How much money does America lose on illegal immigrants? I assume that's the objection. If not, what are the other reasons?

@DearAmbellina2113

That's sort of my impression. These people are putting money into the economy and as you say, at least paying sales tax.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I dont think we are disagreeing. But without a couple of thousand words I cant detail where this fits into the picture of how US society could be better. Managing the border through stopping illegal employment. Managing the drug business and crime through registration and legalisation and treating it as a health issue USING the pharmaceutical industry to manage supply and quality solvesw the criminal behaviour issues, and redistributed money to local people in poorer countries (including Afghanistan.) I get that there is a lot of detail to be worked out. But the way things are currently done seems deliberately counterproductive and inefficient.😷

@whowasthatmaskedman I think the key flaw in your reasoning here is the assumption that any of the people involved care about the welfare of the American people and not power for power's sake.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I certainly agree those in power dont care at all. The disappointing fact is they dont care about thier own future either..😷

@Northwest And there is your problem. The ignorant who believe what their role models tell them to distract them and create an enemy to distrust and fear where none exists. No wonder everyone feels the need for a gun.😷

@whowasthatmaskedman You'd think people would learn from history.

@Northwest You would.. Sadly people evolve more slowly than viruses.😷

@Pikachu As i was saying to somebody earlier. If illegal immigration was really a worry you'd have sorted the border wall issue a hundred years ago !

Those same hateful anti-people in Congress or Senate are exactly the same people who rely on those same illegals to pick their fruit; fix their roads; fix the railroads; sweep their streets......

@Picklebobble2

Yeah i mean, if it was a real threat then it would be treated like a real threat and not only brought up during election season to pander to xenophobes.

@Pikachu ALL of which brings America right back to the race issue propagated by politicians when they want to instill a 'cause' to the country's ills while at the same time taking no responsibility for 245 years of flawed policy decisions !

@DownTheStreet

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@Pikachu for example most “conservatives” I know are fine with the idea of granting “illegals” a path to citizenship, same conditions as legal immigrants, eg, no felonies etc - at the same time as ensuring that doesn’t create a free for all at the border. No country in the world let’s anyone who wants to wander in and stay.

@DownTheStreet [quote] for example most “conservatives” I know are fine with the idea of granting “illegals” a path to citizenship, [/quote] yes, I’m not a conservative but these are my thoughts. This is how I see it.
https://similarworlds.com/33-Experiences/3691034-But-why-cant-Mexico-just-get-their-shit-together

@canusernamebemyusername

Well that's no small part of it. But i assume that people have more logical reasons for it.
Or at least rationalizations.

@SW-User

lol do it up.

@Pikachu