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... so are deportations on the table now?

For my daily dose of demagoguery, I decided to listen to Donald Trumps' speech that he gave on the 25th of june 2023. I have to say, I've listened to a lot of his speeches... but this was one of the darkest ones yet. Now, everyone knows the things that he hates and the stereotypes that he uses to make the crowd foam out of their mouths. But this time he went exceptionally hard on immigrants... and "Marxists". I guess he finally dares to say what always follows if you are living with a notion of objective "evil" as your neighbour. There is always a final sollution to this kind of issue.

[quote]You and I have been fighting side-by-side to rescue our country from evil and senator forces that hate -- and cynical forces that hate it. As we gather today our beloved nation is teetering on the edge of tyranny. I believe that. You believe that. Our enemy are waging war on science and religion, on history and tradition, on law and democracy, on god almighty himself. They are waging war. […] The radicals are setting fire to our constitution, abolishing free speech, attacking religious beliefs, erasing our borders, corrupting our elections, and we have corrupt elections. and trying to oppose their creed of "woke" communism on every American, woman and child and that is what they are doing. We have never had a situation like is going on right now in our country […] T[b]ogether we are warriors and a righteous crusade to stop the arsonists, the atheist globalist and the marxists and that is what they are. and we will restore a republic as one nation, under god God with liberty and justice for all.[/b][…]

[...][b]Today I'm announcing a new plan to protect the integrity of our immigration system. Federal law prohibits the entry of communists and totalitarians into the united states.[/b] [applause] [b][u]My question is what do we do with the ones that are already here?[/u][/b] [laughter] [b][u]I think we have to pass a new law for them.[/u] Using federal law, section 212f of the immigration and nationality act, I will order my government to deny entry to all communists, and all marxists.[/b] [applause] Those who come to join our country must love our country. We wouldn't want them when they want to destroy our country. Welcome to America, we want to destroy your country, thank you very much. [b]We will keep foreign, christian-hating communist and marxists out of america.[/b]

[b]We must be strong like never before. We must be unstoppable. Together we will take on the communists and the marxists, and the fascists and the globalists and the fake news media.[/b][/quote]

And when he’s summing up all the big plans he has for his new term:

[quote][…] Because the time is coming up, we will have to extend that to expand the adoption tax credit. We will do that because a lot of people have been adopting and that's a great thing. [b]Another to your already will be to expel the communists, and these terrible people that have taken over our education system.[/b] [/quote]

[b]SOURCE:[/b] https://www.c-span.org/video/?528898-1/donald-trump-speaks-faith-freedom-coalition-conference

... Anyway, if you are intrested in this kind of stuff. You should really take the time to listen to this speech.

If anyone still believes that this man upholds the constitution? Like, you don't have to go to another amendment then the 1st, then to figure out that he and his followers give one f*ck abouth that piece of paper.

And when you are this far to the extreme on the political spectrum, then the word "marxist" becomes just as meaningless as the word "fascist". It's just becomes a collective term, for everything these people don't like.
BritishFailedAesthetic · M Best Comment
[quote] My question is what do we do with the ones that are already here? [laughter] I think we have to pass a new law for them. [/quote]

Once citizenship has been granted no government should ever have the right to take it away.
@RodionRomanovitch Not at all. Not my problem you can't understand what is going on.

I assumed she had flipped or was an informant. That should be obvious. Intelligence agencies don't generally recruit for the enemy.

And I said fuck all about British intelligence. She was involved in a CANADIAN intelligence operation. Clearly I need to spell it out for you.

And it is cute how you assume anyone who provides info helps intelligence agencies gets treated well. So adorably naive.


And I am not going to waste my time with something because you are too lazy to use google.

And the only person pushing narratives are you.

You assume everything done by the west is moral and good and work backwards. Hell you should be paid by both the US and UK government for all the free PR you do.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow 'And I am not going to waste my time with something because you are too lazy to use google.'

