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Occam's razor 2020 election

On one hand, Trump's popular vote % was slightly better than his approval rating for his entire presidency, and agrees with pre-election polls. I've been around for more than a few presidential elections, and this is the only time I remember members of one party endorsing a candidate from another. The 2016 Trump states that "flipped" for Biden in 2020 are all states that have been leaning more towards the center for the past two decades. There have been very few proven incidents of voting crimes in the USA. For such a crime to happen without smoking gun evidence requires many, many people to be in on it, and to keep their mouths shut. This isn't the X files, its real life. The basic fact is: Trump was very popular with 40% of the country, and very unpopular with the remaining 60% . Basic logic tells you that Trump does not win.

On the other hand, the pre-election polls and approval ratings polls could have all been biased and rigged. Stats that show voting trends could all be biased or intentionally misleading. endorsements are irrelevant. Many folks on various levels could have conspired together nationally to change the vote in a few states. The volunteer poll workers could all have received special training on how to cheat so that election observers did not catch them. The post election audits and recounts could have all been paid off by democrat donors with deep pockets.

One scenario is simple, and doesn't require anything extraordinary. The other one does. Sorry, Liz Cheney is 100% correct here.
ElwoodBluesM
Some cons believe the Dems masterminded a plot to fake millions of ballots for thousands of jurisdictions, sneak them into hundreds of counting centers, evading tens of thousands of watchful eyes, and not slip up once. Also that the Dems forgot to cheat downballot and control the Senate overwhelmingly. Plus, these cons believe the Dems are not competent to run a lemonade stand. No, I can't explain their cognitive dissonance.
Vin53M
Of all the thousands and thousands of people needed to pull off a US national election fraud not a single leak has sprung to admit how it was pulled off? And why they left the under tickets alone?

Its mind numbingly ridiculous to still believe the big lie.
trollslayer46-50, M
@Vin53 Exactly. There are even more outlandish conspiracies that make more sense than this one.
TexChikF
Trumps vote # set a record for any incumbent in US history. And that didn鈥檛 include all the votes dominion deleted or switched to Biden . Libs are all peddling the same BS . So many of you spewing it today. Did Chaney鈥檚 rino *ss getting kicked to the curb scare you libs? Sad . 馃槀馃槀馃槀
summersmiles51-55, F
@TexChik Liz Cheney has balls. She remembers what the Republican Party was and sees what it is now . She could have joined the cult to keep her seat but she chose to be able to look in the mirror. That's strength of character and it's the rarest thing in Washington these days. Her loss didn't scare me, it inspired me.
TexChikF
@summersmiles Liz Chaney has her fathers rino balls , and no congressional seat . Lots of Rinos no longer have seats
summersmiles51-55, F
@TexChik By rinos you mean the old Republicans instead of the new Trumpublicans. Yes you're so right. Trump and you and everyone like you have created a cult. And like all political cults you rise up and shake your fists and tell and scream how powerful you are and we all should shake in fear.
And then you quickly leave the country a smoking cinder and shell of what it used to be. Call it Nazi Germany or Trump America or pick the self destructive regime of your choice. It's always the same through history.
NorthwestM
@summersmiles

[quote]Her loss didn't scare me, it inspired me.[/quote]

I am going to guess you don't live in the Wild West part of the country. Those of us who get there, every once in a while, ARE scared.

These people are scary. They are racist, and wedded to the idea that this we are a white, Christian country and it is their sacred duty, to defend what's left of that, to the death.

Education will change that, but that's slow coming to that part of the country. What I noticed, was that one of the red parts of our state, recently turned blue. The catalyst? Educated people and tech industry growing roots. I saw that happen statewide, as the tech industry attracted more educated people, and we flipped from red to blue, to deep blue.

Will we have a civil war? Not likely, but we may have localized, mini versions of a civil war. Trump is not to subtle, with his dog whistles, and dogs be dogs.
justanothername51-55, M
Unfortunately that 40% of Republicans only listen to what comes out of the fat one鈥檚 mouth. He could tell them that he has a 12 inch cock and is the best looking guy on the planet and they would believe him as though it was a religious revelation.
MasterLee56-60, M
@justanothername if you quit sucking trumps cock, maybe you can move on
justanothername51-55, M
@MasterLee I鈥檓 not the one sucking his cock.
MasterLee56-60, M
@justanothername then why do you keep mentioning him
Bracing yourself for an overturned election and a lifetime embarrassment I see.

Good 馃嵖
smiler201256-60
i suppose if you put everything too one side except the facts . trump was election in 2016 in the 2020 election you say there was swing from trump safe voting states to joe.do you think it may actually have something to do with the fact that after four years of an trump administration people realized they had been duped by trump [trollslayer]
MasterLee56-60, M
Liz is gone.
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GerOttman61-69, M
The problem is, Trump stole the 2020 election from himself. Snatched defeat right out of the jaws of victory!
ViciDraco36-40, M
As someone who has a history of voting third party, I voted for Biden specifically because of Trump. I did not vote for the Democrat, i voted against Trump.

And I would do it again.
Vin53M
You do know thats simply fake news your brain is sending to you right?

@ViciDraco
ViciDraco36-40, M
@Shaveit your smooth brain may have trouble with this one but i voted against destruction.

Trump was the one destroying the country. He sold out a lot of long term stability for short term gains. He undercut so many protections and safeguards and weakened our international strength more than any other president has.
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Unfortunately, feelings don't care about your facts. 馃槅
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@Shaveit So, what I'm hearing is you can't prove it, and you're mad.
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