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I just had a really scary thought ....

Most of us assume rightly that tariffs and invading Canada and Greenland are just distractions to keep our mind off of the Epstein files... But what if we're wrong?

What if the Epstein files are part of the distraction so we don't see something else....

Be afwaid... Be very afwaid..
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
You may have a point but undermine your own case by starting, "Most us assume rightly...", which means you think almost everyone else agrees with your opinion.

I do not see the Epstein scandal as distracting from Trump's imperialist ambitions and clumsy fiscal policies, and those have always been very widely reported even if not mentioned much at the moment.

His wanting to take over Greenland surfaced in his first Presidentship, when he offered to buy the island - I don't recall him stating why, and the reason he offers now (the USA's military security) are not very credible. The two countries are not even neighbours.

It also blew up well after Trump imposed all those import taxes on goods.


The release of an astronomical number of pages of information (not all any "evidence" in law of individuals breaking the law) has certainly grabbed the headlines for now, and in many countries because they include foreigners as well as Americans. Not only for sexual wrongs although those seem to lead the reporting. Epstein's circles also included political and economic corruption and treason, separately from sexual illegality. His and Maxwell's sexual predations were evil, damaging many women's lives; treasonous acts encouraged by Epstein damages entire countries.

The sheer scale of the scandal might give Trump some awkward breathing-space while he tries to distance himself from any connection to Jeffrey Epstein; but mere distraction cannot hide anything. It simply, temporarily deflects attention from other matters.

I do not believe it a deliberate smokescreen; but something that has been simmering for a long time and had to break out eventually. I see its occurring alongside other matters, as co-incidental.

We could ask if it is distracting Trump himself from pushing for his other ambitions. It might, temporarily. He can't hide forever.

Br sheer co-incidence, this morning we learn of evidence that Donald Trump warned the Police of Epstein's behaviour some twenty years ago; but now denies that.

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One aspect of Trump's actions that has slipped from view for the time being, is Venezuela.

It's gone very quiet. What has happened there since the US government kidnapped its President Maduro while keeping his government as regional administrators under US control?

The reason was apparently for US oil firms' access - Oh, and perhaps breaking the cocaine trade - but reportedly the oil is of poor quality, difficult to extract, and the plant in poor condition; so is it commercially viable for those companies? Have they started work there?

Will the Venezuelans' standards of living improve thanks to US ensuring wise use of the normal taxes on the commercial income from revived oil exports - if the exports do happen?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Convivial Thankyou!
@Convivial Sadly, much more realistic than tongue in cheek considering the trajectory Demented Donnie has put our country and the entire world on…
Convivial · 26-30, F
@KunsanVeteran don't worry... His me board of peace will solve everything lol .. Have you read it's charter... It puts him in sole and total control lol
WestonTexan · 18-21, M
I don't know, but I'm really into the "Epstein is still alive" conspiracy theory. The more I read about it, the more I think it's possible. Lol. This is what the internet does to you. 😅
Charity · 70-79
Trump doesn't care about the Epstein files or how many times his name appears in it.
...... Trump said in 2016 he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose supporters, he doesn't give a hoot about the Epstein's files. He just don't like his personal business being in the streets.

And Trump is dead serious about Greenland and Canada, his interest is money, resources that is worth money, like the oil in Venezuela.

Tariffs are bringing in billions into the White House Treasury - there is no distraction, it's about money and odds are a lot of that money is going / will go into his accounts. I mean after all he and his puppy is over the US Treasury, they make the reports - and you know Trump demands loyalty - and hires crooks - therefore trump can say you're in it as deep as I am.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Charity Thankyou for the information about the oil. I'd not known the Texan and Gulf refineries are already capable of handling the heavier crude types.

Oh, everything Trump says is money-related somehow. Everything is a "deal" or transaction. Even back in 2016, when he came to the UK on a State Visit - I think he invited himself - he talked of wanting to buy Greenland and hinted at also wanting Britain's National Health Service. Prior to that most of we Britons knew of him only as some American property-speculator who was somehow allowed to destroy a 'Site of Special Scientific Interest (legally-protected land) in Scotland merely to build an exclusive golf-course and hotel.

I think he will come a cropper eventually, but it may be from his own Party eventually deciding he is a liability. He will have only himself to blame. Except of course he will blame everyone else.

I gather his, or his government's, handling of the US economy is fairly good; but it's his international actions that are the problem; based on a strange mixture of isolationism and expansionism, and larded with unpredictability.


I think I would trust that figure from US Customs. They would have no reason to give wrong figures, especially when it looks such a lot of money going to the US Treasury.


Would those women testify against Mr. Trump? Possibly not while he is President, but once his term ends presumably he will become just an oridnary US citizen; and with Epstein dead and Maxwell in prison assuming Trump does not "pardon" her to the point of release, he will be much weaker.

