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Three Wisconsin boys are facing sexual harassment charges from their middle school

They used incorrect gender pronouns on a fellow student.
Baremine · 70-79, C
When I was in school you learned to blow things off. If a bully didn't stop you knocked the crap out of him or her and the problem was solved. And back then there were boys and girls. Try as hard as you want there are still boys and girls, men and women. Him and her. Male and female. The DNA doesn't change. How you were born is what you are.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BohemianBabe alright man, Our opinions dont differ so much with this. I will respectfully bow out of this now after throwing myself in. Good having a actual civil short discussion with you for a change
Baremine · 70-79, C
@SW-User absolute Satanic Bullshit.
@Torsten I'm pretty cute, right?
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
I don't agree with the "sexual" harassment charges (since been dropped by the way.) But we also don't know what happened so we can't make an opinion. We don't know their previous relationship and we don't know what was said leading up to the events.

I will say this, the kid said in a recent Daily Mail article that he can say whatever he wants because it's his 1st amendment right. The person who they misgendered could have gone full psycho on them sure... but most normal people don't say "it's my free speech" if there was nothing wrong said. It implies guilt, it doesn't mean they did anything but it is implied.

If I was in that situation and I was truly innocent I would say something like "they didn't tell me what they preferred and they just went psycho on me for no reason, I don't understand what I did wrong." What I wouldn't do is say "it's my right to call you whatever I want and I can do whatever I want to you."
Turtlepower · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger I'm sure they probably don't like the person or are bigoted, but I get it. Thanks for the well thought out response :)
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@Turtlepower Oh... I guess it sounds off because the kid isn't denying that "something" was said with pleading about free speech. Out of all the things that could be said and one says "my free speech though." Only people who plan on saying something they know bothers the other person says that.
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
graphite · 61-69, M
What a bunch of stupid bulls***. So much for Freedom of Speech.
@graphite
And you're lauding false testimony
What false testimony?

I asked you if you're saying all those sworn witnesses are lying under oath, and you tried to change the subject. So now I'm asking again: are you saying all those sworn witnesses are lying under oath? If so, do you have evidence?? Or are you just proposing another GiAnTt CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRy???



UPDATE


25 hrs later and you're STILL ducking the question, LOL!!!
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Can't wait for the cross-examination of the "witnesses", how about you?
The beatings will continue until you bend the knee… err.. moral improves
SW-User
@Spoiledbrat changing one's sex isn't possible so yes, it has nothing to do with character
Why is everyone or (some people) so worried about it? @SW-User
@Spoiledbrat I know right?

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ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Scribbles Are you from Ukraine?
Didn’t this happen some time ago? Whether it did or not, abusing these three kids via LGBT indoctrination and whatever bullshit they’re pushing needs to be stopped and if the schools don’t , then the parents need to sue and remove the students and then kick the asses of these woke PC motherfucker’s who are so engrossed in ass kissing to the liberal , left wing agendas, who need their asses kicked !
Turtlepower · 36-40, M
@BohemianBabe Ah, that's fair. I assumed it was on purpose the whole time, but I see your point.
@BohemianBabe
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good enough for you
@soar2newhighs Yeah, check the thread, we kinda solved this.
carpediem · 61-69, M
Criminal charges over pronouns. How stupid can society get? And worst, some here will defend the stupidity.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@carpediem The law can be super petty. Not just about pronouns but pretty much anything.

I knew that when I was sued for a $600 credit card debt. Also when a friend of mine got in legal trouble over key'ing someone's car.

People make law suits over the pettiest crap
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Scribbles · 36-40, F
It's not like it was an "accident". Kids bully other kids.
Some kind of consequences are in order for three boys purposefully harassing and distressing another person. Perhaps whatever the policy is for bullying?

However perhaps the school is crap at dealing with bullying which is why it escalated to sexual harassment charges so as to kick up a fuss. That's the only way parents get attention from school administration to deal with a problem
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
How is it that everyone here has an opinion about a story that you didn't even bother to post a link for?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@ShadowSister
This is one more example of what always happens when conservatives retell news stories.

