What are your thoughts on this.

@Elessar it may exist but may not be caused by humans

@Northerner No, the scientific consensus is that it is caused by human activity. And anyway. whether it's caused by humans or not is absolutely irrelevant, it still needs to be fixed.

Or is your logic «my house is on fire, but maybe it was a lightning and not an arsonist that started it, so since it's probably natural it's all good and I'll let everything burn down»?

@Elessar scientists will agree with anyone that is paying their wages.

@Northerner Tell me you don't know how science works without telling me how science works.

So what's more likely according to you, that the 100% of the scientists of the planet are involved in a big secret conspiracy, or that perhaps - and brace yourself - pulling carbon out of the ground, burning it, and releasing it into the atmosphere does exactly what every physics-for-dummies book that you'll typically read in grade V says will happen?

@Elessar Wake up!!! stop reading what other people tell you for their benefit.

@Northerner And in any case you're still fixating on an irrelevant point. I don't care whether it's artificial or not. You yourself just admitted that the problem exists, contradicting what you said in the opening post.

@Northerner Follow your own advice, it's not me the one pulliing pre-made cringy memes out of the a$s of oil execs and posting them on SW lmao

@Elessar its called WEATHER

@Patriot96 45°C in north Italy is not normal "weather", dude

@Elessar and you have records dating before 1800

@Patriot96 Ice cores. And besides, even the fact that there's no historical record of 45°C from the 1800s to today proves that it's not "just the weather", buddy. A man of your age should know better, than sounding like some edgy 12 years old who hasn't figures out yet how the world works, because their favourite celebrity running in politics told you what to believe.

@Elessar no dumb ass there are no accurate data prior yo 1800s.

@Patriot96 I don't care about the pre-1800s. It's you who brought it up lmao. What's the part of 'the fact it is unprecedented from the 1800s to today' that you've failed to process?

@Elessar you arent too bright. Hot weather has happened before and will happen again

@Patriot96 No buddy, it hasn't. You yourself said you don't have data, and the data we have says it is unprecedented.

By using your very own logic, you should shut up and leave at this point, you've just owned yourself 😜

@Elessar well turn off your computer and any other electric a.lpiane, turn off your heat, dont drive your car and do us all a favor, stop breathing

@Patriot96 Start following your own advice. For being someone who hates socialism, you seem to love getting publicly owned 🤔

@Elessar Hell, we are getting heat waves in the Canadian arctic.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow chicago is on samr latitude as rome. They had a relatively mild summer.
Just for perspective, South Dakota, further north than chicago, in 1930s experiences 130F temps.
Its called weather

@Patriot96 If you didn't drop out of school too early, they'd have taught you about the effects of the gulf stream in Europe.

I rest in my case

@Elessar im quite aware of weather systems probably more than you. I am a licensed pilot

@Patriot96 I'm a licensed fisherman. So? Are we enumerating irrelevant things?

Another thing that will probably blow up your mind, is that piloting an aircraft doesn't make you an expert on climate; just like picking up a fish with a rod doesn't make you a marine biologist. Other things that should've been learned in school

@Elessar ok, great britains climate in the 1200 was so warm they grew wine grapes. Greenland was once warm enough for colonization before covered by glaciers. One hot summer is not climate change

@Patriot96 You yourself came here arguing that data before the 1800s cannot be trusted. Now you speak to me about the 1200s? The data we have absolutely say that the current temperatures are unprecedented. By enforcing your own rule (i.e. discarding altogether anything <1800) even more so. You're also confusing single day outliers with growth patterns spanning over decades.

Make peace with your own brain and stick with what you preach.

@Elessar having an intelligent discussion with you is like trying to teach chess to a pidgeon. Goodbye