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LeopoldBloom · M
No, we just won't have any cell phones except the Librum, which is a Linux-based phone and the only one made in the US. People who really want iPhones or Samsung will pay the tariffs. If you think inflation is bad now, wait until there's a tariff on everything made overseas.
Just curious, we're at nearly full employment now. If he uses the Army to round up all of the illegal immigrants and deports them, where are we supposed to get the workers to fill their jobs, not to mention the new ones in manufacturing that he thinks tariffs will create?
Just curious, we're at nearly full employment now. If he uses the Army to round up all of the illegal immigrants and deports them, where are we supposed to get the workers to fill their jobs, not to mention the new ones in manufacturing that he thinks tariffs will create?
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LeopoldBloom · M
@Dshhh The Librem is a niche product as it's not compatible with Android or iOS apps. It runs Linux apps same as a Linux desktop, and in fact can function as a desktop if you attach an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse. It's main selling points are modularity (components can be swapped out) and extreme privacy (it has kill switches that cut power to the camera, microphone, Bluetooth, etc.). The drawback is that since everything is on a separate chip, the circuit board is larger and more power-intensive.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom The ONLY thing that causes INFLATION is too many dollars chasing too many goods. The Bidenflation was caused by those TRILLIONS OF STIMULUS DOLLARS he flooded our economy with.
A Tariff is not an instrument of inflation. It has NOTHING to do with the money supply.
A Tariff is not an instrument of inflation. It has NOTHING to do with the money supply.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Reason10 You're forgetting the disruptions to the supply chain caused by COVID. Inflation was worldwide, not just in the US. The Trump stimulus dollars also had an effect.
Tariffs are passed on to the consumer, so they result in higher prices even if it's not strictly "inflation" by your definition. Unless you think the corporations will just eat the tariffs and settle for lower profits.
Tariffs are passed on to the consumer, so they result in higher prices even if it's not strictly "inflation" by your definition. Unless you think the corporations will just eat the tariffs and settle for lower profits.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
So you have no problem with SLAVERY?
https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-forced-uighur-labor-iphone-factory-2020-3
Apple's suppliers in China use thousands of displaced Uighurs for labour, according to a new report from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.
The report is wide-ranging and focuses on a coordinated government campaign to move and displace Uighurs, a Muslim minority found mostly in Xinjiang province. The report estimates that between 2017 and 2019 some 80,000 Uighurs were forcibly transferred to work in factories across China.
The relocation programme is part of the Chinese government's broader persecution of the Uighur minority, which is predominantly Muslim. Over 1 million Uighur people in Xinjiang have been imprisoned in detention camps, and the government has launched a program paying Chinese men to sleep with Uighur women which was described as "mass rape" by one Uighur activist.
Although the report highlights that the displaced Uighur workers are present in many different companies' supply chains including Nike, BMW, and Amazon, Apple features prominently as a case study.
ASPI found evidence of forced Uighur labor at four separate factories in Apple's supply chain including the Foxconn Zhengzhou facility — a massive factory known colloquially as "iPhone City" that employs up to 350,000 people and produces over half of the world's iPhones. Totalling the figures from ASPI's report, at least 2,700 Uighur people have been transferred into Apple's supply chain since 2017.
Do you think a country that competes with the United States by using SLAVE LABOR should be allowed to get away with it?
https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-forced-uighur-labor-iphone-factory-2020-3
Apple's suppliers in China use thousands of displaced Uighurs for labour, according to a new report from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.
The report is wide-ranging and focuses on a coordinated government campaign to move and displace Uighurs, a Muslim minority found mostly in Xinjiang province. The report estimates that between 2017 and 2019 some 80,000 Uighurs were forcibly transferred to work in factories across China.
The relocation programme is part of the Chinese government's broader persecution of the Uighur minority, which is predominantly Muslim. Over 1 million Uighur people in Xinjiang have been imprisoned in detention camps, and the government has launched a program paying Chinese men to sleep with Uighur women which was described as "mass rape" by one Uighur activist.
Although the report highlights that the displaced Uighur workers are present in many different companies' supply chains including Nike, BMW, and Amazon, Apple features prominently as a case study.