(Interesting word, "pardon". Ghislaine Maxwell wants the President to pardon her, but in doing so she is admitting her own guilt, and if he were to grant her wish - which I think unlikely - he would be confirming it. You can only pardon the guilty.)
swirlie · 31-35
@ArishMell
American refineries were set up to handle the heavy crude that Canada was selling to the US from the Alberta Tar Sands Project. What the US is not set up to handle is the very high Bitumen and high sulphur content that is extracted from that heavy crude. Until fairly recently, those American refineries you make reference to where originally set up to refine sweet crude, not heavy crude. The problem is, the USA cannot get sweet crude which is why it modified it's existing refineries to handle the heavy, poor quality crude oil.
Charity · 70-79
@ArishMell
Thank you

I too believe that US customs are giving fairly accurate numbers.

Trump lost the presidency in 2020 and no female came forth....... They use the words 1 of 4 survivors of the known females youths who met Trump at Epstein's testified in court and never said Trump had any sexual encounters with her ........... Now for anyone over 18 unless it could be proven rape or them being drugged would have no win in court, it would be said any sexual encounters were dual consent........ But then we never know it took over 20-30 years for Cosby's doing to come out, and there is Harvey Weinstein. Took a few years for P Diddy's exploits to come out but if you notice they only seem to be after the head / heads and not the participants, Trump would have been a participant.

Since Maxwell has been found guilty, she can receive a pardon because a jury of her peers found her guilty would be the reason The pardon would be given. And if the US can get him out of office in 2026 if he was going to give a pardon to Maxwell that would be the time frame he would do it, in my opinion and I think he will.
BrandonWyatt36 · 36-40, M
I wouldn't disagree... You might be on to something... Good observation 👍👍
Convivial · 26-30, F
@BrandonWyatt36 mainly said in jest tbh...
Confined · 56-60, M
swirlie · 31-35
Don't worry Convivial, the US military has lost every war it ever started in the last 214 years, starting with the War of 1812.

The last time the US tried to annex a foreign land and call it part of America was in fact the War of 1812, where the US tried 7 times and failed 7 times to annex what is now Canada. The British Army forced the US Army back south across the border despite the US having a military that was 10 times larger than the British Army.

Upon arriving back home in Washington DC with their tails between their legs and having several days to get their story straight before reporting back to the President, the US Army discovered the White House totally engulfed in flames upon their arrival home. The Brits had actually arrived there first and torched the US White House before the US Army made it back home.

Case in point, 9-11. Osama Bin Ladin showed the world how weak, unprepared and basically ineffective the US military really is and how totally inept the US government is at protecting it's own land.

The problem with the US military is that it too is inept, but inept at strategic planning and always has been. That is why the US came out the losers of Vietnam, Afghanistan and Panama just to name a few since 1958.

Therefore, be only afraid of what the global response will be if the US ever tries to pull that same arrogant stunt again with Canada or even Greenland.
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@Vin53 i don't think the cup will be awarded on canadian soil this year 🤣...hasn't been since 1993 .... but then again if it's rewarded to any one of the teams in cali (sharks, ducks, kings) trump will give them full authority to do so...with the help of the national guard
Vin53 · M
@beermeplease Mark Carney reminds Trump that Canada paid for key border bridge US president says he won’t open

Trump earlier had ranted against bridge and also warned that China would ‘terminate’ hockey in Canada
Vin53 · M
@beermeplease Comedian Mark Critch summed up a weary disbelief among Canadians: "Saying we can't cross a bridge is epic troll behaviour."
Ynotisay · M
I think with or without the Epstein files the overriding goals would still be in play. The chaos strategy is too clear.
@Ynotisay The Epstein files have already had a noticeable derogatory effect on tRUMP’s misadministration—especially with Lugnut being caught in multiple lies in multiple interviews & hearings.

Thus far nothing has drew his own party’s ire to such an extent. Even the extrajudicial murders by him and Kegsbreath.

And now we have tRUMP’s name appearing over one MILLION times in the unredacted Epstein files!
Ynotisay · M
@KunsanVeteran Yep. A million times. And all the files have yet to be released. And you KNOW that's where the real shit lives.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
All three are massive distractions from the fact that Trump is way out of his depth and doesn't have a clue about government.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SunshineGirl trump's weakness and incompetence are actually good for smaller countries such as mine.
He is destroying America's influence and global standing, thus allowing us to find more oxygen as well as forming new and better relationships that exclude US
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SumKindaMunster · 56-60, M
They should put your profile in the TDS museum as an example of the illness.
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Vin53 · M
I, for one, welcome the end of humanity and all its prevails.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
It'll be the end of civilization as we know it, and I can't wait.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Then a lot of American service people are going to end up very dead..Blowing up an unarmed speedboat is one thing. Sending in troops to take and hold a foreign country gets nasty..😷
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@KunsanVeteran You list name-calling - perhaps that's one of the obstacles to overcoming the chaos because it smothers proper, civilised analysis and discussion.

All countries have their individual, internal problems - the USA is no more or less immune to them than any other even though the difficulties vary considerably from nation to nation - but while people are merely hurling invective at each other they are not suggesting how to address their problems.

 
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