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What is your opinion of the claims that the DOGE is finding billions in government waste?

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fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
We all know there's a lot of waste, I'm glad someone is finally trying to find it and stop it!
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@fanuc2013 I see. And so all the people who were falsely accused of collecting Social Security after they were dead and had it taken from them, that's acceptable to you?
Well, originally they were releasing enough information that some of it could be fact checked and reporters found that most of it was total BS.

So they changed it, releasing less information, making it impossible to fact check... so it's probably still mostly BS.

Also, Musk claimed DOGE found billions in waste from SSA, but that was found and corrected over a decade ago. SSA reviewed it, and it could cost 100 million to update the system, so they decided to save the money and just keep old system, but those numbers would still be listed, but they knew it was wrong, and therefore were giving $0 to them. Musk found it, and claimed he found a paper saving of billions, and on paper it was, but in actually dollars is was a savings of $0 as the correction was already in place before DOGE was even formed, and it actually cost money to review it, so it actually lost money, but Elon is claiming it saved billions.


I believe DOGE MIGHT have actually found billions in waste, but when you factor in their costs, I believe it's less than $15 billion instead of their claims of $180 billion.

Also, there are some estimates that the IRS employees cuts will be costing $240 billion per year, starting in FY26.

So if you believe that estimate and the DOGE estimate, then Trump and DOGE have cost the American Tax Payers $60 billion for the next fiscal year. And that's assuming the DOGE are correct this time, when they have been BS in the past.

Using the most independent numbers, DOGE has cost the American tax payers $225 billions.


So yes, DOGE "saved" ($15 to $180 billion), but they also costed ($240 billion) for a net loss.
WestonTexan · 18-21, M
Specious. It's something that sounds good but ultimately doesn't mean much. It's not as if the government finds "waste" and then more money ends up in the pocket of the average voter. That's what they want you to think it means, though.
I'm pretty sure spending went up, especially with the new government contracts.

Not down... and more money is being wasted, not less money, Elon got his new government contracts and percentage wise saved almost nothing.

Even if you believe the DOGE numbers (which have consistently been proven extremely wrong when they release enough information to fact check them), even if you believe them...

Elon promised 2 trillion, but DOGE has only claimed 180 Billion, and a majority of that is probably a lie and failing to factor in DOGE cost, cost to employees and the new contracts that have gone to Musk and Trump's buddies.

If you look at the net amounts, they surely have lost more money than saved.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
One man's waste is another man's goal. I don't think at any point that DOGE tried to clarify the definition of waste

For all their claims of fraud and abuse, there hasn't been a single indictment or even attempt to hold anybody accountable. Makes me wonder how much of what they say is waste is actually truly worthless, unnecessary spending
acpguy · C
Most likely true the hard part is to get the liberals to stop wasting money and even harder is trying to take away what they have cheated us out of.
Magenta · F
Of course there is mega government waste, has been for a long time, who could not know that.
The notion that he's doing it to confiscate funds for himself is insanely hilarious. He is the richest man alive already. 😄🙄
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Probably translates more truthfully as
Here's earmarked money we can misapropriate into things that benefit us specifically
Allelse · 36-40, M
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
What, they checked their own budget and expense accounts?
the Dems oppose it because it's putting untold amounts in their pockets
Sure, because they think education and healthcare are a waste when they see people as a means for productivity and wealth gain.
meJess · F
It would be hard not to find government waste
iamthe99 · M
It's a lie.
Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
Ketamine fueled ambitions and lies 🤷‍♂
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Lies upon lies upon lies.
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