Why are those that are vaccinated getting angry at those that aren't or wont?

@Keepitsimple and I totally respect your opinion. If one feels more safe with the vaccine, each to their own, but I see risk on the other end of the table and, having bad experiences with past vaccines, I would rather die from COVID than have a life long side effect, if I catch COVID I’ll just go out in the Bush and let nature decide my fate.

I hope you don’t get it. My husband had it and was fine but we know know 2 people who died from it. @SW-User

I never had it, but been tested for it, and just before I went home I lived out in the bush, with no food and only had a couple of bottles of water, I stayed there for two days and when I got the text saying I was negative, I was good to go home lol. But if I was tested positive I would of stayed until I died or recovered and no longer contagious.@Keepitsimple

@itsoeasy [quote]i had a flu jab this year for first time, asi had flu last year and lost a weeks wages[/quote]

You're a mere mortal, just like myself. Unlike the OP, who's a magnificent flu-resistance humans specimen.

@Northwest But when viruses mutate they are less deadly, the viruses become weaker... even though they can be spread more easily.

@Jimmy2016 Tell that to the new more deadly variant that’s ripping through Brazil

People without insurance who get hospitalized with Covid are a tax burden on the rest if us. We do have some obligation to the rest of our society. @SheCallsMeCrushDaddy

And people who don’t take care of themselves are a burden on society. People who refuse to work are a burden to society, people who smoke and abuse drugs and get sick as a consequence are a burden on society. It never ends. @FlowersNButterflies

You want something that you will never have. Everybidy has blind spots. @SheCallsMeCrushDaddy

@fernie2 I have read that doctors over-treat many conditions, and that they would not all themselves agree to the treatments they give us. They fear medical malpractice lawsuits, and feel pressured by patients to do more, even when the right thing to do is to do less. Also, they are encouraged to bring home the bacon by their corporate employers.

Then there is the "iatrogenic effect" where the treatment is worse than the disease.

In my illness, many people in the support group do anything their doctors tell them to do, and it is often bad medical advice. They feel safer that way than to do any research themselves, to prolong their own well being. They just want a prescription to make it all go away, but it is genetic, has no treatment or cure and their doctors just make them worse. They have false hope as their condition is being worsened!

My sister (and other siblings) have the same genetic mutation. One sister was put on 13 different medications by malpractice, 5 of which were highly interactive, 5 more which were moderately interactive, 3 neutral. She suffered neuro toxicity, and when I found out through a pharmacist the damages, she got a new doctor who immediately started weaning her off all those unnecessary and interacting drugs. Too late, she had to go into a nursing home at 58 years old.

I am VERY wary.

@FlowersNButterflies A nursing home at 58!!!! Appalling! I spent years at my last job trying to free people just like your sister..from nursing homes they DID NOT need to be in! So sorry

@fernie2 Yes, thank you. Very sad! She can't talk or walk anymore, at 63. Doctors don't apologize, and even if they did, we have to live out their mistakes. Are you an advocate for the disabled?

Our condition causes (usually small) repetitive strokes, which is why I have had repeated neuro psych evaluations (and MRI's). This is how I know exactly what my IQ comes in at, which another chatter thinks is a "brag". Fact is, we are NOT all alike in the world, and that is a simple truth. Also, that higher IQ can see lower IQ, but not vice versa. Like Dunning Krueger Syndrome. It is not a put down. High IQ does not guarantee a happier life.

My condition causes sleep disorders (strokes usually do), and I talked to my geriatrician to see if I could get a sleep medication. She wanted to put me on Lexapro or Trazadone, anti-depressants. Both have a side effect of heart rhythm disorder. I have multiple heart issues and she has the records, including a 30-day Holter monitor proving I have heart rhythm disorder! I reminded her, and she got a bit snippy. Told me to take Xanax at night. Smdh...

I want them to take good care of me, and not end up in a nursing home at all. I choose VSED. Nothing wrong with wanting to survive as well as possible as long as possible.

I am third generation with this genetic mutation, and it is now in the 4th and 5th, but the 5th can have IVF and take it out of the family tree because we know exactly where the mutation is in our DNA.

@SW-User Thanks. Pretty simple really. Stab 2 is complete

@FlowersNButterflies Exactly. Sometimes is looks like sh1t

@carpediem Too often.

@SW-User We are SO not superior. Animals are waaay more civilized than humans

@fernie2 I totally agree.

@SW-User Dentists working in your face must wear a mask.

@undetermined I wonder about that also. When I go for my second shot on Friday I still have to wear my mask afterwards. I don’t think anybody knows anything for sure right now.

maybe because they dont know if it will work. but they must have good enough reason to think it will as its not free. @undetermined

@undetermined The only word you have on the 'success' of these vaccines are the governments who did minimal testing, and the word of the drug companies themselves !

Those tests were conducted on specific groups in specific places so their success rate when rolled-out on a worldwide scale may vary .

