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Could MAGA Republicans choose the number one reason for preferring Trump to more traditional Republicans like Romney or McCain?

Poll - Total Votes: 22
The fact that he‘s not a career politician
His rejection of political correctness
The way in which he uniquely irritates liberal Democrats
His more hawkish views on immigration
His support for tariffs and embrace of unions
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Embrace of unions? He was totally against unions when he was president. Even when running for reelection, while Biden was speaking to unions, Trump was speaking to scabs pretending to be pro-union.
The real reason people still like Trump is because they're miserable so they want to make things worse for the rest of us.
@Sarah41 I know, I'm just saying that having a market doesn't mean it's further from Socialism. I'd say those countries are closer because they're further along with decommodification and their unions are very strong.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@JustDJ76
Financially, I was better off under Trump.

You do realize that that can be read as, "Financially, I was better off under Speaker Nancy Pelosi."
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe
Most Democrats are lying when they say they want to raise the minimum wage, that's why they're not trying. It's only the so-called far Left of the party that is actually fighting for a living wage.

If Congress were being run by a Majority Leader like Sen. Robert Byrd and a Speaker like Tip O'Neill, Jim Wright or Tom Foley, the minimum wage would have not only been raised during Obama's first two years in office while the Democrats had a clear majority in both chambers than no one or two senators could block, but it would have been indexed to inflation, too.

Prior to 1988, work places with more than 50 employees didn't have to give any warning when they were shutting down. When the Democrat-controlled Congress passed a law requiring 60 days notice, President Ronald Reagan vetoed it and Congress failed to override the veto. But Sen. Robert Byrd, unlike Sen. Chuck Schumer, was a master of Senate rules and procedures. He brought the bill back up shortly before the general election. President Reagan then had two choice: sign the bill or veto it and thereby hurt Vice President George Bush's election chances. Rather than risk the election for the Republicans, Reagan decided on the former.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1988/5/25/president-vetoes-trade-bill-pwashington-president-reagan/

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1988/06/23/Senate-considers-plant-closing-notice-again/5496583041600/

https://www.csmonitor.com/1988/0803/afill03.html

Would it have been better for the Dukakis campaign had Reagan had vetoed the bill just before Labor Day? That's a no-brainer. But it was better for workers to have that plant closure legislation became law than to use it as a campaign issue.

It's the same thing with the minimum wage. Democrats today like having the issue to bash Republicans on it. And it works - when you have (or win) a big majority in Congress.

President Truman said it best in 1948.

"(Republicans) favor a minimum wage — the smaller the minimum the better."

President Truman campaigned on raising it!

Truman was elected and (as Obama would do 60 years later) flipped both chambers of Congress to majorities of 54-42 in the Senate and 262-171-2 in the House.

And within 12 months of winning the 1948 election he had signed legislation that nearly DOUBLED the minimum wage from five years earlier. It was the biggest - and still is - largest percentage increase per year in the history of raising the minimum wage.

Obama came in with a 56-40-2 Democrat margin in the Senate and 257-178 in the House. During the first two years of his first term, the Democrats FAILED to pass legislation to raise the minimum wage (and failed to at least tie it to inflation). The argument against pushing for an increase was that the bill raising the minimum wage from $5.15/hour in steps to $7.25/hour that President Bush signed in 2007 was to take effect on July 24, 2009.)

At one point the Democrat margin (with two independents) in the Senate was a filibuster proof 60-40. Did Obama push to raise it? No. The priority was the ACA (i.e. ObamaCare). That cost the Democrats BOTH chambers of Congress.

And for what? He could have easily got a stand-alone bill passed for a ban on pre-existing exclusions.

Another piece of legislation that could have been passed had been proposed by Sen. John McCain: tax credits of $5,000 for a family and $2,500 for an individual would be indexed annually for inflation and available to Americans regardless of income, employment, or tax liability. Any remaining balance of the credit could be deposited into an "expanded" health savings account (HSA). A Guaranteed Access Plan (GAP) would have been created for those who insurers deemed "uninsurable."

