I'm a centrist so both sides of the political spectrum hate me, go figure.

@Justmeraeagain Same. And there are things I disagree with the Left on. I don't believe that systemic racism is real.
But nine times out of ten, when someone says they're a Centrist, they're really just a Fascist. It's become a dog whistle at this point.

@BohemianBabe Trump didn't tell them to storm the capital. What fascism is is the summer of love

@theAlchemist yes they do. They also have a long history of funding and supporting radical/extremist groups in foreign countries to maintain their control. Its a sick pantomime

@gol979 Okay, and so who should govern?

@Elessar "Okay, and so who should govern?"

We the people.

@TinyViolins More excuses. I've already covered everything you're throwing at me, I'm not going to repeat myself over and over. Go on with accusing me of being "impaired by fear" as much as you like if that makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. I'm not lowering myself to debating that.

When you'll have a demonstrable explanation of how "striking" elections and allowing MAGA to get the low turnout they're desperate to get is going to land you with an electoral reform that doesn't permanently lock MAGA in the government, let me know. Until then you're objectively risking to do them a favor by doing something that has ZERO chances of benefiting you personally in any realistic way.

Taking a risk that will necessarily leads to ZERO gains is utterly dumb, no matter how much you try to fancy it.

@Elessar How could they be desperate for low turnout if they believe that ballots are being faked, that democrats are voting multiple times, and that the machines themselves are switching votes? You're almost as much of a conspiracy theorist as they are. If anything, they should want more turnout to outweigh the vote rigging they perceive to be happening.

Your reasoning isn't even being driven by facts. It's just politically motivated. There's no point in arguing with someone that is so dogmatically biased and fueled by hatred. What's worse is that you don't even live in the country or interact with any of the people in it. Your entire philosophy is based on what you read on social media from the morons that flock to politics. You're operating from what you gather from virtual echo chambers. The real world isn't like that.

You've voted in, what, ZERO American elections in your life, and you seriously have the nerve to dictate American elections to me? You're so full of yourself that it's like talking to a wall. Jesus, it's like you're only interested in stroking your own ego. You're the kind of guy that would break an arm patting himself on the back. I'm fine ending the discussion here. You can now be free to be a caustic little shitstain somewhere else

@TinyViolins Because you're again focusing on what they tell instead of what they do. Why do you care so much about what they say? Not even they themselves believe that cr#p about voter fraud, why would you? They need a low turnout in order to win an election as 2020 clearly demonstrated. And what conspiracy, overturning Roe still seems like a conspiracy to you? The Jan 6 coup against the certification of their loss is a conspiracy too?

My reasoning is mainly driven by the (tangible) facts happened ever since they've gone ballistic after losing the recentmost election, so go figure. Once again false "centrist" sense of superiority strikes again and you're projecting onto me your reliance on their own propaganda for basing your reasoning.

If there's someone patting his own back while categorically refusing to explain how the heck striking from an election en-masse is going to benefit him while MAGA is hellbent into voting the most extremist red candidate they can choose from, that one ain't me.

@Torsten OH MY GOD!! What an extraordinary and very original comeback! I wonder why you aren't studying to become a comedian instead of wasting your time with us peasants here on SW 🥴

@Elessar speaking of original comebacks, how many times have you wrote that " you cant get kinda pregnant" comment now? seen it multiple times

why would I need to study being a comedian when It just comes naturally to me?

@SW-User There is also the fact no meaningful left wing has existed in the US since FDR was president.

@SW-User * According to everyone (including most sane Americans) minus for MAGA fascists, it's not strictly an European thing

@SW-User What is best for people?

@cyberdude28 Are you a "centrist" again now? Wasn't it like yesterday that you've rediscovered yourself as a republican?

@cyberdude28 equality, higher wages, free healthcare, less wealth inequality, ....

@Ducky The problem with this form of "centrism" is that there's no platform, no candidate, no proposals; just an obsession with "neutrality", feeling "above the parts" and following the perceived center. The overton window has undeniably moved at right (to the point that, let alone Biden, even effin' Bush or Cheney are now "too liberal" for the average conservative voter lol), and radical centrists move at right too, possibly without even realizing.

The fact that no one - neither justifiably actual centrists/moderates, nor paradoxically even those who primarily benefit from the existence of the radical center - trust it, is quite telling.

@Elessar I have nothing to say to you.

@Ducky Fine, but then don't be surprised when your stance is "hated by all loved by none", especially if you (plural) systematically refuse to discuss. 🤷‍♂️

@gol979 yes,I'm sure it wasn't for our collective health...that's why the lockdowns actually worked and covid numbers have been reduced post vaccination.

@basilfawlty89 keep telling yourself that. Lockdowns were a crime against humanity. "You are only allowed out of your house for 1 hour exercise. Its for your safety". Its ok to admit youve been had btw. You dont need to double down in support of tyranny

@basilfawlty89 somehow these little cartoons feel 1Dimension and paleolithic but I can't quite describe it .

@cyberdude28

Preaching to the choir, my friend. The motto of my generation was literally “Question Authority". And we did it live and in person, not from in front of a computer screen.

Peace.

@LvChris get the point... but only if it was that simple there's a lot of variables and a lot of people who don't associate with the ku Klux Klan and who hate racism and don't agree with everything the other side says in other lesser matters.
It is impossible to compromise with someone when racism and hatred is thier world view.

@BohemianBabe

And they call themselves "centrist" 😆 and wonder why nobody takes them seriously lmao

@Ryannnnnn I'm center but I keep fluctuating between center right and center left depending on the day and argument someone makes.

@cyberdude28 I got called a socialist, communist, right wing radical, looney liberal and everything in between

@Justmeraeagain exactly

@Justmeraeagain somehow we are both far right and far left at the same time 🤷‍♂️

@Justmeraeagain Exactly

@Rolexeo No

@cyberdude28 yes.

@LiLShrimp theres a whole load we can do. Number 1.....do not engage with this clear despotic system. Non compliance with authority overreach. Dont vote, voting is giving tacit compliance that you are willing to be ruled by this warped version of reality

@gol979 Not voting means that you'll let whatever is the most extremist side to win, as they'll be hellbent to vote even if you don't. And in return you get nothing at all. Not even if the 80% of the voters didn't vote - the only possible outcome is that the remaining 20% will decide for everyone, and you won't be happy with the choice.

I don't know how much dumber you could get.

@SW-User Ikr. I legit had this conversation on here with someone. "30/40s aesthetic". These people have seen laser eyes in WW2 🥲

@Elessar On a serious note the amount of misinformation and bad jokes about the second world war and Nazi Germany on here are so sad

@SW-User On here? I've heard IRL people complaining and calling themselves "the new Jews" after being intimated to be left out of public transportation if they didn't wear a mask..