Why are Trump supporters especially receptive to conspiracy theories ?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities” - Voltaire.
56-60, M
Top | Newest First | Oldest First
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
Sorry for the long response, but a question like this deserves a deep dive into the phenomena.
These arguments typically gets framed as intellectual arguments, one of knowledge vs. ignorance, but I think that's only nominally true. A more fundamental reason, I believe, is the way these people's brains are wired.
There's a good amount of evidence, although the research is far from complete, that liberals and conservatives have neurological differences that alter the way they process information. In this case, conservative brains tend to have larger amygdalas than liberal or independent brains.
The amygdala is largely responsible for threat-assessment and deals with emotions like fear, anxiety, anger, and paranoia. It's no coincidence that a vast majority of conspiracy theories are rooted in these emotions, but it also sheds light on the way Trump approached politics.
We saw a lot of fear-mongering from Trump when he proposed things like extreme vetting of terrorist Muslims, building a wall to keep out Mexican drug-dealers and predators, there was the MS-13 caravans we had to worry about, the threat of China taking over America, the rise of socialism and radical leftism trying to destroy the country, etc. He preyed on and promoted these fears to an audience that was neurologically receptive to that kind of thinking.
Another important information-processing trait that is over-represented among conservatives is a low tolerance to ambiguity. What that means is that conservative-leaning people tend to prefer things in black-and-white simplicity. Nuance is something that is deemed unnecessary or even subversive.
You can look at religiosity and how conservatives are far more likely to accept that there is only one true god despite the dozens of religions out there. Or you can look at how they believe that life begins at conception, how there are only two genders, how privilege doesn't exist, how successful people worked hard, and so on and so forth. These are dogmatic positions that aren't really rooted in scientific or philosophical literature. It's an innate understanding of their world that gets regurgitated as a knee-jerk reaction to anything that involves cognitive complexity.
It's no secret that Trump took a lot of anti-scientific stances with regard to policy that embodied this mind-set. Climate, COVID, environmental deregulation, tax cuts for the wealthy, isolationist policies, etc.
But the final piece of the puzzle is the distrust of government. Given the corruption and inefficiencies present in significant sections of our legislative bodies, it's very natural for people to build resentment towards the government. But rather than approaching the matter on a case-by-case basis, the wiring of the conservative brain with it's penchant for distrust and simplification turns it into a case of the entire government being completely against the interest of the people.
Trump won a lot of support by appealing to this axiom by saying things like he was going to drain the swamp, that the media was the enemy of the people, and railing on career politicians like Hillary and Biden. Rather than taking up arms against specific trends or facets of an issue like every other politician would, he simply threw the baby out with the bathwater and condemned the entire thing.
That kind of unequivocal, blanket rejection of something we don't like isn't particular to the left or the right. A lot of people treat an entire system as if it were rotten to the core whenever they see a lack of meaningful results from it, but it is just rooted in different emotional appeals when it comes to which side of the political aisle you're arguing from.
A big part of the way these two branches intertwined has to do with the moral righteousness of good vs. evil. A lot of conservatives are devoutly religious, and people that are so ingrained in their faith tend to frame a lot of arguments along this dichotomy. People are framed as either entirely good or entirely bad, with little room for exploring the complexity in-between. It's no surprise then that a lot of conspiracy theories are narrated along this theme of good and evil.
The people resisting government influence think of themselves as righteous warriors fighting against tyranny or oppression. The government agents and agencies are thought of as controlling, conniving, and morally corrupt. Of course, the truth is never that simplistic, but in the mind of conspiracy theorists, there is no middle-ground. A lot of Trump supporters are even delusional enough to believe that he was appointed by God to cleanse the land of evil.
It's something so insane to the objective observer, but when seen through the enlarged amygdala of the angry and fearful defenders of freedom, it makes sense because it validates all of their feelings
These arguments typically gets framed as intellectual arguments, one of knowledge vs. ignorance, but I think that's only nominally true. A more fundamental reason, I believe, is the way these people's brains are wired.
There's a good amount of evidence, although the research is far from complete, that liberals and conservatives have neurological differences that alter the way they process information. In this case, conservative brains tend to have larger amygdalas than liberal or independent brains.
