oldundieslover · 70-79, M
We all need structure and rules
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Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Graylight rarely a teacher, can simply be inspired by the surroundings to make a positive change. Primitive people lived in communal tribes where each member was treated with respect and none were left out. Natural selection means that those who adapt to their environment the best will have a better chance of surviving. Paris commune worked pretty democratically and zapatista have lived in Democratic communities for years
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Graylight yes theirs plenty of examples of humans being vile and disgusting creatures but we are also equally capable of being good and rational people who'd never injure another person
A wonderful ideal that would be.
Sadly has done already said. It's unlikely to ever happen.
Essentially there exists four types of human nature.
The pack leader
The thinker
The conformist
And the needful
Each has their own strengths and weaknesses.
Of these four types 3 could not comfortably exist among society without a pack leader.
It's an uncomfortable truth, for many to accept . None the it is a Truth.
A great question ⁉️ and fascinating topic
I'll make a note to write a paper on the subject.
Thanks 👍
Sadly has done already said. It's unlikely to ever happen.
Essentially there exists four types of human nature.
The pack leader
The thinker
The conformist
And the needful
Each has their own strengths and weaknesses.
Of these four types 3 could not comfortably exist among society without a pack leader.
It's an uncomfortable truth, for many to accept . None the it is a Truth.
A great question ⁉️ and fascinating topic
I'll make a note to write a paper on the subject.
Thanks 👍
@Guitarman123 If the elected can be genuinely held accountable... Then that's a good thing & exactly what's to be expected.
thanks for sharing ✍️
thanks for sharing ✍️
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Kae20 if that was to happen then good as I support the idea of Democratic socialism
@Guitarman123 me too.
BohemianBabe · M
There will always be some form of government. If we totally eliminated government, the laws would be made and enforced by local war lords, that would be the new form of government.
The best possible society, the one that allows the most amount of freedom, is one where the government is democratically controlled.
The best possible society, the one that allows the most amount of freedom, is one where the government is democratically controlled.
BohemianBabe · M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Well I know you're not really a Nazi, you're really just a nihilist troll, we've gone over this.
@BohemianBabe Yeah a Christian nihilist 🙄
BohemianBabe · M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I know, I'm familiar with the Trad Christian memes. Deus Vult and such. They're usually Catholic, though, so you may have to convert.
DazzaTheHutt · M
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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DazzaTheHutt there's a difference between natural hierarchy and imposed hierarchy. If a hierarchy can't justify itself, it should be dismantled.
DazzaTheHutt · M
@basilfawlty89 Go on then, I’ll wait here.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Guitarman123 It often does in small town America, places where people try to elect people they know and trust and not the people with the biggest bankroll or who the unions tell them to vote for, or who the D or R bankrolls.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Heartlander exactly, in small towns. The places that aren't of financial benefits to the capitalist ruling class so they pay no attention to small towns, especially socialist ones
@Heartlander unfortunately it's always about 'POWER' it seeps into the brain & takes over.
A true Democracy It would need to be run by a Selfless Leader.
Someone who is Spiritually Ascending , and is Intellectually evolved .
Both states of ' being' will ensure the Said Leader pocesses clear vision and an absence of Ego.
It is ""ego which is downfall of all good persons & eventually those for whom they are responsible.
A true Democracy It would need to be run by a Selfless Leader.
Someone who is Spiritually Ascending , and is Intellectually evolved .
Both states of ' being' will ensure the Said Leader pocesses clear vision and an absence of Ego.
It is ""ego which is downfall of all good persons & eventually those for whom they are responsible.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
That will never happen.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@ninalanyon by keeping workers and young people in these current conditions all that's gonna happen is increased depression and stress whilst the ruling class keeps making massive profits. Increasing education and learning the dark parts of history can help people avoid to make the same mistakes
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Guitarman123 I agree that education is a prerequisite but only a sympathetic government can make it happen.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@ninalanyon if its a truly Democratic government lead by the workers then it would stand a chance
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Ceinwyn · 26-30, F
@FaithfulTalia Yeah that’s not going to cut it I’m afraid. If you won’t answer my points I’ll assume you can’t and therefore my position remains the same.
Your dream for the world doesn’t address crime, antisocial behaviour, external threats, poor health/sickness/disabilities, tribalism or corruption.
Your dream for the world doesn’t address crime, antisocial behaviour, external threats, poor health/sickness/disabilities, tribalism or corruption.
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Yeah good luck with that.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic such as?
@Guitarman123 I can't remember, was just saying. But he also presented a goofy image- he should have smartened up for the war memorial days he attended.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic shouldn't have worn them silly glasses but he smartened up a lot
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Graylight · 51-55, F
@FaithfulTalia Yes, I am a fascist. Definitely believe everything a worm tells you. It's how all the best stories begin.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@SW-User
I'm down, when do we leave? 😎
I'm down, when do we leave? 😎
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
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Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@basilfawlty89 I believe that fully. More regular people realise how much power and influence they can truly have, more vocal they'll become
SW-User
We should never have had governments!
Give people power and it’s not long before evil gets in.
Give people power and it’s not long before evil gets in.
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me too