ASPI found evidence of forced Uighur labor at four separate factories in Apple's supply chain including the Foxconn Zhengzhou facility — a massive factory known colloquially as "iPhone City" that employs up to 350,000 people and produces over half of the world's iPhones. Totalling the figures from ASPI's report, at least 2,700 Uighur people have been transferred into Apple's supply chain since 2017.
Do you think a country that competes with the United States by using SLAVE LABOR should be allowed to get away with it?
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@BohemianBabe Once again you should the disadvantages of being socially promoted in an inferior blue state public school system. Nobody suggested that China would be paying the tariffs. Companies like FoxConn barely pay workers.
So I guess you're okay with American companies and retailers getting a nice little break with CHINESE SLAVE LABOR.
Explains why you DemoNazis fought the Civil War to maintain American slavery.
So I guess you're okay with American companies and retailers getting a nice little break with CHINESE SLAVE LABOR.
Explains why you DemoNazis fought the Civil War to maintain American slavery.
BohemianBabe · M
@Reason10
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Trump, your cult-leader, thinks that's how tariffs work.
Nobody suggested that China would be paying the tariffs.
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Trump, your cult-leader, thinks that's how tariffs work.
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BohemianBabe · M
He doesn't know how tariffs work.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@BohemianBabe you’re top notch dude ! Respect .
BohemianBabe · M
@AthrillatheHunt I'm literally the best person here.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@BohemianBabe top 5 for sure. Haha
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
If he achieves this and expels 11 million immigrants, the cost of producing this all-American phone will be so high that no one will be able to afford to buy it without goernment subsidy.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl If he achieves this and expels 11 million immigrants, the cost of producing this all-American phone will be so high that no one will be able to afford to buy it without goernment subsidy.
What do those illegal alien animals have to do with the cost of an Iphone? If President Trump expels them, he will have saved America TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in welfare payments.
Those animals didn't swim the Rio Grande just to get a job.
What do those illegal alien animals have to do with the cost of an Iphone? If President Trump expels them, he will have saved America TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in welfare payments.
Those animals didn't swim the Rio Grande just to get a job.
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
An iphone 16 if made in the usa would cost around 3000 dollars if made by properly paid us workers in a proper factory with proper manufacturing and labour practises. Tim Cook would have no job as apple would cease to exist.
Just like here in Australia consumers have got used to cheap imported goods made where quality doesn't matter and human rights no longer apply.
Just like here in Australia consumers have got used to cheap imported goods made where quality doesn't matter and human rights no longer apply.
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Lhayezee Well when you can't get fixed line phones anymore (as in the case here where NBN replaced nearly all fixed-line phone services in Australia except rural areas) a mobile phone is the only way to make/receive calls/messages, etc. But I own a Sonim phone. US brand, but again made in China like all other phones.
The man is wearing a Chinese Tie. How gullible can you get?
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JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
Hehhe, someone needs a lesson in economics.
jehova · 31-35, M
Tariffs are trade barriers that raise prices, reduce available quantities of goods and services for US businesses and consumers
That equates to higher prices. Many products are only produced foreignly. Also america imports lots of raw materials. Goods cost more ppl buy less tarriffs wont help.
That equates to higher prices. Many products are only produced foreignly. Also america imports lots of raw materials. Goods cost more ppl buy less tarriffs wont help.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
No. GM and Ford will move to China. The good news is the quality will improve and the price will drop...😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom And still be cheaper than they are now...😷
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom
What if the Chinese set up companies in the US the way the Japanese did? Will that work?
If they move to China, they will become Chinese companies and subject to Trump's tariffs.
What if the Chinese set up companies in the US the way the Japanese did? Will that work?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@sree251 It already does. Just not with China yet. The largest BMW plant in the world is, I believe , in Tennessee. (pardon if I got the state wrong. But its around there)😷
Anniedlr · 26-30, F
And what happens to American Companies trade if China applies identical tariffs on American goods
Dshhh · M
nope he LOVES Xi
but the Iphone is made in about 6 nations,
then assembled in china
but the Iphone is made in about 6 nations,
then assembled in china
BizSuitStacy · M
Bring manufacturing back to the US
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
Nope Russia will get the contract
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
elons teasing his own ph that dont share your data with everyone..
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hunkalove · 61-69, M
It doesn't work like that.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
I don’t think so. Haha
Serkan · 61-69, M
I hope
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