The amygdala is largely responsible for threat-assessment and deals with emotions like fear, anxiety, anger, and paranoia. It's no coincidence that a vast majority of conspiracy theories are rooted in these emotions, but it also sheds light on the way Trump approached politics.
We saw a lot of fear-mongering from Trump when he proposed things like extreme vetting of terrorist Muslims, building a wall to keep out Mexican drug-dealers and predators, there was the MS-13 caravans we had to worry about, the threat of China taking over America, the rise of socialism and radical leftism trying to destroy the country, etc. He preyed on and promoted these fears to an audience that was neurologically receptive to that kind of thinking.
Another important information-processing trait that is over-represented among conservatives is a low tolerance to ambiguity. What that means is that conservative-leaning people tend to prefer things in black-and-white simplicity. Nuance is something that is deemed unnecessary or even subversive.
You can look at religiosity and how conservatives are far more likely to accept that there is only one true god despite the dozens of religions out there. Or you can look at how they believe that life begins at conception, how there are only two genders, how privilege doesn't exist, how successful people worked hard, and so on and so forth. These are dogmatic positions that aren't really rooted in scientific or philosophical literature. It's an innate understanding of their world that gets regurgitated as a knee-jerk reaction to anything that involves cognitive complexity.
It's no secret that Trump took a lot of anti-scientific stances with regard to policy that embodied this mind-set. Climate, COVID, environmental deregulation, tax cuts for the wealthy, isolationist policies, etc.
But the final piece of the puzzle is the distrust of government. Given the corruption and inefficiencies present in significant sections of our legislative bodies, it's very natural for people to build resentment towards the government. But rather than approaching the matter on a case-by-case basis, the wiring of the conservative brain with it's penchant for distrust and simplification turns it into a case of the entire government being completely against the interest of the people.
Trump won a lot of support by appealing to this axiom by saying things like he was going to drain the swamp, that the media was the enemy of the people, and railing on career politicians like Hillary and Biden. Rather than taking up arms against specific trends or facets of an issue like every other politician would, he simply threw the baby out with the bathwater and condemned the entire thing.
That kind of unequivocal, blanket rejection of something we don't like isn't particular to the left or the right. A lot of people treat an entire system as if it were rotten to the core whenever they see a lack of meaningful results from it, but it is just rooted in different emotional appeals when it comes to which side of the political aisle you're arguing from.
A big part of the way these two branches intertwined has to do with the moral righteousness of good vs. evil. A lot of conservatives are devoutly religious, and people that are so ingrained in their faith tend to frame a lot of arguments along this dichotomy. People are framed as either entirely good or entirely bad, with little room for exploring the complexity in-between. It's no surprise then that a lot of conspiracy theories are narrated along this theme of good and evil.
The people resisting government influence think of themselves as righteous warriors fighting against tyranny or oppression. The government agents and agencies are thought of as controlling, conniving, and morally corrupt. Of course, the truth is never that simplistic, but in the mind of conspiracy theorists, there is no middle-ground. A lot of Trump supporters are even delusional enough to believe that he was appointed by God to cleanse the land of evil.
It's something so insane to the objective observer, but when seen through the enlarged amygdala of the angry and fearful defenders of freedom, it makes sense because it validates all of their feelings
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@TinyViolins Thanks for the considered reply. I think what makes the whole thing even more toxic (and what contributed to the violence at the Capitol) is when the white nationalists and the christian evangelicals are thrown together and inflamed in the way that they have been. Religious certainty and racial supremacy is a heady mix.
This message was deleted by the author of the main post.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@RodionRomanovitch These are definitely two groups that struggle with superiority complexes, and that can easily breed the sense of entitlement that allowed people to believe they could take over the government. But I don't think it's fair to single out these two groups as the primary reasons for the violence at the capitol.
It's a complicated matter that to me really highlights the dynamics of a mob mentality. A lot of people are highly suggestible, so they become susceptible to deindividualize when part of a crowd. If there are explicit feelings of anger and victimization, which Trump and his vocal supporters that day in Washington helped to stoke, these types of people will soak up that message like a sponge and act on the pure emotion of the mob.
It's not even a premeditated decision in most cases, although there were definitely more than a few which had planned out acts of violence. A lot of the people in that building that day aren't wicked or violent or terrorists as they're being labeled. They're what is known in the political sphere as 'useful idiots'. People that are easily manipulable because they seek conformity and are motivated by idealism rather than principles.
