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If Trump isn't guilty of anything and there is no collusion as he claims, then why would he need to pardon himself?

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Northwest · M
Trump believes he's above the law. He said it during the campaign, and he confirmed it today. People should take his word for it. Question: is this what his supporters expected when they voted for him? I recall the Trumpeters on SW screaming about how we're going to be distracted 24/7 with trials and investigations, if Hillary won.
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@Northwest You said Trump BELIEVES that he is above the law.

But isn't it a FACT that he is above the law? :-?

I mean he is the mightiest man in this world, he can do whatever he wants. He could make illegal deal with Russians or even shut down people in the road and pardon himself. 🤦

So isn't it a FACT that the POTUS is above the law?
Northwest · M
@Loretta78 Unfortunately, he might be. This has never been tested legally in the US. Nixon resigned before we can find out.
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@Northwest To find it out? Does it mean nobody knows for sure if a POTUS/a criminal can pardon himself? 😖
Northwest · M
@Loretta78 No one really knows. Nixon's attorneys, told him that he may not be able to pardon himself, so he resigned. More recent legal opinions, indicate that he may be able to pardon himself, but if this happens, he will be immediately impeached.
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@Northwest I HOPE so - because I have the feeling that his party holds to him, no matter what he is doing... 🙄
@Northwest This idea of immediate impeachment troubles me, because it assumes a lot out of Congresspeople, some of whom have already demonstrated that their loyalty is to Trump over any thing else.

I get why Rudy said it, because it makes it sound absurd that Trump would do it and face that, but keep in mind, these people don't mind and in fact seem to rejoice in changing their "stories" to fit their daily desires, and it doesn't seem to bother their "base" when they lie.

If Trump were to pardon himself, however absurd that is, the idea that a Vichy Congress might decide not to impeach him seems less absurd.
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@MistyCee Although the all idea sounds just weird - but I agree with you. 🙄🤦
@Loretta78 The whole idea is absurd. There's another post out here talking about 50 years of "DOJ precedents" regarding Presidential self pardons and some wacko crap about Hillary planning on pardoning herself.

It's SW, and I get that, but this is the kind of thing, like Pizzagate or birtherism, that Trump might pick up on and actually sell people who've been conditioned to believe he's always right and anyone who disagrees with him is part of a Globalist, or democrat, or libtard, or Muslim conspiracy.