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Same sex mariage is a violation of Catholic Church doctrine.

The Church teaches that marriage is a union between a woman and a man. This has nothing to do with the law of nature that science has final say based on empirical findings. The scientist is not ordained by God.

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CassandraSissy · 26-30, T
And the church also teaches, sweetie, that only the 'big man' can ever truly say what is right and wrong.

The Bible repeatedly cautions believers to beware of false prophets, describing them as coming in "sheep's clothing" but being "ravenous wolves" (Matthew 7:15) and as deceitful workers disguising themselves as apostles of Christ (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)

. False prophets often promote teachings that contradict God’s Word, introduce destructive heresies, or deny Christ, bringing swift destruction upon themselves (2 Peter 2:1)

. They may perform signs and wonders to mislead, even attempting to deceive the elect (Matthew 24:24)

So, until I'm at the Pearly Gates and he has his say, I'll carry on as a trans, loving my man..

😘
@CassandraSissy By then it will be too late for you though.
CassandraSissy · 26-30, T
@Magicianzini Nah, sweetie. Me an' god, we have a connection.

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sree251 · 46-50, M
@CassandraSissy a god with a sexual connection isn't the one that created the world in 7 days.
Penny · 46-50, F
love is higher than hate
sree251 · 46-50, M
@Penny Catholics don't hate gay people because there are no gays in their church. The Bible can be interpreted any number of ways to make Catholics wrong. Chastity is moral virtue as Catholics see it. You are allowed to see it some other way. And if you do, just don't come to a Catholic Church.
Penny · 46-50, F
@sree251I thought I heard the new Pope was welcoming gay people.
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It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@Royricky09 No, it's Adam and a rib.
@Royricky09 How do you know? Did you read the original or a translation?
TheLadyPotato · 31-35, F
What about two potatoes who want to get married?!!! Huh?! 🥔😡
In the eyes of the US law, marriage is a contract between two competent adults; a contract.

And this contract confers certain benefits on the two people in the couple. So if you're going to restrict marriage, you'd need a good reason for preventing same-sex couples from enjoying the benefits of the contract.

And, according to SCOTUS, the contents of some ancient book don't constitute a sufficient reason to deny the benefits of that contract to same sex couples.
@sree251 So the accurate modern phrase would be that the law is stubborn. I prefer the version "the wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine."

I've read some Dickens, all of Jane Austen, some Hardy, couple Conrads. Then, on a less elevated plane, most of Conan Doyle, some R. L. Stevenson, H.G. Wells, some Kipling, various other novels. I've probably read more American lit than English.
sree251 · 46-50, M
@ElwoodBlues You talk like AI.
@sree251 I get it. AI gave you that phrase ".. a famous idiom meaning the legal system or a specific rule can be foolish, stubborn, or contrary to common sense." AI gave you that phrase and now you're projecting😂🤣

How about you, do you read English lit and/or American lit??
There is no way I want to have to divorce my wife and marry another man. Oh wait, I don't have to do that? Never mind, I don't care then, as long as i have a choice, it is none of my business who people choose to marry.
Julien · 36-40, M
Genesis 4:9 :)
Are you a priest ? Who are you to judge :)
Persephonee · 26-30, F
@peterlee ✋Catholic.

Marriage being between a man and a woman is accepted doctrine and completely un-alterable.

Though there is scope for blessing two people who happen to be civilly "married" (I use inverted commas because the state sees a marriage but the Church doesn't, my own views are beside the point). Anyone, after all, can ask for and receive a blessing (you don't even need to be Catholic). The blessing simply can't ape or imply what the Church considers a sacramental marriage.

There are lots of very traditionalist Catholics who are quite uncomfortable with that, and frankly I am as well, but it's not because two people in love who happen to be of the same sex shouldn't have a blessing (IMO, they should, if they desire it and especially are well-disposed Catholics), but because it opens up the Church to massive internal divisions. (If we bicker about whether Mass should be in Latin or the vernacular, something like this is far worse. And arguably it muddies the waters a bit for people who don't understand the minutiae...like most secular media).

The Church does not teach that being gay is sinful and anyone who says otherwise is either misinformed or a contumacious heretic. Acting in some certain ways in light of being gay, is seen as sinful, but that's no different from anyone who's straight. (Since when did love get equated to sex anyone)?)

Fundamentally we are all very much sinners. And we welcome everyone. Or at least we should do.
sree251 · 46-50, M
@Persephonee
(Since when did love get equated to sex anyone)?)

What do you mean by love? My meaning of love is this wondrous attraction between me and a girl when I was seventeen and she was sixteen. The power of it alarmed every adult in the room. They all dismissed it as puppy love. I shouldn't have let them kill it for me. Now that I have experienced it, I know that attraction cannot be a same-sex thing.
peterlee · M
@Persephonee (Since when did love get equated to sex anyway)?)