Here's a link Snowflake. It appears the story was told accurately.

https://thenewamerican.com/three-wisconsin-middle-school-boys-under-title-iv-sexual-harassment-investigation-for-refusing-to-use-correct-pronouns/
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Budwick The op-ed piece you linked to fails to note that (a) there were bomb threats against the school district in retaliation, and (b) the boys were cleared of all charges (as they should have been).
https://www.nbc15.com/2022/06/03/kiel-school-board-says-sexual-harassment-investigation-is-closed/

Talk about burying the lead. Should "the libs" now turn this into a story about school violence? (The answer, in case it's not obvious what I am implying, is no.)

If following the adage to "do to others as you would have them do to you" makes people like me into snowflakes, then I say Let It Snow, Baby.
Carla · 61-69, F
@ShadowSister it is nothing more than sensational headlines. No more credible than the national enquirer.
And the purpose is to only foment rage.
And as you see...bomb threats.
Miram · 31-35, F
The investigation was closed long ago and there was nothing wrong in investigating them under TitleIX

It is the protocol. If you all don't like it, you can move out the US.

Also try to not act like old news is new news.
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@Miram If they were more honest, they wouldn't be able to use children for political agendas.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
One word... homeschool
So, you're for kids sexually harassing other kids.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Roundandroundwego It’s easier to catch a unicorn that getting the truth out of a leftist.
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@Roundandroundwego You think that's sexual harassment?
Turtlepower · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 I'm a "leftist" from your perspective but this is simply dumb and that's the truth lol.
Montanaman · M
Snowflakes ❄️
Turtlepower · 36-40, M
Ugh this world makes my head hurt. We need more political parties because my God I'm sick of the extremes...
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
If they get convicted, there's gonna be a problem.
@SinlessOnslaught You gonna complain online about it?
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
justanothername · 51-55, M
Maybe students in question could learn not to go out of their way not to be fuck wit losers and the school could be better off.
Baremine · 70-79, C
@justanothername in school they don't know if they are gay
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Baremine BS. That’s where the hate starts.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Baremine That’s usually where many kids discover who they are.
MrAboo · 36-40, M
Oh this seriously happened? I’m trying not to laugh at the charges.
CestManan · 46-50, F
Assuming there is any reality in the story, I would assume this bullying was not an isolated incident.

People freak out when someone gets in legal trouble over something that seems petty but what is often left out is the offender's laundry list of other offenses.
SW-User
As their lawyers said:

"The complaint against these boys, and the District’s ongoing investigation, are wholly inappropriate and should be immediately dismissed. The mere use of biologically correct pronouns not only does not constitute sexual harassment under Title IX or the District’s own policy, it is also speech protected by the First Amendment."
ididntknow · 51-55, M
All to keep the minions fighting each other, whilst the politicians get on with their agenda, Don’t look at this, you carry on fighting over transgender issues, sex change operations, and which gender you feel like you want to be today, No such issues in the animal kingdom !
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
My pronouns are rich and handsome..
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Hopefully this will set the precedent and shut down this horse shit for good
Maybe they did it to cause someone distress.
@Spoiledbrat ya think?
I didn't read the story. @Roundandroundwego
You are so easily sucked in.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
By "charges"... legal ones, possibly leading to a trial in a Court of Law? Ye Gods!

On the face of that alone I don't know if the alleged wrong words were intended to be hurtful or were simple misunderstandings, but if a school can't sort such things out itself, in a civilised way of course, well...
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
Sounds about right
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Carla · 61-69, F
No. It was merely an investigation that was closed the first week of this month.
likesnatural · 70-79, M
Without a physical change, they may be right.
SW-User
That isn't sexual harassment
Imsleepy · 31-35
Good. Those three idiots deserve it.
SW-User
Lol no

https://will-law.org/kiel-drops-title-ix-complaint-against-middle-schoolers-after-will-defense/

 
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