Global warming effects are different wherever you go.. But in general that can be described of a more extreme version of what you have. Another little myth that has recently been shot in the foot is that higher CO2 and higher rainfall equals more crops.. Its true up to a point, but the results on rice show the crop still only has the same overall nutrient content. Its just slightly greater tonnage and lower per ton. @SW-User
@wetncthru They will probably monitor water meters. They plan to fine abusers up to $1000.00, and they plan to tax $12.00 a year per person for water, and business water fines and taxes will be a lot higher.
When California has 20 million people in it there was enough water most of the time. Now that it has 40 million they have a issue. There's been nothing done about the water issue, nothing. San Diego has a desalination unit to water lawns and golf courses. It cost 1 billion. But yet Jerry would rather spend 3 billion on his train to nowhere rather than do something about the water.
WATER IN CALIFORNIA: WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN; First there will be ordinances introduced banning certain outdoor water use, using mains water. Some people will install tanks to receive private water trucks and put up signs to inform others they are not breaking the law by watering a lawn or filling a pool. This will be reinforced by increasing charges for metered water . And at the same time desalination plants will be built to increase the water supply. People will adapt , car washes will thrive and recycle their own water and a market balance point will be reached where people will conserve to save money and pay for what they are will to use, either through carted water, or drilling a bore. This is not the first place this has happened.. Nor will it be the last. Fresh water is in short supply the world over. This is just the first time Americans have noticed it.
What the good Gentleman means is that so far they have not needed the desal plant enough to warrant its cost, due to some good rainfall years.. That wont last.@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
My grandparents in their early lives lived off the grid and ran a 20,000 acre farm. City water, gas, electricity and sewer eventually came to them, but they still retained huge outdoor cisterns for most of their water needs. Water from the roof drained into the cisterns and was used for everything but drinking and cooking water, and the upstairs bathroom. To render an estimate, the cisterns probably held 25,000 to 50,000 gallons.
Long droughts would run them low and they knew when to start being extra conservative. They kept an out-house functional for when things got seriously desperate.
But they already knew how to be self sufficient and city water was a luxury. For us city slickers already living on 100 to 200+ gallons a day, it's gonna be a bit of a transition.
@4meAndyou Haaa ... yes. I think it's where that "don't throw the baby away with the bath water" originated.
I remember the old wringer washing machines. Clothes washing and drying were outdoor activities and as I recall, the soap of choice for practically everything was octagon
It will be interesting to see how California handles this. The heartlands has it's own history with the dust-bowl years and all my in-the-know friends keep warning about the depleting aquifers with doomsday intensity.
Domestic rain water collection tanks are part of new housing developments where I am, for all out door uses. The tanks are not huge. But it makes a lot of difference.@Heartlander
@whowasthatmaskedman Great. We have one. Or had one. We're presently reworking for a larger and more sophisticated one. The 55 gallon tank we had was fed by just a small part of the roof and it filled up within minutes.
Quit a few cities also have started adding them to help water the midtown greenery. Millions of gallons run off from elevated parking lots that can easily be tanked and drip-fed to mid-city greenery.
@jackson55 Exactly. With numerous cities in bankruptcy or on the verge of it, you wonder how long it will take the special people to realize it's almost just them and illegal aliens.
Agree , but I’m sure it is not being done In a evil way, water crisis has always been a problem on that side .... either pay the fine that comes with over consumption or move to a place like Nyc.... here was have an amazing water system & none of our reserves have ever needed to come in effect ..
I don't know?🤔I'm glad I left California when I did. They are pouring into Oregon like you wouldn't believe!😰Years ago there was a song about the earth quakes and it being destroyed, people were actually waiting for that to happen. There has been a water shortage there off and on since the 70's. Oh, I found that song for ya!💞🎶[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ZXco32IRU]
@questionWeaver I checked the washing machine stats...it appears that a washing machine uses 14 gallons. I suppose it depends on the size of the washing machine and the wash setting you use. I think that they will have to develop shower heads with shut offs, so that people can wet their body, soap, and rinse without the water running the entire time.
@4meAndyou That’s a lot of expense, two meters, a holding tank for gray water, new plumbing, anything else? At any rate, 55 gallons/person is a lot of water. I’m sure that isn’t asking too much.
@SimplyTracie I was just mentioning to a friend of mine, it is 7 gallons every time you flush the toilet. An 8 minute shower uses almost 17 gallons, one load of laundry uses 14 gallons and you still have to wash dishes, brush your teeth, wash your hands, have water for cooking, and water to drink....and I haven't figured out how much water that would use.
@4meAndyou If think a family of four using 220 gal/day is plenty enough for your daily needs. And you can still wash your car and water your lawn without impacting that number.
I use more water to shower so someone will have to cut back some. 😝
@kate21 They're also trying to downplay the problem so it doesn't disrupt tourism. They need extra water being consumed by people that don't know any better.
@TheSirfurryanimalWales Hi Furry! Nice to see you again! Actually, I would really have to watch myself if I only had 55 gallons a day. One load of wash uses 14 gallons and you would use 17-18 gallons of water for an 8 minute shower. (2 gallons of water are used every minute in the shower). One flush of the toilet can use up to 7 gallons of water and two bricks in the cistern only saves one gallon. If I flush the toilet three times a day, I am already up to 50 gallons (with bricks), and I still have to drink, wash my hands, and have water for cooking and washing dishes.
@4meAndyou A couple years ago there was a report about people running out of water and the story was that the state was diverting it to some sanctuary area for....it wasn't a izard, I believe it was a bird. And since birds can't fly.......lol
That’s a lot of water for one individual per day ! , if you wash up or use the dishwasher for a family it’s the same amount , the same with laundry surely ?
On the other side of the coin, that's what happens when your state grows a bunch of cities and farms in a desert and drains it's very limited water sources overpopulating a desert that doesn't have enough water to support the population.
@QuixoticSoul It's a big part of it, yet it is far from an anemic part of the state economy. Nor is the population of say LA sustainable on it's own on terms of water. But yeah, the misguided agricultural practices are a huge part of it. Considering it is a big part of Southern California, it IS unsustainable. Sustainable by definition meaning sustaining the current condition.
@MethDozer Agriculture uses 80% of our available water, and generates about 2% of the gdp. And yeah, you can futz around a bit with those numbers, but still - things are way the fuck out of balance.