THUS it makes sense to continue using basic cleanliness and mask wearing for the time being.

I don't get the anti-mask wearing thing !
It's the simplest thing in the world to do but it's [b]THAT[/b] you seem to object to rather than the [b]sums spent on having to buy your own ![/b] as ALL folk in the UK have had to do for the past year !

@itsoeasy So people still died?

@MrBrownstoneyes 53 ,instead of 900, funnyhow oyu like g nr but have no compassion,

@itsoeasy I guess the masks don’t work.

@soar2newhighs [quote] IMO pushed by people like Fauci and politicians who are enamored with power mandating lockdowns, school closures, mask mandates[/quote]

That’s pretty funny, because vaccinating ourselves to herd immunity will let us do away with those kinds of pandemic measures. What an odd conspiracy.

@QuixoticSoul Not everyone buys into Herd immunity.

@soar2newhighs Not everyone buys into round earth either.

@FlowersNButterflies there is no right or wrong in this but both have the same possibility.

Acronyms are easily manufactured. But that one was created by World Health Organization, and therefore credible. @SW-User

@SW-User Disagree.

@cherokeepatti what is other countries, why do yanks think usa is the whole world

@itsoeasy this website is based in the USA

Read about the 1918 flu? Herd immunity was a fail. Who would tRump have blamed?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm

. @QuixoticSoul

@FlowersNButterflies Her immunity is fine, you just don’t always want to get there the hard way.

@QuixoticSoul Vaccinations save lives. Some of us are high risk for vaccination. Rock and a hard place.

@Confined Really?! Lol! I found out I have gall stones by ultrasound.

@FlowersNButterflies why did you get an ultrasound? Every person in my family has had gall stones. My mom was like you probably have gall stones, the hospital confirmed.

@Confined Pain episodes. My mother had gallstones, and died on the operating table while having it removed, but was resuscitated. She had a Near Death Experience. I have not had mine removed. Just changed my diet to no fried food, less fatty food, and when pain hits, I drink apple cider vinegar with honey (nasty stuff). I started taking daily gummies of apple cider vinegar and have not had much trouble since.

@Jimmy2016 "Because wearing masks and social distancing doesn't work...." You had me right up until that last sentence Jimmy. It's selfish and irresponsible to do neither of those things.

@fernie2 Well, I always wear a Mask in public and at work. I even wear surgical gloves when I go into stores, I think I'm the only one that's does when I'm in a store... and sometime I wear my rap around sun glasses. But that being said the SARS-CoV-2 virus can linger in the air for up to 8 minutes as some studies have suggested, so when you are walking in a store or at work, you are going to walk through air space that could contain the virus passed from someone in that air space from 8 minutes ago. This is the way I look at it.
Besides a person needs to be wearing safety glasses along with a mask... I never see that.
The only thing that is 100% safe from the virus is a self contained full face mask that has it's own air supply. It must cover the entire face. And if you are male, you can't have a beard...

@fernie2 It’s not

@SW-User he’s so running that state on China buck$.
Hate to be the guy who has to take over.
Prolly already groomed and selected.. bizz as usual.

@Gangstress you watch. Any long weekend. Or big event . You’ll get surprises cases pop up. And due to contract tracing that case was in contact with.. blah blah blah.
Ergo. We need to lock down..

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout pissing me off 😤

@Confined Love this.

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout The Nazi said say a lie big enough and long enough people will believe it

@TopOfTheWorld So, any person who decides to not get the shot is not doing it because they are all braindead? There are reasonable arguments against getting the shot. You're talking about the insane trump supporters, not the average sane person

@fernie2 all braindead? No. The evidence so far makes a compelling case as far as I can see that vaccination cuts infection rates and the spread of the virus. I just think many people who don’t want to be vaccinated either ignore, or are unaware of, that.

@itsoeasy that goes with the assumption that get it.

@Tiredandlonely yes, were all assuming stuff,

@itsoeasy The vaccine does not prevent you from Getting covid. No vaccine ever created 100% keeps you from getting sick.

@Picklebobble2 baaaaaa, baaaaaaam, baaaaaaaa

@Confined Ahh you're a Troll !

@Confined yes, Mr. bobble is correct....you are a silly troll

@itsoeasy So, you think the only reason people don't get the shot is because they are afraid of the needle????

@JohnOinger outstanding!

@Graylight Plus having the vaxxed have a go at the unvaxxed serves the purpose of pushing uptake of the experimental unproven vaccines and perpetuating the agenda of sovereign governments that are weaponising their response to the Covid cult situation.

Prevention, is what an inoculation is for, but AstraZeneca has admitted to being only 75% effective. @zonavar68

@FlowersNButterflies remember Vax doesn't stop you getting infected.

There are many unknowns. Life is filled with unknowns. Just have to take your best guess and go with it. @zonavar68

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