Socialism is ace. Like George orwell said, its makes sense

@Emosaur

Hab' nie einen Deutschkurs genommen, sondern habe ich als Kind Deutsch von meiner Grossmutter gelernt. "Geh zu" ist bayerischer Dialekt (vielleicht altmodisch?), der verwendet ist, wenn jemand Unsinn redet, so wie "go on"auf Englisch.

@BohemianBoo

[quote]"Gib einfach zu dass du autoritär bist." [/quote]

Quatsch. Man kann konservativ sein, ohne autoritaer zu sein.

[quote]"...so sehr kann ich wenigstens ihre Ehrlichkeit respektieren."
[/quote]

Merkwuerdich... Ich habe keinen Respekt vor der "Ehrlichkeit" der Nazis.
Vielleicht bist [i]du[/i] der Autoritaere...? 🤔

@Thinkerbell [quote]Quatsch. Man kann konservativ sein, ohne autoritaer zu sein.[/quote]

Stimmt, aber Konservative glauben nicht an die Demokratie. Sie sehen sie als etwas an, mit dem sie umgehen müssen. Die amerikanischen Konservativen haben die Demokratie vollständig abgelehnt, weil sie erkannt haben, dass sie keine Wahlen mehr gewinnen können. Aber weil Konservative so Muschis sind, können sie das nicht öffentlich zugeben.

[quote]Merkwuerdich... Ich habe keinen Respekt vor der "Ehrlichkeit" der Nazis.[/quote]

Das liegt daran, dass es dir nur um Bilder geht. Du bist gegen Nazis und Tankies, obwohl deren Politik der deinen sehr ähnlich ist.

Ich respektiere Ehrlichkeit. Ich lehne alle Formen des Autoritarismus ab. Aber wenn jemand ein ehrliches Argument gegen die Demokratie vorbringt, wie es Nazis oft tun, ok, dann können wir wenigstens eine echte Debatte führen.

@PatKirby you are such a delluded speciman

@PatKirby are you physically incapable of saying anything of substance?

@Thinkerbell the "western world" isnt built on any sense of moral. Its built on power and profits. It also has a history of blatant racism and sexism

@Guitarman123

That may be true, but the West in general is at least a century ahead of China and Russia in overcoming that history.

@Thinkerbell i wish that was true but the west has a long way still to go. People Crying about preserving western traditions doesn't help

@jackjjackson yet you're still here

Nothing is more satisfying than lampooning a douchebag on her own thread 😂 @Guitarman123

@jackjjackson if you say so

@Guitarman123 yes shocking when totalitarians clash

@Slade

Mussolini was indeed once far left, but when he founded the Fascisti, he dropped all ideas of communal ownership of the means of production. Fascist Italy never abolished private corporations.

The transition from far left to far right is not difficult, particularly at lower levels. Lots of former Red Front bully boys in Germany joined the Storm Troopers when the Nazis took over. They just liked to brawl, so whose heads they were breaking didn't make much difference to them, nor did ideology.

@Slade gramsci was a Marxist and vocal supporter of italian workers. He came up with the idea of cultural hegemony which he believed was how the capitalist class was able to maintain power over society

@Entwistle I didn't say it was anti-socialist either. That's not what you said originally.


You said it is about capitalism and not socialism. When he said it is about a failed socialist revolution. Which he said it was.

@MethDozer You appear to have trouble comprehending what i said.
I said 'its more recognizable within Capitalism'...some folk having more than others that is.

@Entwistle Okie dokie. 🤦

@PatKirby we both know you make nothing and that you have no substance

@Guitarman123

Such envy will earn you nothing except regret and disappointment. But I'm sure you're familiar with that.

@PatKirby envy of what? A stupid little mouse of a man whos desperate for attention?

@BritishFailedAesthetic someone who stood by his values and saw the so called british empire for what is

@Guitarman123 Thanks for your very honest answer.

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout capitalists see workers as mere cogs. Socialists support workers rights

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Utter nonsense.

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Socialism isn't the same as Communism

@SW-User im the smartest idiot EVER

@LeopoldBloom Bingo.. Trade is the key here. Israel took a resource poor lump of desert and tilled and watered it till it produced Citrus, then traded those and kept working and plowing back the profits..For that they needed efficiencies that communist centralised economies infamously lack..😷

@whowasthatmaskedman The kibbutzim that were established in Israel after its independence were closer to communist than any nominally communist country. Some of them even forbade personal possessions. Israel's success was due in part to them. However, they weren't isolated, so they wouldn't qualify as pure communist.

@LeopoldBloom We could debate just how much isolation was really required for a Communist set up. But I think we care close enough for agreement. The interesting part is that with total effort and no corruption caused waste, the model was internationally competitive with primary produce..😷

@BritishFailedAesthetic churchill praised mussolini and called him a great roman leader

@Guitarman123 Opinions change- I'm sure he didn't later.

@BritishFailedAesthetic churchill would have approved of hitler had he not invaded poland. Both nationalists and both despised socialist

@Guitarman123 No offense, but you kind of just spout socialist platitudes about everything.

@Bumbles dont know what that means

Years ago I got in trouble for living like a wild man with no government.

I burned all my identification, proof of who I was and went and lived in the wild mountains for a couple of years.

I was actually happy with my life. No government, no authority to rule my life.

Just me living off the land.

They caught me, accused me of crimes, charged my trespassing and bunch more shit

My uncle was a great lawyer at the time (he passed away) got 99% of the charges dismissed if I agree to live with permanent address

I never felt free or truly happy ever since

Government stole my freedom

@Emosaur I don't want government to exist at all.

I am forced to live like a slave to a government I don't want. Forced to pay taxes, forced to live where I don't want to live.

Forced forced and forced or be jailed for no complying

How is that freedom

@2cool4school But some animals are more equal than others..😷

@2cool4school great book

@BritishFailedAesthetic orwell was a democratic socialist

@Guitarman123 Key words- DEMOCRATIC. The people can opt out at anytime.

@BritishFailedAesthetic he was very supportive of workers rights. Fought in the spanish civil war alongside communists and anarchists