My understanding is that sex is within marriage for a Christian. An act of giving.
Or at very least, within a relationship.
Atari2678 · 41-45, M
If I am right , does the Bible teach us that GOD created man and women first in his own image . Not Adam and Steve .
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sree251
There is nothing wrong with being what you are and feeling good about it. Having a hang up about other people being what they are is the bad thing.

The entire bracket of sociopaths and psychopaths thank you for your support.
But I'm not that nihilistic.
sree251 · 46-50, M
@Kwek00
The entire bracket of sociopaths and psychopaths thank you for your support.
But I'm not that nihilistic.

Can you unpack your point of view? What has what you say got to do with what I said? There is nothing wrong with opening up and sharing your hang ups.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sree251
There is nothing wrong with being a rapist and feeling good about it. Having a hang up about other people being what they are is the bad thing.

There is nothing wrong with being a serial killer that acts on his/her inner cravings and feeling good about it. Having a hang up about other people being what they are is the bad thing.

There is nothing wrong with being a pedophile that acts on his/her inner cravings and feeling good about it. Having a hang up about other people being what they are is the bad thing.
BohoBabe · M
All marriage is gay.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@BohoBabe This
peterlee · M
Churches are such unfriendly places.

We all rely on God’s Grace. His love is deeper than you think.
sree251 · 46-50, M
@val70 I do lack basic knowledge of TED talk bullshit delivered by evangelists, those zealous advocates who actively promote one specific pseudo science belief or another.
val70 · 56-60
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sree251 · 46-50, M
@val70 ok.
It doesn't matter unless you're a Catholic.

Over 2000 animal species engage in same-sex intercourse.

John Boswell's Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe argues that church-sanctioned same-sex marriage existed in the medieval Catholic and Byzantine churches.
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sree251 · 46-50, M
@jshm2 Abortion is not a Church concern. If people want to sin, please do it outside the Church. Just don't pee on the dicastery. Do it in the urinary.
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kodiac · 26-30, M
@peterlee Absolutely, it's not the flock it's the shepards
sree251 · 46-50, M
@kodiac What did @peterlee say? He was deleted before I could get to see it.
Fashion trends have nothing to do with the law of nature either
never understood how church or state ever had a say in who can and cant get married..
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Marriage is a legal contract, that's why.
@SunshineGirl la de dah….

I was just thinking .. I wonder what sunshinegirls 2 cents are?
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Glad to be of assistance 🙂
Too bad they don't have a doctrine that says priests shouldn't screw the altar boys...... and any other kid they can get their hands on.
@peterlee Perhaps but in the Catholic Church it's tradition. Records exist back centuries of hidden abuse. Nuns who had and killed babies..... abortions.... and in the 1960's until the early 2000's there was a constant string of victims suing the church.
sree251 · 46-50, M
@anythingoes477 Listening to gossip is an unhealthy trait similar to watching porn.
@sree251 Google history of Catholic priest child abuse. If you find anything there...... and you will... dozens and dozens of hits with cases.... when.... where...... names.... all you will see is documented facts... trials.... convictions. That's NOT gossip.
Alyosha · 36-40, M
The scientist describes what is. Reason has final say on how it should be.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
The church dominated by stupid men
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SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
The Church must respect the laws of the society in which it operates. That is all there is to be said.
sree251 · 46-50, M
@SunshineGirl No, no, no. RC doctrine is teaching accepted by people of the Catholic faith. If same sex marriage floats your boat, go for it.
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
@sree251 Very gracious of you.
sree251 · 46-50, M
@SunshineGirl I am. I grew up in New York City and lived among rats.
Convivial · 26-30, F
I think it's teachings have some good but also a whole load of harm... They are predominantly male teachings and often lack the empathy they espose
Convivial · 26-30, F
@sree251 as Galileo said... And yet it floats ;)
sree251 · 46-50, M
@Convivial What has Galileo got to do with holy matrimony? Get with it, girl.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@sree251 I would suggest you do your reading... When Galileo was being persecuted for saying the sun is in the centre and we revolve around it, the subject of iron not floating was raised by the church as an example of common sense.... But Galileo pointed out a needle could float due to surface tension with the now famous words " and yet it floats" .... ;)
Rabbit420 · M
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peterlee · M
@Rabbit420
News to me. I did not know that the paradigm of Quantum Physics and General Relativity says anything about God not being omniscient. I thought the current model proposed a big bang, with everything starting with a point mass, with space expanding after that. And that gravitational mass made three dimensional space warp.
Rabbit420 · M
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sree251 · 46-50, M
@pride49 Hey, nobody invited you in this discussion. You chose to come in.
pride49 · 31-35, M
@sree251 "What have you got to say?" Let people do what they want, keep religion out of politics. If a person tries to take the rights from others? Expect pushback. My opinion. Not happy with the Trump stuff happening and YouTube is depressing me 😑
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ElyssTTTrucks · 100+, M
The catholic church with it's long pedo history, is in no position to be judging others.

 
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