But a combination of banning pre-existing exclusions AND full tax credits indexed to inflation (regardless of income or the amount of income tax paid) would have been easier to get passed - and may have saved the Democrats from losing control of Congress in 2010 as it would have had the backing of a decent amount of Republicans.

Instead, we were left with the ACA, which "solved" the "uninsured" problem by REQUIRING people to buy a product from a FOR-PROFIT company (or from a state run pool) with no meaningful price controls. Blue-collar workers with so-called "Cadillac" insurance plans got shafted, having giving up wage increases in exchange for good health insurance.

While the ACA provides for tax credits adjusted for inflation to go towards paying for health insurance (phased out gradually as one's income is higher), the McCain plan was to index a fully refundable tax credit to purchase health insurance to inflation with the taxpayer KEEPING any balance left over into a HSA (and able to be used for any medical purpose, including paying deductibles and co-pays). The ACA tax credit does NOT allow one to do that.
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
We don't like WAR mangers
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@gol979 It's strange to be hoisted by your own petard? I find it par for the course on here.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@SumKindaMunster from your way of thinking you are biden then. Idpol at its finest
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@gol979 Sure whatever. Sorry you were offended. 😘
jenniferthompson · 46-50, F
McCain and Romney wanted to start WWIII
jenniferthompson · 46-50, F
@Elessar he ordered the coup in February 2014 that led to war...I guess the coup came back and got him 😂
Elessar · 26-30, M
@jenniferthompson In which alternate reality? The fact you're making excuses for Russia is quite telling about where your propaganda comes out from lol
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TexChik · F
I choose all of the above on your poll. Romney and McCain were not traditional Republicans, they were rinos on the take.
azgp01 · 70-79, M
Plus, McCain and Romney are RINO’s.
@azgp01 True, they never swore an oath of loyalty to Trump.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@azgp01
McCain and Romney are RINO’s.

Heartlander · 80-89, M
I think both Romney and McCain were long on talk and short on action and spent too much time embracing the left. For very leftist he/they convinced they lost two conservatives.

Beyond his experience as a POW, McCain had little substance to lean on and his obstructive stance seemed to have little more substance than his own chest pounding. Being an obstructionist in congress IMO mean he was unable to influence whatever legislation he was obstructing, so beyond the leftist press, no one really paid much attention to him.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
I dislike Trump for a variety of reasons, but he's done one thing few others in politics is willing to try: he goes after elites

He got his start accusing Obama of being born in Kenya. I mean, how crazy is it that the Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful military in the world ends up caving to the insane ramblings of a reality TV show host?

Then he went after the shady Clintons, then the dishonest reporting of the media, then he publicly questioned military intelligence following the wars in the Middle East.

He's a liar, he's a crook, he's a predator, but at least he's able to stoke and direct populist rage at some of people and institutions that routinely ignore them
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@NativePortlander1970
He got his start accusing Obama of being born in Kenya.

Learn to read. Trump was a Democrat until Obama took office. When the birther movement came out, he used that to elevate his political profile with numerous television appearances. He used that media spotlight to announce he was considering running for president

BTW, there's never been a shred of proof that Hillary started the conspiracy theory. You gotta stop believing everything you read on the internet
@TinyViolins I would like to think the BBC is quite credible.
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37391652
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@NativePortlander1970 Again, that doesn't prove that Hillary started it. It clearly mentions that it was her supporters. Not even people connected to her campaign or the DNC. It's just people who liked her as a candidate

Even then, it doesn't absolve Trump of embracing and promoting this theory for several years
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Romney has a conscience so there are some things he wouldn't do.

Trump on the other hand has no conscience and so is prepared to do anything for a price.

That is the major difference
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 Or maybe he wasn't prepared to let his own religion get in the way of others medical need.

You might want to think on that.
@Picklebobble2 You do realize that medical need abortions are less than 1.5%, right?
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 You do realise that so much of everything you quote is not only untrue 70% of it is unverifiable ?

