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The Attire Of Female Athletes

I am glad to see female athletes rebelling against sexist standards in athletic attire.

There is nothing particularly political in my use of the word "sexist". Men being allowed to play volleyball in shorts, while women being required to wear bikini bottoms. Then when they wear shorts like the men-- being fined.

Athletes are professionals. They can decide what attire is best for them. Athletic guilds should focus on broad standards that don't afford undue distraction or performance advantages.
BlueVeins · 22-25
now all we need is male players being allowed to wear speedos. 😌 Forcing athletes to wear certain types of clothing is dumb & counterproductive, they're there to do sports lol
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@RabbitWithWine The reason I mentioned it is because a pair of German beach volleyball players refused to play in Qatar for the opposite reason: Qatar would not allow them to wear bikini bottoms.
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BlueVeins · 22-25
@RabbitWithWine I think I was being too extreme when I said that people should be allowed to wear like hoop skirts if they want. I guess what I really mean is that it would be more free and fair if we had variants of team attire that are similar in terms of the amount of material. Like moving forwards from this recent ruling, I think that if maybe a religious athlete isn't OK with wearing shorts, they could let her wear tights under them in the team colors or maybe have a pair of pants that's just like the normal uniform, except much longer.

IDK I know this isn't a great comparison, but back on my high school crosscountry team, we were allowed to wear spandex under our uniforms as long as it was team colors, and I don't think it made us look unprofessional (even though we weren't being held to strict standards of professionalism). I really think that letting individual athletes choose the length of their trousers, type of top (i.e. bikini top, T-shirt, cut off, tank top) would be a really reasonable and workable compromise.
Northwest · M
Athletic guilds are not doing this randomly. They want to generate more money, and sex sells. Until society's attitude about this changes, the rules are not really going to change.

Look at SW. Any thread that includes female nudity, generates hundreds and thousands of comments. Any thread that discusses greek philosophy, for instance, generates one reply, at best.
Northwest · M
@ninalanyon

[quote]We can have in depth conversations here. It seems to me that we are doing just that on this topic.[/quote]

Yes, we can, but this was not really my point:

[quote]Look at SW. Any thread that includes female nudity, generates hundreds and thousands of comments. Any thread that discusses greek philosophy, for instance, generates one reply, at best.[/quote]
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@Northwest Very well understood and agreed upon.
This bothers me too.
[quote]What really bothers me though, is when they look like they're teenagers, and some of the comments the adults here make.[/quote]
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Northwest I can't do anything about the fans of female nudity. But, they are not preventing others from discussing anything. I just wish that they would not bother adding comments like this:
[quote] @Pitchblue
I'm just gonna say I watched Woman's Triathlon and I was really disappointed when none of the Women had Bewbs.[/quote]
That's the sort of comment that should be elsewhere, if anywhere at all.

Nina xx
lisasweety · 22-25, F
well this is good news lol👍👍💕 every woman on earth should hav the freedom 2 dress howevr they want without men saying what they should and what they shouldn't wear...😊😊😊 men should stop trying 2 control women's body and focus more on themselves lol✌✌✌
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
I mean, it is pretty ridiculous tbh.

Longpatrol · 31-35, M
Kudos to the Netherlands and Germany for not putting up with Antiquated bs.
I agree. And it [b]is[/b] a sexist double standard. Women expected to provide visual titillation for viewers, men allowed to wear functional clothing for their sport.
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helenS · 36-40, F
In antiquity, athletes were simply naked, and no questions were asked.
WandererTony · 56-60, M
@helenS Were women allowed to run naked? I doubt it.
helenS · 36-40, F
@WandererTony Were they allowed to run at all?
WandererTony · 56-60, M
@helenS I havent seen any pictures of greek women running naked.

I just now read that they were not even allowed in the audience.

To ensure that women didnt watch the naked men running, even the audience were required to be naked!!
Graylight · 51-55, F
Odd, isn't it? We condemn the Middle East for its restrictive women's dress code, but we're guilty of the very same thing in reverse.
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
Oddly enough Cameroon men's football where twice punished for their equipment being "too revealing".