You can throw morally-loaded propaganda their way and it will be treated as gospel because it's rewarding to think of yourself as a part of a righteous movement. White supremacists almost never call themselves white supremacists. They frame their positions in terms of protecting their race and preventing "white genocide". Christian Evangelicals believe that they are preserving the sanctity of marriage and saving babies. It's a type of mental gymnastics people do to make their beliefs consistent with the idea that they are fundamentally good people.
I don't want to demonize either of these groups because, while problematic, it doesn't address the elephant. People are becoming radicalized in large part because they don't trust other people; and the more we attack and ostracize them, the less likely they are to want to trust anyone else.
I think a big reason why Donald Trump became President in the first place is in large part thanks to rhetoric of the left that condescended to them, sought to silence their views, and refused to engage with them in good faith. When a politician comes along that acts as a giant middle finger to those that wronged them, they're going to invest a lot of faith and loyalty to a person like that. It's why Trump can continuously peddle blatant lies and use these people for his own benefit, because at the very least he makes them feel heard
It's a complicated matter that to me really highlights the dynamics of a mob mentality. A lot of people are highly suggestible, so they become susceptible to deindividualize when part of a crowd. If there are explicit feelings of anger and victimization, which Trump and his vocal supporters that day in Washington helped to stoke, these types of people will soak up that message like a sponge and act on the pure emotion of the mob.
It's not even a premeditated decision in most cases, although there were definitely more than a few which had planned out acts of violence. A lot of the people in that building that day aren't wicked or violent or terrorists as they're being labeled. They're what is known in the political sphere as 'useful idiots'. People that are easily manipulable because they seek conformity and are motivated by idealism rather than principles.
You can throw morally-loaded propaganda their way and it will be treated as gospel because it's rewarding to think of yourself as a part of a righteous movement. White supremacists almost never call themselves white supremacists. They frame their positions in terms of protecting their race and preventing "white genocide". Christian Evangelicals believe that they are preserving the sanctity of marriage and saving babies. It's a type of mental gymnastics people do to make their beliefs consistent with the idea that they are fundamentally good people.
I don't want to demonize either of these groups because, while problematic, it doesn't address the elephant. People are becoming radicalized in large part because they don't trust other people; and the more we attack and ostracize them, the less likely they are to want to trust anyone else.
I think a big reason why Donald Trump became President in the first place is in large part thanks to rhetoric of the left that condescended to them, sought to silence their views, and refused to engage with them in good faith. When a politician comes along that acts as a giant middle finger to those that wronged them, they're going to invest a lot of faith and loyalty to a person like that. It's why Trump can continuously peddle blatant lies and use these people for his own benefit, because at the very least he makes them feel heard
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Conspiracy theories do exist on the left (911) and centre (russiagate) too. Also the pre trumpian right bought the line if weapons of mass destruction.
However, conspiracy theories are more prominant on the nationalist right than ever before, not just in america.
Partly its the internet providing the tools to make it posdible combined with the decline in trust of institutions. Post-modernism and narrative over evudedence and theory mean more people are susceptible to this kind of thing now.
Neo liberal ideology used tohave popular mass support to mobilise people to vote for right-wing parties but it hasnt provided for lqrge sections of the population. Few people believe the Reagan/Thatcher promise trickle down economics and economic liberalisation empowering everyone.
So the right needs a new story. It needs to appear anti-establishment and blame ppwerful interests for problems so it uses paranoia and resentment as motivational forces.
The right-wing base cant become leftists and have a theoretical marxist class analysis to show why their life sucks so they lean in conspiracies about dark forces and bad groups of people manipulating things against their interests.
However, conspiracy theories are more prominant on the nationalist right than ever before, not just in america.
Partly its the internet providing the tools to make it posdible combined with the decline in trust of institutions. Post-modernism and narrative over evudedence and theory mean more people are susceptible to this kind of thing now.
Neo liberal ideology used tohave popular mass support to mobilise people to vote for right-wing parties but it hasnt provided for lqrge sections of the population. Few people believe the Reagan/Thatcher promise trickle down economics and economic liberalisation empowering everyone.
So the right needs a new story. It needs to appear anti-establishment and blame ppwerful interests for problems so it uses paranoia and resentment as motivational forces.
