More social democrat probably is best description of me. As a youngster j would say socialist and I'm still considerably to the left politically but I'm not so sure about Clause IV as I was then.
Original Clause IV text
To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service.
Socialist is a word than MAGAts and extreme righties want to use to denigrate Democrats. Real democrats are not socialists. We are capitalists who believe that capitalism needs more controls because our existing laws favor the wealthy and unequally funnel money to them (who by the way own the lawmakers).
You only need one example to demonstrate that what I said is true: The top 144 individuals in America own more wealth than the bottom 155,000,000 people.
@MoveAlong You sound very much like a socialist, yet you claim not to be one. You want more taxes on those you perceive to be wealthy, free community colleges, minimum wage increase, and so on.
@emiliya @emiliya I don't know where I would place the line for "higher Income". I can tell you that when Donald Trump made multibillions and paid about $2.5M over 5 years that would definitely qualify as a higher income person not paying their fair share.
I don't have socialist ideas. I have liberal ideas.
@MoveAlong Congress does not want to do more about it. Do you think any good would come from it if they did? What would the government do with the additional money? The same as they currently do?
if I think about it I guess I am. he works, I don't, he gives me money, a place to live, health care, food clothing and a car to drive. I clean house, cook and take care of the kids. maybe I should stop identifying as an American-Italian and relate as an Illegal alien
@saragoodtimes no, you are a stay home wife. Not the same. Socialism is a specific political philosophy that has become made into a position of hate for the radical right who have no idea why some socialism is part of modern society for it to function for the good of the people
No , we have some socialist type programs in the USA but we are still mainly capitalists Socialism to me is no private enterprise and the state owns or controls all means of production
@JimboSaturn communism follows socialism for sure, and for the record....
socialism is an economic and political system where all means of production are owned and controlled collectively or by the state, with the aim of eliminating private property and ensuring that goods and services are distributed based on need rather than profit. In this system, the government typically makes all decisions regarding production and distribution to promote equality and meet the basic needs of the population.
@FreeSpirit1 Where did you get that definition, because it's incorrect. Socialist countries all over the world have free markets and private enterprise. That IS NOT the definition of socialism.
Socialism is full democracy. It's democracy, not just of the government, but of all big corporations. That's what Marx and Engels meant when they said the workers should control the means of production.
Hell, no! Socialism is a failed system that exploits the workers, and offers no hope of improvement or advancement, while enriching the few at the top.
