Israel is attacked

@BlueVeins I don't understand Israel's continued push for settlements. The government doesn't just randomly kill people though does it? Not unless they're being attacked?

The continued land grab does seem very wrong and malevolent

Like continually stoking a fire and they seemingly do it to please the very religious. The ultra religious often don't even contribute to Israeli society - they exist on welfare and refuse conscription into the army

There must be something I'm missing

@Activitykittens It's a nationalism & religion thing on Israel's end. Old Testament has a ton of passages about conquering the land now known as Israel and warring against anyone who tries to invade it. They view it as the land promised to them as god and keep it real, a lot of it stems from ethnic hatred. Closest analogue I can think of is American settlers removing indigenous tribes from their land because they believed in manifest destiny; that God wills white Americans to rule what's now known as the contiguous United States. Obviously, resource competition plays a big role as well; the Jordan River is a really important source of water to control and land is typically a convenient thing to have.

Israeli forces don't shoot random people as a matter of policy, but to my understanding, they're pretty indiscriminate in the force they do apply "defensively" to maintain control over the territory they've taken over. Don't quote me though, my brain is too cooked to research it right now. It sucks and I don't know what would have to happen to fix this problem.

@Activitykittens most Israelis look upon the ultra religious the same way we in USA look down on welfare recipients.

@graphite That is why it was a waste of time & political capital. You don't see Israelis praising Trump for what he did. And I am not talking about politicians...they did. But did the Israeli people? Not in any significant way.

@SamInAZ And now you sound exactly like the kid you are :) Kiddo

@SamInAZ Name calling is not productive. I thought you might be a conservative friend when I first saw your posts, but now I know there is something wrong with your thinking.

@sascha I guess I defended them when I called them appalling did I?

@Ozymandiaz

This is what you said:

[quote]yet it pales in comparison to the atrocities and human rights violations that Israel has committed.[/quote]

Israeli civilians dying is horrible and does not "pale in comparison" to anything. There is nothing that justifies murdering innocent people, whether they are from Israel or from Palestine. Murder is wrong.

@sascha

Explain to me how pointing out that one murderous organisation kills more people than the other is a defence of either organisation. Because that just sounds stupid. No offence.

We both know that Israel has murdered a lot more innocent civilians than Hamas has.

@BizSuitStacy Perhaps that is true. Biden is a weakling. The world is erupting.

@4meAndyou 💯 on 🎯

@BizSuitStacy 😢😢😢😢😢😢

@SW-User Now thought to be Iran behind this, so Russia!

@Activitykittens you are soooooo misinformed! So brainwashed omg are you still believing the Israeli narrative?!

There hasn’t been a SINGLE proof of a killed baby nor raped woman in Israel, the White House themselves retracted biden’s statement of killed babies and please listen to the testimonies of freed female hostages and how kind the hamas guys were to them!

But I can show a plethora of pictures of the 3,500 Palestinians children that Israel has brutally killed in their bombing!

Do you even know how Israel started back in 1947? Do you know about the massacre of Qibya in 1953 for example?

@IamBack you care selectively about a massacre in 1953 but not one in modern times. You're actually insane and a terrorist enabler

@Activitykittens wow, completely dismissed everything I said, can’t blame you, fully brainwashed

Are those people terrorist-enablers as well?

https://youtu.be/FCywEHFsPfU?si=3BqvaNUTVFMGuXsO

@msros Isn't the US election a full year from now?