The right-wing base cant become leftists and have a theoretical marxist class analysis to show why their life sucks so they lean in conspiracies about dark forces and bad groups of people manipulating things against their interests.
Viper · M
I read a pretty good article on this, it started years ago, when conservatives started laying the foundation of the media being liberal biased and hating conservative.
I forget the group that started it, but one of the main guys that started it, now regrets it.
Their point was to prove how the media points more liberal than conservative...
But what it has become is that a large number of conservatives won't believe any reported facts until it agrees with their preconceived viewpoints. So they're just getting buried further and further into conspiracy.
I forget the group that started it, but one of the main guys that started it, now regrets it.
Their point was to prove how the media points more liberal than conservative...
But what it has become is that a large number of conservatives won't believe any reported facts until it agrees with their preconceived viewpoints. So they're just getting buried further and further into conspiracy.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Viper Can you remember where you read it ?
Viper · M
@RodionRomanovitch No, I won't be able to remember where I read it.
I was trying to think what company that first anti-media group was, but it's slipping my mind until I heard it again, but the guy had brothers invovled as well.
I was trying to think what company that first anti-media group was, but it's slipping my mind until I heard it again, but the guy had brothers invovled as well.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch I think that at the moment they are somewhat uncomfortable with the situation, since the crazy became difficult to control.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@QuixoticSoul We'll know more today when we see what McCarthy decides to do with that crackpot.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch
[quote]You think the GOP are now openly trading on their gullibility ?[/quote]
Most political parties [i](and activists in general)[/i] catch voites by doing so. Banking on ignorance is kinda what you have to do if you want to catch votes. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how you do it, as long as you get in power. The issue is what @QuixoticSoul says, if you bank on delusions that are so far out there that they can turn nasty, if you polarise to much, ... well, you might not get the spirit back into the bottle and it might consume you whole.
[quote]You think the GOP are now openly trading on their gullibility ?[/quote]
Most political parties [i](and activists in general)[/i] catch voites by doing so. Banking on ignorance is kinda what you have to do if you want to catch votes. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how you do it, as long as you get in power. The issue is what @QuixoticSoul says, if you bank on delusions that are so far out there that they can turn nasty, if you polarise to much, ... well, you might not get the spirit back into the bottle and it might consume you whole.
Natasha9696 · 26-30, F
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@sunsporter1649 Good ole spoorty, can always be counted on to copy and paste stupid shit, was it getting too close to dinner time at the senile delusion ward?
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
A better question might be why are people receptive to conspiracy theories supporters of Trump.
The basic conspiracy theorist thinks like this, as I understand it — I want to believe something, but there's no evidence to support it, therefore, someone must be suppressing that evidence, and if they can do that, what else can they do. Trump tapped into what a group of people wanted to believe — that they are an oppressed majority whose rights are at risk from outside forces controlling the world. He offered confirmation that what they wanted to believe is true actually is true. Anything that contradicts what they want to believe is just lies and fraud committed by The Powers That Be and can be rejected out of hand. In fact, the more The Powers That Be try to debunk and disprove their pet conspiracy theory, the more this confirms it for them — "They don't want us to know the truth! Wake up, sheeple!"
Or something like that.
The basic conspiracy theorist thinks like this, as I understand it — I want to believe something, but there's no evidence to support it, therefore, someone must be suppressing that evidence, and if they can do that, what else can they do. Trump tapped into what a group of people wanted to believe — that they are an oppressed majority whose rights are at risk from outside forces controlling the world. He offered confirmation that what they wanted to believe is true actually is true. Anything that contradicts what they want to believe is just lies and fraud committed by The Powers That Be and can be rejected out of hand. In fact, the more The Powers That Be try to debunk and disprove their pet conspiracy theory, the more this confirms it for them — "They don't want us to know the truth! Wake up, sheeple!"
Or something like that.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@DunningKruger I think you just about nailed it there. That certainly chimes with what I've been reading.
