curing the bad karma.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou Entitlement is getting so common with such offers nowadays. Yeah it’s a quick cure, hehe.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou I would love to help someone if I knew they truly needed it. The thing is if someone is willing to cooperate here with social workers they can get help. Families with children, Veterans and others are top priority but the rest can get it too if they would only cooperate in their own best interests.
4meAndyou · F
@cherokeepatti Well, you've read all my comments about my work at the local Homeless Shelter. If drugs are involved, parents don't even want to come in out of 3 weeks of rain with their children.
AlchemyFox · 36-40, F
I plan to volunteer to help efforts for homeless. When you just give, it can be scary. I've definitely been followed and had strange things said to me and my son. I'll buy them a meal or give them some food, but handing out cash doesn't work.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@AlchemyFox warning anyone here not to approach them I’d you see them on the street. Business employees have been attacked while they were working, , a Preacher was beaten up inside of a church on a Sunday morning and police are getting attacked too. Residents are threatened when they don’t hand over cash and I’ve been told of many other incidents. There is too much violence happening these days. People have also been murdered
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@AlchemyFox If you want to help do it as a group endeavor in a safer setting. Or donate goods, volunteer for the collection of those etc.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
Never give money. Many homeless people have serious drug addiction. If you want to give them a blanket or a sandwich, do that. If you want to help them with money find a charity.
there's a diner in the city by the Italian market I shop at and I'll stop in and leave a suspended meal for the homeless. this way I know they're being fed and not buying drugs
i rarely ever carry cash. i do carry around snacks sometimes. and they are welcome to some of my snacks. aint much, but, if they are hungry, they will eat it.
HumanEarth · 56-60, F
I give if I can, I was once the homeless one

I been in their place
Rose0415 · 36-40, F
No, not everyone is financially able to spare a dollar.
Realize that your tax dollars are spent on the homeless. Seattle/King County spent in the neighborhood of $300 million in 2023 for food, housing, and other amenities to accommodate the homeless. Other big cities spend a lot as well. Good chance you're already chipping in.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@BizSuitStacy A homeless woman told someone I spoke to that the government was paying for bus tickets to bus them here and other places. They didn’t have to buy those bus tickets. Free ride to better digs.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@cherokeepatti True. Denver has shipped a lot of their homeless to Portland. Who knows where else. I doubt this is purely to keep them out of the bitter cold winter.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@IronHamster They told the woman here that the medical care was better in Oklahoma. Oklahoma has had to change the way it manages it now probably as a result of that. They also went over the list of those enrolled and kicked some of them off this past year.
PoeticPlay · 51-55, M
I just handed out over $20 to homeless people that I came across while on my walk up to the Filibertos to get some dinner, last night.

Been there.

IronHamster · 56-60, M
@PoeticPlay So, you're also sending everyone on the chat here a $20 bill, too, right?
PoeticPlay · 51-55, M
@IronHamster
Negative ghost rider.
The pattern is full.
SW-User
no, life is not as simple as that. if it were, most of the world would be homeless rn
Maybe. Depends on what was behind your decision.
TurtlePink · 22-25, F
It shouldn't be like that
Buy them a meal from a drive thru instead

 
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