That's what makes responding to you so difficult.
I spend half my time trying to work out where on earth you get your numbers from.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Trump is not a politician. He owes nothing to any group
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Patriot96 Including the American people, apparently
He's not a career politician and he doesn't need the job.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@NoThanksLeon lololol, Berlusconism has truly taken over America

"Unlike his predecessors, he's already a billionaire so he won't have the urge to steal"
beckyromero · 36-40, F
Trump is very anti-union. Probably the most anti-union president since Herbert Hoover.

https://cwa-union.org/trumps-anti-worker-record
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@hippyjoe1955
I am very physically fit and I like to eat a balanced diet. I love to drink water as well. I don't do it to stay healthy. I do it because I like to keep in shape. I

How would you know whether drinking water helps keep you in shape?

Are you a clinical biochemist?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@beckyromero Polio was past before I ever got it. I had measles and mumps and chicken pox and.... they were kids illness and I recovered very easily. I am now immune. I had to laugh a number of years ago. There was a radio news article warning people to stay away from a certain store where one of the clerks was found to have measles. Everyone was to stay away from the store - except those of us over a certain age who had had measles as a child. Somehow the measles vax doesn't confer the same level of immunity. Amazing.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@beckyromero I have no idea. I simply mentioned that I have always enjoyed drinking water. My wife prefers to drink milk or juice. I prefer water.
thats exactly it.. he's a non traditional rino spineless dem cock holster controlled opposition.

if ppl dont get it by now. that a vote for trump is a vote against the past 50 years status quo uni party sell outs.. they'l never get it

fancy being told trump is bad yo!
but hey. lets stick with chuck shumer and nancy polowsi and mcconnell and paul ryan in the shadows.

brillient
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Sarah41
seriously… could you both at least try and stay on subject?

Sure/sorry.

Trump does NOT embrace unions.

And I think a couple options were left out:

his vile racism
his misogynistic views
his celebrity status

and, no doubt, as @hippyjoe1955 might be impying, Trump's intial lack of support for a vaccine.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@beckyromero Your judgement of character is severely out of whack. Kind of like your understanding of health.
mainvane · 61-69, M
Some of the above....but Pres. Trump wants to retain the rights and freedoms granted American citizens in our founding documents...the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
He’s not a traditional Republican. McCain huffed and puffed a lot but otherwise shot blanks. Romney isn’t a leader.

I’m not a Republican.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
He makes them feel all tingly inside. His whining. His grievances. His sense of being a victim and how he talks about how rotten life is and how horrible America is. And, the way he uses so much make-up and hair spray. That just can't compare to Romney or McCain.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
The traditional repusivegans are too repulsive. They want exactly what the demoncraps want only they want to be in power when the evil happens.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@hippyjoe1955 patton said it best .
Politicians are the lowest form of life.
Democrats are the lowest of Politicians
Captainjackass · 31-35, M
I think they tend to support him because he gives them an excuse to hate others and his racism.
He’s definitely a career politician now. It’s his only option to make money.
Richardfromthebx2 · 36-40, M
No one knows what Trump and his cronies say in private
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Richardfromthebx2 · 36-40, M
Because they're White supremacist and don't admit that publicly
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
All of the above ...

... he was asked to run for President because with him being a Billionaire, he was above corruption, so the perfect person to drain the Swamp
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beckyromero · 36-40, F
@hippyjoe1955

Then they could have supported Sen. Rand Paul.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@beckyromero Rand is running for president? I did not know that.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@hippyjoe1955

He did ... against Donald Trump in the GOP primaries in 2016.

So the MAGAs did have a choice for a Republican not-in-name only who opposed the war in Iraq.*

* During his 2010 U.S. Senate run, Rand said he would have voted against authorizing funds for a war in Iraq had he been in the Senate at the time of the invasion.
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@NativePortlander1970 I am waiting for you to explain why it is that she denied what was written in that diary.

 
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