If Trump isn't guilty of anything and there is no collusion as he claims, then why would he need to pardon himself?

@MistyCee True... but can we continue to enable with them with hand-holding for the rest of their voting lives?

@MarkPaul They resent that hand holding, too, which is part of the problem.

@MistyCee That's true. They seem to have so much anger... perhaps some of it's justified. But, they resent hand-holding. They resent being ignored. And, they think they are accomplishing something great by buying into the lie.

@BlueMetalChick The POTUS - the mightiest man in this world. 😒

@Northwest This idea of immediate impeachment troubles me, because it assumes a lot out of Congresspeople, some of whom have already demonstrated that their loyalty is to Trump over any thing else.

I get why Rudy said it, because it makes it sound absurd that Trump would do it and face that, but keep in mind, these people don't mind and in fact seem to rejoice in changing their "stories" to fit their daily desires, and it doesn't seem to bother their "base" when they lie.

If Trump were to pardon himself, however absurd that is, the idea that a Vichy Congress might decide not to impeach him seems less absurd.

@MistyCee Although the all idea sounds just weird - but I agree with you. 🙄🤦

@Loretta78 The whole idea is absurd. There's another post out here talking about 50 years of "DOJ precedents" regarding Presidential self pardons and some wacko crap about Hillary planning on pardoning herself.

It's SW, and I get that, but this is the kind of thing, like Pizzagate or birtherism, that Trump might pick up on and actually sell people who've been conditioned to believe he's always right and anyone who disagrees with him is part of a Globalist, or democrat, or libtard, or Muslim conspiracy.

You will have to be careful with that irony.. A lot of Americans don't get it. :)🤔@Loretta78

@whowasthatmaskedman I've seen it already. I am glad that at least YOU got my irony! 😂😂

@SW-User It's really a moot point but for argument's sake the constitution does not say one way or the other but doj has for 50+ years decided a president could pardon himself. That's been the policy. And this was discussed in Oct 2016 with regard to hitlery and the left wing consensus the was that she could pardon herself. Isn't it nice that someone in the media dragged all that out of the dust bin and reminded us about that.

@SW-User Says who? Does the constitution explicitly say the potus can't pardon himself? If it did I doubt there'd be so much debate over it right now. I did read this earlier. I'm sure this would piss a lot of people off if it happened.

[quote] A different approach to the pardoning problem could be taken under Section 3 of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment. If the President declared that he was temporarily unable to perform the duties of his office, the Vice President would become Acting President and as such he could pardon the President. Thereafter the President could either resign or resume the duties of his office.” [/quote]

@BlueMetalChick publicly and brazenly crossing lines of impeachment believing one operates with political and constitutional impunity (and clearly not understanding the difference) is bad for business, a shot will be fired at some point.