There's a very good piece on the subject in today's NYT ; https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/opinion/qanon-conspiracy-theories.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
.... the coda to which is truly eye-watering :
"McConnell has a history of bending with the wind, accommodating the extremists in his party, including Trump and Trump’s allies, and he voted in support of the claim that Trump’s second impeachment trial is unconstitutional. If the conspiracy wing of the Republican Party becomes strong enough to routinely mount winning primary challenges to mainstream incumbents, McConnell may well abandon his critique and accept a party moving steadily closer to something many Americans (though not all) could never have imagined: the systematic exploitation of voters gullible or pathological enough to sign on to preposterous conspiracy theories in order to engineer the installation in Washington of an ultraright, ethnonationalist crypto-fascist white supremacist political regime.
The problem of keeping the extremist fringe at arm’s length has plagued the Republican Party for decades — dating back to Joseph McCarthy and the John Birch Society — but nothing in recent American history has reached the crazed intensity of Donald Trump’s perseverating, mendacious insistence that he won a second term in November. That he is not alone — that millions continue to believe in his delusions — is terrifying."
There's a very good piece on the subject in today's NYT ; https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/opinion/qanon-conspiracy-theories.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
.... the coda to which is truly eye-watering :
"McConnell has a history of bending with the wind, accommodating the extremists in his party, including Trump and Trump’s allies, and he voted in support of the claim that Trump’s second impeachment trial is unconstitutional. If the conspiracy wing of the Republican Party becomes strong enough to routinely mount winning primary challenges to mainstream incumbents, McConnell may well abandon his critique and accept a party moving steadily closer to something many Americans (though not all) could never have imagined: the systematic exploitation of voters gullible or pathological enough to sign on to preposterous conspiracy theories in order to engineer the installation in Washington of an ultraright, ethnonationalist crypto-fascist white supremacist political regime.
The problem of keeping the extremist fringe at arm’s length has plagued the Republican Party for decades — dating back to Joseph McCarthy and the John Birch Society — but nothing in recent American history has reached the crazed intensity of Donald Trump’s perseverating, mendacious insistence that he won a second term in November. That he is not alone — that millions continue to believe in his delusions — is terrifying."
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
Since the dawn of “reality television”, there is a large portion of the population that is confused about actual reality.
It’s ironic that his name was really made by “The Apprentice” where people around the world got a distorted view of corporate life in NYC. His supporters are concentrated in rural communities.
They put this dude on a pedestal, and yet fail to grasp that the only thing he has been able to do is peddle the brand his father created.
The conspiracy theory concentration started with the Nixon administration where he was frustrated by how the Democrats controlled the message because there was such a tight relationship with the media.
It’s complicated.
To assume all these people are dumb is incorrect. Are they willfully misinformed? Sure. But not dumb.
It’s ironic that his name was really made by “The Apprentice” where people around the world got a distorted view of corporate life in NYC. His supporters are concentrated in rural communities.
They put this dude on a pedestal, and yet fail to grasp that the only thing he has been able to do is peddle the brand his father created.
The conspiracy theory concentration started with the Nixon administration where he was frustrated by how the Democrats controlled the message because there was such a tight relationship with the media.
It’s complicated.
To assume all these people are dumb is incorrect. Are they willfully misinformed? Sure. But not dumb.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch echo chambers can make people seem nuts.
But that doesn’t necessarily mean they are.
It’s a big cult.
But that doesn’t necessarily mean they are.
It’s a big cult.
ExperienceDLT · M
ExperienceDLT · M
@sunsporter1649 anyway arguing with you is getting boring besides momma told me not to pick on old people I just don't listen so well
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Like those chicom soldiers marching around your country?
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Still obsessed with that white supremacist conspiracy theory cooked up by a felon. That explains alot about you.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@sunsporter1649 I never block anyone , but in your case it might just be worth it not to have to read [b]the same fucking thing[/b] in every thread you jump on.
Quack Quack
Quack Quack
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@RodionRomanovitch Like the orange man bad bullschiff I get from you on every fucking thread?
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@sunsporter1649 Quaaaaack
SW-User
If you asked them, they'd tell you that these are actual facts, not conspiracy theories. I think a better question might be, why do they believe the majority of Trump's claims which have been proven to have no factual basis?
Whatever the reason, it's important to note that Trump really does "love the poorly educated."
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0]
Whatever the reason, it's important to note that Trump really does "love the poorly educated."