In 2002 when during the African Cup they had sleeveless tops (like basketball shirts) and in 2004 when they wore a onesie.

https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/387851/cameroon-puma-kit-2006-world-cup/

Basically when mens equipment (no pun intended) is too revealing they get fined the same way when womens equipment isn't revealing enough.

Bonus:
A few years ago the president of FIFA said this;
[quote]Sepp Blatter, the president of the world governing body Fifa, said women should have skimpier kit to increase the popularity of the game. "Let the women play in more feminine clothes like they do in volleyball," he said.

"They could, for example, have tighter shorts. Female players are pretty, if you excuse me for saying so, and they already have some different rules to men - such as playing with a lighter ball. That decision was taken to create a more female aesthetic, so why not do it in fashion?"[/quote]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/jan/16/football.gender
Magenta · F
I concur on all points. It feels like exploitation to me.
Yet I see a few who are agreeing but will post or support the constant posting of nude women, specifically breasts and ass. How ironic.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Magenta mostly of women who consented to being posted, that's the difference
Magenta · F
@BlueVeins Yes I get that those images are out there for the taking, but one doesn't have to perpetuate the mentality.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Magenta Why? If a woman puts her boobs out on the Internet hoping for guys to fap to them, sharing those booby shots is respectful to her wishes.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
I agree. The Danish Women's beach volleyball team was fined for not wearing bikini bottoms
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 i know. But the spectators were the same sex as the athletes.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley I heard somewhere long ago that the nude requirement was because a woman was competing with the men and won a competition before they found out she was a she. After that..... Do you suppose she was trans??????
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Lilymoon · F
Germany has stepped out. Nice to see. 👍
I’m with you on that!
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@rabbitwithwine] i think woman wear bikini bottoms are more revealing than shorts . cannot see personally what the big deal is in woman wearing shorts
I don't see the problem either. Let them wear what ever they want or will help them in their sport.
I'm just gonna say I watched Woman's Triathlon and I was really disappointed when none of the Women had Bewbs.
WandererTony · 56-60, M
Yes, there should be an universal dress code. Also, athletes should be allowed to choose what they desire to wear. Gender bias as well as fines for non compliance should be stopped.
WandererTony · 56-60, M
Having said that, there seems to be some games where the female players dont seem concerned about over exposure. I just received some pictures. 🙄
@WandererTony [quote]
WandererTony · 51-55, M
Yes, there should be an universal dress code.[/quote] ????
WandererTony · 56-60, M
@Pitchblue https://similarworlds.com/embarrassing/3993914-Who-decides-female-sportsperson-dresses
KT2002 · 26-30, F
Personally,I like it when a female athlete competes barefoot!
KT2002 · 26-30, F
Alot of sports,its not an option.
@KT2002 True, in many sports for both genders, being barefoot is to risk injury.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@bijouxbroussard The men are barefoot when playing beach handball.
AllAboutLaffs · 70-79, M
If a competitor's uniform gives them some sort of unfair advantage, then I understand the need for standards.

But requiring bikini bottoms, as an example, is simply absurd.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
[quote]Men being [i]allowed [/i]to play volleyball in shorts[/quote]

Is this correct? Or is it:
[quote]Men being [i]required [/i]to play volleyball in shorts[/quote]
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SW-User
Exactly your last sentence. It is totally their choice. No man should be dictating what any woman wears.
melbeacher · 56-60, M
I agree 100%
Zonuss · 41-45, M
These ladies seem quite comfortable with what they wear.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Zonuss if all female players were comfortable with wearing bikinis & all male players were comfortable with wearing full shorts & shirt, they wouldn't have to be coerced into doing it with the threat of fines & firing.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@HoraceGreenley Its irrelevant.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Zonuss the fact that IOC fined the Danish team for not wearing bikini bottoms is irrelevant? The conclusion being that the IOC cares only about ratings and not competition. They are not above coercion to get what they want.
I'd very much like to know [i]why[/i] that's a requirement. Usually these rules are in place so athletes don't feel pressured to do things that are dangerous or otherwise objectionable by the athletes. But making clothing too [i]long?[/i] How is that objectionable [i]or[/i] an unfair advantage?
Bang5luts · M
I agree. I think they should all protest and refuse to wear any uniforms or even clothes for that matter. Good for you ladies!

 
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