They should bring back pubs with the no women and children policy. Like there were in Dad’s day.

@autumngirl27 "Etc." now including staff costs increased by higher employment taxes, hitting all businesses.

@autumngirl27 In Mexico Women get to drink for free because they are smart enough to know if they get ladies inside, the men will come in too.

@SUPERVlXEN Where would the fun in that be?

@ArishMell In Canada, they used to have a men only side and a men and escorts on the other side of some "taverns" both sides had a separate entrance and they were divided by a wall.

@HootyTheNightOwl I actually agree 100%; but, what happens when they start to fuss or cry? Will that parent get up and take the child out of the restaurant so the meals of the other patrons aren’t disturbed?

If it’s a $50-$100 dinner for two, I really don’t care. When you get up to the $200-$350 range, I do care. At that level I’m paying for peace and excellent food without the potential din of children that are too young to be responsible for their manners.

@Adogslife That is literally what I meant in my comment. If the child is disturbing the peace of other patrons, then the child should be removed until the situation calms down.

The problem is that you can't teach children that the good manners you taught them at home also apply here if you just want to blanket ban all children because they might disturb other patrons.

Not all parents are ignorant of their children - and your approach would have denied me and my siblings of happy birthday meals and the memories associated with them now that my mother is dead... on the basis that we "might" disturb other patrons. We weren't disruptive to others because we would have been removed if we were.

My mother actually invited her boyfriend's parents to join us on a holiday and they didn't want to join us because she had three children... they were elderly and didn't want the noise and bustle of children. She talked them into giving it a go... fast forward to the end of the holiday - and they didn't want to go home.

@HootyTheNightOwl I wouldn’t disagree. It’s the parents’ job to know their children. If they’ve taught their children to act responsibly, there’d be no reason to exclude them.

Entitlement, however, has changed a lot over the past few decades. I have no recourse if my meal is ruined by the parents of unruly children. It’s unfair to penalize the wait staff or the restaurant for their actions, though I suppose I could get up and leave mid-meal…

@CrazyMusicLover Sausage festivals 😬

@CrazyMusicLover You've clearly never met the local fisherwomen, they'll do all of the above minus the scratch

@Castenmas But let's just exclude all those people we don't like, or feel comfortable being around, because they're not like us; they're different.

@Pambie I like my idea better.

@Castenmas A pub good but very simple food, no pool tables and no music would be even better!

I know one and used to drink there regularly. (Not quite games-free. It has a shoveha'penny board.)

I know and occasionally enjoy another that has the music but no pool, and a two course meal would be a packet of crisps followed by a Mars Bar. (It does have a dart-board.)

@HootyTheNightOwl Magic Mike Cafes 😳

@HotPizza71 If that floats your boat, by all means.

@Castenmas How much do you actually know about this???

@HotPizza71 Only if you lock the door behind you

@MsSwan I said no women. That includes lesbians.

@JamesBugman No trannies allowed.

@pentagrammom Nobody is asking you to obey technology.

I’m asking you to please specifically get to your point.

@pentagrammom Fine. The conversation is over.

You do not have the wit to string together a complete and meaningful sentence, and therefore you of no use or interest regarding my post. Goodbye.