Climate con is proof close to 50% of the planet are too stoopid to think.. they chop down all the trees.. natures natural CO2 filter. Then blame us for bullshit rising CO2 levels.
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Not to worry, the hypocrite, John Kerry and his mini partner, Greta are right on top of and will deal with those coal factories. Especially the ones in China…then they woke up!!
[image deleted][image deleted]@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Need we say more? Yes these two have the temerity to lecture the rest of us on their sins against the climate.
@Lilnonames If there was a power outage and you were at home & couldn’t recharge it then you’d be stuck at home. Too many hassles with those vehicles not to mention the cost and the fires with those batteries etc. I wouldn’t want one if it was given to me for free and had to bring it into the garage to recharge it. Not worth the fire risk.
@Patriot96 Indeed it is, you've been shitting on the board since this morning and you're still getting humiliated with just your very own logic. I wonder if it's a fetish you have.
@Patriot96 You don't even understand the difference between weather and climate something grade schoolers know and you want to be taken seriously over scientists. 😂
When you get sick do you go to a doctor or some random who is terminally online and watched a YouTube video?
The problem is anthropogenic climate change. Here's a short q&a on the evidence for it.
[quote]but I've yet to hear a rational explanation of how miniscule increases in an atmospheric trace gas such as CO2, causes the earth to warm.[/quote] It's because CO2 & methane are transparent to visible light but more opaque to infrared. The solar energy comes pouring in via the visible spectrum, but the heat can't leave so easily via the infrared spectrum due to that opacity. Kids' version: https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/explainer-co2-and-other-greenhouse-gases idealized quantitative model: https://www.climate-policy-watcher.org/coriolis-force/a-simple-mathematical-model-of-the-greenhouse-effect.html
[quote] In order to actually prove human carbon emissions influence climate, all variables would have to remain constant[/quote] Nope. With multiple data points we can solve for multiple variables simultaneously. Detailed climate models account for all the variables you list and more. They are verified and calibrated based on 700,000 years of prior climate data. http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/climate.html
[quote] Global warming models are based on small amounts of data. The earth is 4.6 billion years old, and we are expected to believe they can draw conclusions based on a hockey stick graph with 50 years of data?[/quote] Nope, not 50 years, 800,000 years, covering about 7 ice ages. The climate data comes from bubbles in glacial ice, and is corroborated by data from lake & sea floor sediments. https://icecores.org/about-ice-cores CO2 & methane & temp data Here's [i]where[/i] the various data sets were collected: The most salient thing about the 800,000 years of climate data is the rate of change during those previous 7 ice ages compared to the current rate of change this century.
[quote] Where does the money for climate research come from?[/quote] Fair question - it comes mostly from the National Science Foundation. Equally fair: where does the money for climate denial come from? The US oil industry makes about $110 [i]billion[/i] per year; coal another $20 billion. Big Oil spends $3.6 billion per year on advertising; a sum equal to about 8X the whole NSF climate budget. You're not naive enough to believe [i]none[/i] of that money goes to propaganda, are you?
Like it or not the rest of the world is sick to death of supporting America's idiot wars around the globe just to satisfy their need or greed for access to oil.
Like it or not oil; coal and gas when burned produce everything from smog to cancers in kids
So yeah it's about emissions it's also about America determined to keep it's big business interests in a field it wants to dominate (yet never has) so that political power remains with the few who have used and abused it for the last hundred years at the expense of everyone else.
Nothing green about them considering lithium mining scars the landscape and those expensive batteries won’t last the life of the car. Get stuck on the highway in the winter and the heater will run them down.
@cherokeepattiFalse argument Oil extraction does the same damage except the lithium in those batteries is infinitely recyclable and reusable while oil is a one time go. Once all the lithium is extracted it is there to use.
It's kind of ironic. In the 1700s way more problems needed solutions. The biggest one was a king who didn't the real ones. He was the problem.
Since he was shoved out. Electricity. An industrial complex. Agricultural plenty. Huge banking and investment systems have grown. Planes Trains Automobiles.
What has government invented? What do they produce? How much profit do they generate? What percent of the wages government workers collect comes from other than the generosity of the public and instead, from the profits? Zero.
No direct mention in the constitution of ~problem solving~ being the purpose of government. Government has a purpose.
The problem is real but electric cars are not the solution. Living simpler lives, growing food, using public transportation and so on would be. In the end it should be an individual choice and not imposed by corporations.
@Samu01 of the dozens upon dozens of problems. If it is you'd best hope it isn't.
People addicted to drugs. Criminals coalescing into gangs doing violence in cities. Shortage of long distance thoroughfares creating traffic problems. Skyrocketing health care expenses. Rotten public education. Rape, molestation and suicide. Raw materials piling up in mountains because of planned obsolescence and disposable product culture. Growing marginal and poverty sectors in the economy a giant shrinkage of the middle class and wealth concentration that destabilizes a population.
Any "problem" they claim they can fix they never have and only made worse. And this one they say they can fix.
Nah. Governments don't fix problems. They create them.
The majority of environmental impact on a car is making it and disposing of it.
An electric car makes about twice as much impact as regular cars, at about twice the cost for about 25% of useful life.
A far better strategy would be to stop deliberately building cars with shitty number of years lifetime and make it last a hundred or more. Which they could. But wont.
Better name for wind powered generators is excessively expensive propeller towers for live bird chopping.
Solar panels. Snow tables.
Those systems are only intermittent power generators at best, can't run in stout winds, and have huge maintenance costs for devices that need to be completely rebuilt every 20 years. Solar panels don't work many hours most of winter because of the short days , overcast days, and the icing and snow, or harsh desert environments that assaults them contributes to rapid deterioration. After about year 20 they're too damaged to keep and need to be replaced. Nice way to add a few extra tons of weight to a wooden framed house and make that roof replacement a financial nightmare as well.
Government tax subsidized climatology disciples seem oblivious to these things. They have no tolerance for the fact that Electric cars use more electricity than 5 houses, and alternative generation sources only have uses in ideal climates.
They are costly, harm the environment as much or possibly even more, and might have niche use in some areas but are not an overall reliant system for humanity to move toward. It's as if the leadership of the world are a bunch of weed smoking idiots being scammed by a bunch of coke snorting engineers.
I dunno. I think the main thing for me is the gas is low because it's electric, not because I care about climate. I've always had a gas guzzler and would be nice if I found a car that I didn't have to sink as much money into. Cars will make you poor.
@Northerner 14 million hectares burnt to the ground this summer but idiots in Washington believe climate change doesn't exist because they can make a snowball in January.
@NativePortlander1970 Copy paste? Have you ever plugged anything that works on electricity in your lifetime? What's the thing about plugs that you failed to understand? 😆
idealized quantitative model: https://www.climate-policy-watcher.org/coriolis-force/a-simple-mathematical-model-of-the-greenhouse-effect.html
http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/climate.html