The last refuge of the idiot. lol
@RodionRomanovitch No, just someone who is not being paid to educate you on basic things like the fact propaganda was used during the cold war or that intelligence agencies don't recruit for the enemy.

I agree with you on most points. But this actually is fascism and that is not hyperbole.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@Gloomy you can try and contextualise it like that but its a public thread and we can read. You want the authority to be able to force people to live by your vision (you confirmed, or at least havent denied it and that would be very simple and we can all go about our lives) but you have zero right to demand this of others.

And to top it off, when asked how you would achieve this most people who espouse this authoritarian narrative cant even elaborate how it would be achieved.......because when its written down in black and white it doesnt look so morally righteous or "educated".

But lets try again. How will you force others to live how you see fit?
Gloomy · F
@gol979 I don’t but I would vote and support policies that may coerce people to do certain things for public safety

Anyone voting in democratic societies want their political changes which do force others to adapt to systemic changes.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@Gloomy you do want to and will vote for institutions that will force your doctrine on others. Awwww thats so much better, armchair tyrant.

If you didnt want to then you wouldnt vote based on something you dont want to happen. Contradictions and utter hypocrisy
JSul3 · 70-79
He then asks his cult members to send him money.
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@sunsporter1649 Oh, look, another red herring from sporty!!

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Ah, another one that got suckered into believing the lame-street gnews. Amusing
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
The next time the left-wing nut-job marxists follow The Constitution will be the first time
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Yup, everybody gets in, ain't amerika wonderful!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@JSul3 That's his normal MO ... He just repeats the same crap over and over. He doesn't care if it's true or not... He just thinks that when he believes it, it becomes true... as true magic. That's how dumb this guy is.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Yup, everybody gets in, ain't amerika wonderful!
One assumes he will eventually suggest his enemies be placed in a sort of concentrated encampment...
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 I know. It's the woman. She needs the house to herself with her man. This is why I am not married. If the woman in my life can't get along with my mom and love her as I do, then she doesn't belong in my family. Such women are home-breakers.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sree251 Not even sure if it's the woman... individuals at a certain age just like their freedom. Even the kids like their freedom. And generations often collide on what that freedom should look like, because they grew up in diffrent times. It's really from all generations.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 Look, I don't live in a one room house where everybody sleep together. Perhaps, you are from Hong Kong where living space is limited. In that case, you need to move out. I get that.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
What's scary is that all the groups he mentioned is generalizing like if you read a book he doesn't like are you a commie and then you should get deported or what? Lol
@sree251 It is only shit to those who base their views on feelings, emotion and knee jerk reactions.

No facts or evidence required.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Knee jerk reactions are not canned. Can you say anything original?
@sree251 Facts are facts. This is not about entertaining you.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Translation "Let me get you all riled up so that you will open up your checkbook. I need money and power!!!!"
Trump is a great man. He will also save us from all the girly men
JSul3 · 70-79
@Assface You forgot to add the 'sarcasm' note. /s
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Assface What make you think that? Trump's rallies had this wonderful theme song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k
walabby · 61-69, M
He's right about one thing. We've never had a political situation like this.... only that HE is the reason for the situation!
walabby · 61-69, M
@Kwek00 Yeah, I think that you're right.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@walabby If this interests you... there has been a lot published about the roots of these ideas in the last couple of years. And there is also an incredible lecture series on youtube by "Heather Cox Richardson", a proffessor of history at Boston College who wrote a book called: "How the South won the Civil War.". That's probably one of the best things for me that came out of the last 7 years... is that the field that studies right-wing authoritarinism was revitalised, and there has been a lot of stuff published regarding the US.
walabby · 61-69, M
@Kwek00 Thanks ..
Doomflower · 36-40, M
It's not new for ordinary complacent people to just let the country become lawless around human rights.
Human rights get in their way.
JSul3 · 70-79
@Roundandroundwego True. There were many violent acts against those seeking voting rights and equality.....and there are still violent acts against those seeking equality and acceptance today.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
Expel them by cutting their funding. I see no calls of action against free citizens so where's the violation of the first?

 
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