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0]
istillhaveanameitsrick · 56-60, M
Not going to argue with you except to say that i remember a lot of liberals spouting the conspiracy theory that Bush not only knew about the 9-11 attacks but actually planned them to give him an excuse to go after Hussein. So the truth is that everyone is susceptible to such idiocy it just depends upon which side of the fence you are on as to whether you notice it or not.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Still clutching at the conspiracies and delusions of a racist felon I see.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@sunsporter1649 the Commies are coming the Commies are coming! OMG, better go and run and hide under your bed with your gun! 🤡
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@RodionRomanovitch Sure little buddy. I hit the nail on the head, didn't I?
You got a little bit of a big boy crush on the ol' Munster? 😆
I'm sorry, I'll try to give you the attention you crave. So many idiot trolls on here, I guess you just didn't make much of an impression. 🤷♂️
Try not to pout.
You got a little bit of a big boy crush on the ol' Munster? 😆
I'm sorry, I'll try to give you the attention you crave. So many idiot trolls on here, I guess you just didn't make much of an impression. 🤷♂️
Try not to pout.
jimjim1969 · M
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
NeuroticByNature · 41-45, F
I dont know. Why do the democrats want to take our guns and tax us to death?
SW-User
@NeuroticByNature I'd be delighted :) I'm sure we could talk about all kinds of things as well as politics :) Just a pity we can't really meet up with anyone atm. :(
NeuroticByNature · 41-45, F
@SW-User maybe if we all behave and wash our hands we can get rid of this covid so we can go outside and play..
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@NeuroticByNature It's interesting that you think the Republicans don't want to steal your money. They do. They just don't want government to have it. They want their corporate interests to have it.
And trust me, corporations are FAR more effective at finding ways to get money out of you than the government.
Donnie pardoned quite a few people who deserved to be pardoned. But he also pardoned white collar criminals who have a history of taking money from the little guy.
His daughter and son-in-law have been sued dozens of times for using the law to steal money from working class folks using slumlord techniques.
The Republicans are (generally) against raising the minimum wage and labor unions, just two examples where they weaken the ability of the working class to make a decent wage.
All the puff and bluster about tax cuts is a red-herring technique. The Republicans love tax shelters for the rich, which quite literally directs more money to them and therefore less money to you.
If you are against unfair taxation, you'll find a lot of friends on that topic that are both Republican and Democrat. But if you think a selfish faux-Republican is better for you, you are kidding yourself.
What you posted here makes all the rich Republicans and the lobbyists that pay their actual salaries happy that you buy into their messaging.
And trust me, corporations are FAR more effective at finding ways to get money out of you than the government.
Donnie pardoned quite a few people who deserved to be pardoned. But he also pardoned white collar criminals who have a history of taking money from the little guy.
His daughter and son-in-law have been sued dozens of times for using the law to steal money from working class folks using slumlord techniques.
The Republicans are (generally) against raising the minimum wage and labor unions, just two examples where they weaken the ability of the working class to make a decent wage.
All the puff and bluster about tax cuts is a red-herring technique. The Republicans love tax shelters for the rich, which quite literally directs more money to them and therefore less money to you.
If you are against unfair taxation, you'll find a lot of friends on that topic that are both Republican and Democrat. But if you think a selfish faux-Republican is better for you, you are kidding yourself.
What you posted here makes all the rich Republicans and the lobbyists that pay their actual salaries happy that you buy into their messaging.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You really mustn't use such big words, it confooses them! 🥴
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Keepitsimple Care to elaborate ?
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
Not really. I switched parties when they planted that bimbo during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing. From there I just lost all respect for them all. @RodionRomanovitch
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
@Keepitsimple Don’t make me fire up my Jewish space laser!
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Tres13 It's not about Trump , it's about idiots like you.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
You have TDS ur fucked@RodionRomanovitch
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Tres13 You have the vocabulary of a five year old.
ExperienceDLT · M
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Found those 33,000 cupcake recipes and yoga lessons yet?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 When will we see evidence of "Obamagate?" When will Mexico pay for "the wall?" When will the nuclear threat from North Korea be over? When will the suburbs be eliminated? When will China own the USA? When will we see the Baby-trump Health Care Plan? When will we see the proof of Dominion Voter Fraud? When will we see a sign of intelligence instead of bitterness from "the base?"
ExperienceDLT · M
@sunsporter1649 is that a self portrait of you?